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Steve Thackery wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:

To be clear: Are you saying that if I buy a FreeviewHDTV and watch
FreeviewHD the spdif/optical audio output of the TV will not give
any output?

It definitely gives an output because I feed mine into my amp, which
outputs the multi-channel sound as intended. However, any video
output - if available at all - is in SD. As far as I know, none of
the video outputs work when HD material is being received.

Actually I want to rethink that. I *think* the audio output is as
broadcast, but I realise now I don't have any way of actually checking
that. So I apologise for sounding certain - I'm not sure now how to
find out for sure.

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

Must confess I don't know what 'gip' is

My purpose in experimenting with get_iplayer
^ ^^
g ip

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 12:06:49 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:

Must confess I don't know what 'gip' is

As you've supplied a smiley, I assume you realise, but I explain for
the benefit of others that may not have, that it's just an
abbreviation for get_iplayer. However, in my case it really can be
typed, because I have created a symbolic link on the path with:
cd directory on path
ln -s path to get_iplayer gip

My purpose in experimenting with get_iplayer
^ ^^
g ip

Yes, I had thought it sufficiently obvious not to require further
explanation! However, your explanation requires a fixed font, with a
proportional I get 'eng' !-)
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:36:11 +0000, Andy Burns
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http://computerweekly.com/news/2240227473
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 05:11:45 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

David Woolley wrote:

If you want to keep listening to a performance, each repeat of that
performance has a value to you. The artist wants to receive some of
that value, in monetary form. (Not to mention their agents, recording
companies, etc.)

Exactly. That's why each time someone borrows a book from a library,
the author gets a payment.

I've been wondering recently whether domestic TV recorders are on the
way out. I don't mean tomorrow or next year, but over a decade or three.

With increasing online, on-demand, access to TV programmes and movies I
can imagine rights-holders saying that they no longer want their
material to be recordable and re-viewable any number of times by
consumers as opposed to consumers viewing TV programmes and movies via
services like Netflix resulting in payments to the rights-holders.

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Java Jive wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

http://computerweekly.com/news/2240227473

"Sorry, the page you requested could not be found."

Hmmm, I'm sure the truncated version worked before I posted it ...

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240227473/NHS-Spine-infrastructure-transition-successful-says-HSCIC

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Java Jive wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

get_iplayer
^ ^^
g ip

your explanation requires a fixed font

Doesn't everyone left on usenet use a fixed font?

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14:18:34:

Java Jive wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

get_iplayer
^ ^^
g ip

your explanation requires a fixed font

Doesn't everyone left on usenet use a fixed font?

Not here in Xnews, but then Shift-F is easy enough to remember to toggle.
With all the levels quoted in different font variants it's easier for me to
see what's happening (colour-blindness makes colour differentiation more
difficult), and it's been this way since January 2002.

Confusingly when I compose a reply it's in a fixed font.
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In article , lid
says...

On 02/11/14 01:13, Yellow wrote:
additional repeat fees that are payable each time a program or work they
perform in is repeated.

How is that a problem?

The ideal for the artist is to get paid every time that their
performance is listened to, as that represents their real market value.

Yes, I know all the arguments. :-)

Shame we are not all paid like that - the person who made your shoes
could be paid by the step and the person who laid the railway track
could be paid every time a train crosses it but for some reason this
"logic" is only applied to "artists".

It need not be and it should not be.

And in real life, it is being obvious to almost all that it cannot be.


There are technical and PR problems in actually achieving that. To
get the best compromise, they enter into an agreement with the BBC that
says that the public may only access the contents for a limited time
after a broadcast and that they will be paid for each broadcast.

Copyright and performing rights law backs up this arrangement by
requiring the BBC to give explicit permission for the public to record
the material and making it illegal to defeat technical protection measures.

If you want to keep listening to a performance, each repeat of that
performance has a value to you. The artist wants to receive some of
that value, in monetary form. (Not to mention their agents, recording
companies, etc.)

The original business model for radio broadcasts was as advertisements
for the vinyl or polycarbonate versions, which were priced based on
their being repeatedly performed.

I don't particularly like some of the consequences, like the
privatisation of popular culture (if you sing the latest hit to your
friends, you are infringing the copyright or performing rights, but the
West is now an intellectual property based economy.

Incidentally, one of the things that annoys me is when adverts for DVDs
talk about owning copies. You don't own the copy. You only own the
medium. You can't play the DVD to your local social club without a
further licence, and you can't copy it for your friends.


They can be paid each time it is broadcast if that is the arrangement
the BBC has entered into with the artist, but that has nothing
whatsoever to do with how many times (or not) an individual listens to
their recording of that broadcast.

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 05:11:45 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

David Woolley wrote:

If you want to keep listening to a performance, each repeat of that
performance has a value to you. The artist wants to receive some of
that value, in monetary form. (Not to mention their agents, recording
companies, etc.)

Exactly. That's why each time someone borrows a book from a library,
the author gets a payment.

I've been wondering recently whether domestic TV recorders are on the
way out. I don't mean tomorrow or next year, but over a decade or three.

With increasing online, on-demand, access to TV programmes and movies I
can imagine rights-holders saying that they no longer want their
material to be recordable and re-viewable any number of times by
consumers as opposed to consumers viewing TV programmes and movies via
services like Netflix resulting in payments to the rights-holders.

Short of persuading law makers to make the production and ownership of
recording equipment illegal, how can they stop their works from being
recorded?

Not that making recording illegal would stop anything of course.

Surely it is better to reform the law and to reform people's
expectations and methods of renumeration to reflect the operation of the
technology and to respect both the rights of the consumer and the rights
of the "artist".