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Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I
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On Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:59:55 UTC, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. I haven't got a 4K TV, but if I was buying, I might buy one to future proof my set up (the differential is already fairly small). OTOH at present there is precious little content for 4K. I have recently acquired a 28" 4K monitor for my PC for £440 - it's great! Incidentally 3D TV seems to have come and gone quite quickly... |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:24:27 -0000, wrote:
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:59:55 UTC, Geoff Pearson wrote: Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I People are posting 4K to youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...3E5618740295DF -- My Kindle/Mobile links page | All Kindles | http://goo.gl/ySe0d Use these for low bandwidth | All Mobiles | http://KindLink.tk/ A really crap coded website | All Devices | https://sites.google.com/site/themadge/ This information is provided without warranty of any kind |
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On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote:
I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Andy |
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On 21/12/2014 19:33, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote: I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Strictly speaking Blu-Ray (just like DVD) is a data storage medium. 25GB for a single layer disc, double that for dual layer. It can, (and I beleive will) be used to record 4k format material -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 21/12/2014 19:33, Vir Campestris wrote: On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote: I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Strictly speaking Blu-Ray (just like DVD) is a data storage medium. 25GB for a single layer disc, double that for dual layer. It can, (and I beleive will) be used to record 4k format material You will need better HDMI in the player than is currently the case, however IMO you are right. The market probably will move [slowly] this way, however for most purposes full HD is adequate - e.g. my current set up - if the screen were bigger it would subtend too big an angle at the eye and you would not be able to see it all (also regular images would appear magnified), however it would need more pixels to match hte resolution of my eye. If the sceen were smaller (or I sat further away) then you don't need even need full HD resolution (I can easily tell the difference between HD and SD on 42" at 3.5m, but not at 7.5m. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 21/12/14 18:36, madge wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:24:27 -0000, wrote: On Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:59:55 UTC, Geoff Pearson wrote: Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I People are posting 4K to youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...3E5618740295DF And there is netflix etc.... OK, I have say £500 to spend next year on a new TV. Mediocre 4K or decent HD set? 42" screen, viewing distance 4m. I suspect the sensible answer for my room is HD, but DSLR photos shown on a 4K screen could be interesting. -- Adrian C |
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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
o.uk... On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote: I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Are we going to have ultraviolet-ray for 4k? -- Max Demian |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:09:28 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 21/12/14 18:36, madge wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:24:27 -0000, wrote: On Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:59:55 UTC, Geoff Pearson wrote: Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I People are posting 4K to youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...3E5618740295DF And there is netflix etc.... OK, I have say £500 to spend next year on a new TV. Mediocre 4K or decent HD set? 42" screen, viewing distance 4m. I suspect the sensible answer for my room is HD, but DSLR photos shown on a 4K screen could be interesting. At that distance and 42" there'll be little difference. My TV is 50" HD at 3m and is about right (55 - 60 would be pushing it simply for scanning the picture). At 4m, 60" seems about right. If I may mention it, 4k and UltraHD aren't the same - apologies if you already know that. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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Yes well the 3D based on glasses is still a bit daft. Until we can see it
normally no chance in my view. I was told that some 4k tvs are great for looking at snaps on, but I am not sure about future proofing, history tells us that some part of the spec for any future system will preclude using older hardware in some way, meeaning buying it all over again. Luckily, it affects me not. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active wrote in message ... On Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:59:55 UTC, Geoff Pearson wrote: Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. I haven't got a 4K TV, but if I was buying, I might buy one to future proof my set up (the differential is already fairly small). OTOH at present there is precious little content for 4K. I have recently acquired a 28" 4K monitor for my PC for £440 - it's great! Incidentally 3D TV seems to have come and gone quite quickly... |
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In article ,
wrote: I haven't got a 4K TV, but if I was buying, I might buy one to future proof my set up (the differential is already fairly small). I don't know that the UK standards for broadcasting it, etc, have actually been finalised. So far its an 'experiment'. Given the ways they've kept moving the deckchairs since 'On Digital' days I'd suspect any 4K TV bought now to risk needing a new 'tuner' to feed it that in due time. Assuming of course, people buy into 4K as more than a display system upgrade to give nice results from HD. Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message ... "Vir Campestris" wrote in message o.uk... On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote: I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Are we going to have ultraviolet-ray for 4k? -- Max Demian Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. |
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On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. Accepted - but the point stands - what is there to watch? |
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On 22/12/2014 09:42, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , wrote: I haven't got a 4K TV, but if I was buying, I might buy one to future proof my set up (the differential is already fairly small). I don't know that the UK standards for broadcasting it, etc, have actually been finalised. So far its an 'experiment'. Given the ways they've kept moving the deckchairs since 'On Digital' days I'd suspect any 4K TV bought now to risk needing a new 'tuner' to feed it that in due time. Assuming of course, people buy into 4K as more than a display system upgrade to give nice results from HD. IMHO there's no way we'll be seeing 4k broadcasts on DTT. I doubt there will be on D-Sat either. Delivery will be a stream, or download (lasting several days from some) from t'internet I suspect -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:29:29 -0000, "Geoff Pearson"
wrote: "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. Perhaps it will go the way of Betamax - technically superior, but not enough obvious superiority to become the de facto standard. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. Accepted - but the point stands - what is there to watch? Discontent. -- ================================================== ======= UK Residents: If you feel can possibly support it please sign the following ePetition before closing time of 30/03/2015 23:59: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/71556 ================================================== ======= Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's header does not exist. Or use a contact address at: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html |
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On 22/12/2014 13:03, Java Jive wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:29:29 -0000, "Geoff Pearson" wrote: "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. Perhaps it will go the way of Betamax - technically superior, but not enough obvious superiority to become the de facto standard. It's being used in the production environment, as a means to 'overshoot' footage, so the resolution is retained for HD. For instance zooming in on action (retrospectively) sports replays notably. I suspect native 4k material will be available domestically, should anyone be sufficiently enthusiastic. As many people seem incapable of spotting the difference between SD and HD, in many cases ownership of 4k kit, will simply be 'to keep ahead of the Joneses'. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Anyone bought a 4K TV? What do you watch on it - what sources are there? I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. google 4k! Lots of stuff out there! Some info he http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26957001 Richard |
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Mark Carver schrieb:
On 22/12/2014 09:42, Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , wrote: I haven't got a 4K TV, but if I was buying, I might buy one to future proof my set up (the differential is already fairly small). I don't know that the UK standards for broadcasting it, etc, have actually been finalised. So far its an 'experiment'. Given the ways they've kept moving the deckchairs since 'On Digital' days I'd suspect any 4K TV bought now to risk needing a new 'tuner' to feed it that in due time. IMHO there's no way we'll be seeing 4k broadcasts on DTT. I doubt there will be on D-Sat either. Delivery will be a stream, or download (lasting several days from some) from t'internet I suspect Well, if you were able to receive Astra 19 degr. east, there is a UHD Demo channel to try: 11406 MHz Vert. | 22000 | DVB-S2 | 8PSK | FEC 2/3. The first live concert transmission in UHD resolution ("Linkin Park" in Berlin) was shown on 19. Nov. with max. 35 Mbit/s. It was freely received by already some Samsung UHD TV owners with 4k HEVC capability and by modern Windows7-64bit PC owners with DVB-S2-tuners and 4k-ready software decoding (MPC-HC-64 player i.e. here). Demo clips are running there 24/7 if not a closed test transmission is performed - like on 20. Dec. with "Fanta 4" rappers from Stuttgart, delivered to some testing households and 4k capable cinemas. Sky Germany is testing live soccer transmission in 4k for long and is suspected to start a regular UHD pay TV channel end of 2015... |
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Mark Carver wrote:
On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. Or even 'product'. Bill |
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On 22/12/2014 14:50, Klaus wrote:
Well, if you were able to receive Astra 19 degr. east, there is a UHD Demo channel to try: 11406 MHz Vert. | 22000 | DVB-S2 | 8PSK | FEC 2/3. The first live concert transmission in UHD resolution ("Linkin Park" in Berlin) was shown on 19. Nov. with max. 35 Mbit/s. It was freely received by already some Samsung UHD TV owners with 4k HEVC capability and by modern Windows7-64bit PC owners with DVB-S2-tuners and 4k-ready software decoding (MPC-HC-64 player i.e. here). Demo clips are running there 24/7 if not a closed test transmission is performed - like on 20. Dec. with "Fanta 4" rappers from Stuttgart, delivered to some testing households and 4k capable cinemas. I'm genuinely glad to hear that, but I don't think the UK will follow, except (as is also happening) delivery to cinemas etc Sky Germany is testing live soccer transmission in 4k for long and is suspected to start a regular UHD *pay* TV channel end of 2015... ^^^^ That's the most likely thing to happen in the UK, a pay only subscription service. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 22/12/2014 10:29, Geoff Pearson wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. Accepted - but the point stands - what is there to watch? they would make a good pc monitor as long as you get one with hdmi 2 input. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
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On 21/12/2014 19:37, Mark Carver wrote:
On 21/12/2014 19:33, Vir Campestris wrote: On 21/12/2014 15:59, Geoff Pearson wrote: I guess even Blu-ray is sub 4k definition. Blu-ray is 1920x1080 _maximum_. Strictly speaking Blu-Ray (just like DVD) is a data storage medium. 25GB for a single layer disc, double that for dual layer. It can, (and I beleive will) be used to record 4k format material This turns out not to be the case. At least, not yet - the spec isn't even finalised. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923 So while it _will_ be used to record 4k material, if it's got 4k on it right now it isn't blu-ray. Andy |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 13:14:26 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. Perhaps it will go the way of Betamax - technically superior, but not enough obvious superiority to become the de facto standard. It's being used in the production environment, as a means to 'overshoot' footage, so the resolution is retained for HD. For instance zooming in on action (retrospectively) sports replays notably. I suspect native 4k material will be available domestically, should anyone be sufficiently enthusiastic. As many people seem incapable of spotting the difference between SD and HD, in many cases ownership of 4k kit, will simply be 'to keep ahead of the Joneses'. So it won't matter if nobody can see the difference, as long as they can see the "4K" sticker on the front? Rod. |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Mark Carver wrote: On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. Or even 'product'. No, that's us. -- Max Demian |
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On 22/12/2014 21:41, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 21/12/2014 19:37, Mark Carver wrote: Strictly speaking Blu-Ray (just like DVD) is a data storage medium. 25GB for a single layer disc, double that for dual layer. It can, (and I believe will) be used to record 4k format material This turns out not to be the case. Everything I said, is the case. At least, not yet - the spec isn't even finalised. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923 So while it _will_ be used to record 4k material, Which is what I said ! if it's got 4k on it right now it isn't blu-ray. Where did I say that was the case ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 13:14:26 +0000, Mark Carver wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. Perhaps it will go the way of Betamax - technically superior, but not enough obvious superiority to become the de facto standard. It's being used in the production environment, as a means to 'overshoot' footage, so the resolution is retained for HD. For instance zooming in on action (retrospectively) sports replays notably. I suspect native 4k material will be available domestically, should anyone be sufficiently enthusiastic. As many people seem incapable of spotting the difference between SD and HD, in many cases ownership of 4k kit, will simply be 'to keep ahead of the Joneses'. So it won't matter if nobody can see the difference, as long as they can see the "4K" sticker on the front? Rod. I suspect that as 4k sales increase and HD sales diminish, 4k sets will become the only ones around. That's when the pressure will grow. That hasn't happened with 3D yet mind you. I haven't even opened my 3D specs pack since buying the TV over a year ago! |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:18:21 +0000, Alan Secker
wrote: I suspect native 4k material will be available domestically, should anyone be sufficiently enthusiastic. As many people seem incapable of spotting the difference between SD and HD, in many cases ownership of 4k kit, will simply be 'to keep ahead of the Joneses'. So it won't matter if nobody can see the difference, as long as they can see the "4K" sticker on the front? Rod. I suspect that as 4k sales increase and HD sales diminish, 4k sets will become the only ones around. That's when the pressure will grow. That hasn't happened with 3D yet mind you. I haven't even opened my 3D specs pack since buying the TV over a year ago! I might consider purchasing a bigger computer monitor if that happens. So far, progress has been backwards in this area, as my present monitor is 1920x1200, but all monitors and TVs seem to be 1920x1080 now, regardless of size. I haven't seen one anywhere with a resolution equal to the one I've got. They're all gravitating towards a slightly lower spec in the interests of everybody having the same. Rod. |
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On 24/12/14 10:42, Roderick Stewart wrote:
I might consider purchasing a bigger computer monitor if that happens. So far, progress has been backwards in this area, as my present monitor is 1920x1200, but all monitors and TVs seem to be 1920x1080 now, regardless of size. I haven't seen one anywhere with a resolution equal to the one I've got. Mine's the same resolution - Dell UltraSharp U2412M 16:10 I like it, those extra 120 pixels ... They're all gravitating towards a slightly lower spec in the interests of everybody having the same. Not so gloomy though. Amazon does shows some others. -- Adrian C |
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On 22/12/14 08:40, PeterC wrote:
I suspect the sensible answer for my room is HD, but DSLR photos shown on a 4K screen could be interesting. At that distance and 42" there'll be little difference. Agree. My TV is 50" HD at 3m and is about right (55 - 60 would be pushing it simply for scanning the picture). At 4m, 60" seems about right. Yup, after Christmas probably will be a HD purchase for the main viewing area (mainly for Eastenders in HD, yay....), and a 4K 42" one later for the computer room where I'm sat closer and can use the high resolution for IT multiple remote screen support, admiring photography and claiming it as a legitimate business expense.... Hmmm... If I may mention it, 4k and UltraHD aren't the same - apologies if you already know that. Didn't :) -- Adrian C |
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On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 10:42:25 UTC, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:18:21 +0000, Alan Secker wrote: I suspect native 4k material will be available domestically, should anyone be sufficiently enthusiastic. As many people seem incapable of spotting the difference between SD and HD, in many cases ownership of 4k kit, will simply be 'to keep ahead of the Joneses'. So it won't matter if nobody can see the difference, as long as they can see the "4K" sticker on the front? Rod. I suspect that as 4k sales increase and HD sales diminish, 4k sets will become the only ones around. That's when the pressure will grow. That hasn't happened with 3D yet mind you. I haven't even opened my 3D specs pack since buying the TV over a year ago! I might consider purchasing a bigger computer monitor if that happens. So far, progress has been backwards in this area, as my present monitor is 1920x1200, but all monitors and TVs seem to be 1920x1080 now, regardless of size. I haven't seen one anywhere with a resolution equal to the one I've got. They're all gravitating towards a slightly lower spec in the interests of everybody having the same. Rod. 1920X1080 is because it is full HD. There are some 1920X1200 (so an extra 230k Pixels). Around for some time have been 2560X1440, which can be driven at 60Hz over DVI-D (dual DVI, but in a single cable). This summer a lot of panels at 3840X2160 have appeared. These need DisplayPort (or IIRC HDMI 2) to run at 60Hz and their prices have fallen below £400 ($500 before taxes). Called 4k, although slightly [2.5%] short of 4096X2048. I have one of these side by side with a Full HD monitor at the moment and I can assure that both objectively and subjectively the 4k monitor has nearly four time the resolution of yours. |
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On 23/12/2014 07:00, Mark Carver wrote:
On 22/12/2014 21:41, Vir Campestris wrote: On 21/12/2014 19:37, Mark Carver wrote: Strictly speaking Blu-Ray (just like DVD) is a data storage medium. 25GB for a single layer disc, double that for dual layer. It can, (and I believe will) be used to record 4k format material This turns out not to be the case. Everything I said, is the case. At least, not yet - the spec isn't even finalised. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923 So while it _will_ be used to record 4k material, Which is what I said ! if it's got 4k on it right now it isn't blu-ray. Where did I say that was the case ? "It can, (and I believe will) be used to record 4k format material" ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As it can't yet ... oh *** it. Merry Christmas! Andy |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:39:34 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Mark Carver wrote: On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. Or even 'product'. No, that's us. That's ever so true (with obvious exceptions such as you and I). You can try telling "The Product" this not inconsiderable truth but they all seem determined to remain oblivious of their exploitation. As a dear old friend of mine was wont to say, "It's like educating Pork". -- J B Good |
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On 25/12/2014 20:48, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 23/12/2014 07:00, Mark Carver wrote: if it's got 4k on it right now it isn't blu-ray. Where did I say that was the case ? "It can, (and I believe will) be used to record 4k format material" ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As it can't yet ... oh *** it. Merry Christmas! Except I've seen 4k material played from prototype players into 4k monitors, so it can, there's simply not ratified standard yet. Anyway, yes, Merry Christmas -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On Friday, 26 December 2014 13:24:31 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
On 25/12/2014 20:48, Vir Campestris wrote: On 23/12/2014 07:00, Mark Carver wrote: if it's got 4k on it right now it isn't blu-ray. Where did I say that was the case ? "It can, (and I believe will) be used to record 4k format material" ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As it can't yet ... oh *** it. Merry Christmas! Except I've seen 4k material played from prototype players into 4k monitors, so it can, there's simply not ratified standard yet. Well maybe not for the disks, but there is for the monitor, so whatever you connect to it should work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.4 although v2.0 will be better. Anyway, yes, Merry Christmas -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:06:18 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote: Mark Carver wrote: On 22/12/2014 10:09, Geoff Pearson wrote: Interesting - so far no one has confessed to buying one to watch telly, nor identified any tempting sources of material. The words 'telly' and 'programme' are rapidly being replaced now by the word 'content'. Or even 'product'. Bill The lovies say 'project' -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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Graham. wrote:
Or even 'product'. Bill The lovies say 'project' I didn't know that. But I wouldn't would I? Bill |
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