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I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A few
weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it will not
remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume is at maximum
so I must set it to the required level, before the format change it would
remember the setting. I have emailed BBC with so far no response.



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In article , Martin
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:02:49 +0200, "Y Dangle"
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I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A
few weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it
will not remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume
is at maximum so I must set it to the required level, before the
format change it would remember the setting. I have emailed BBC with
so far no response.

Try filling in the BBC survey and complaining about the sound.

You will be told that it is by design, like I was told when I complained
that iPlayer no longer ran on Opera. Have you tried using the Desk Top
version of iPlayer? That still remembers sound settings. Ignore the
stupid message that says no stations are available and click "live
radio".

Afraid I don't know what you mean by the "Desk Top" version of iPlayer.
Here using FF on Linux I now get the same irritating behaviour as the OP.

Jim

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:02:49 +0200, "Y Dangle"
wrote:

I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A few
weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it will not
remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume is at maximum
so I must set it to the required level, before the format change it would
remember the setting. I have emailed BBC with so far no response.



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It's not something I would have noticed, probably because I expect the
individual volume controls to work like faders on a mixer, ie at
maximum for normal listening and the actual volume adjusted elsewhere,
such as on an amplifier.

I do see what you mean though. On my OS (Windows 7) the BBC player
populates the Windows volume mixer with its own fader, but the BBC
player does not move it or vice-versa, but at least you can define a
differential w.r.t. your other sources.

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In article , Graham.
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:02:49 +0200, "Y Dangle"
wrote:

I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A
few weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it
will not remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume
is at maximum so I must set it to the required level, before the
format change it would remember the setting. --


It's not something I would have noticed, probably because I expect the
individual volume controls to work like faders on a mixer, ie at maximum
for normal listening and the actual volume adjusted elsewhere, such as
on an amplifier.

I think I need to ask 'somebody' at the BBC about this. I just realised
that the OP said it defaults to maximum. Here it now insists on defaulting
to '8' whereas the max is a spinal tap '11'. When I checked for the older
iplayer design I was told '11' actually corresponded to nominal unity gain.

Now I have to change the '8' to '11' every time if that's what I want. I'll
check to see if '8' now means nominal unity gain and '11' should be
avoided.

Jim

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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I think I need to ask 'somebody' at the BBC about this. I just realised
that the OP said it defaults to maximum. Here it now insists on defaulting
to '8' whereas the max is a spinal tap '11'. When I checked for the older
iplayer design I was told '11' actually corresponded to nominal unity
gain.

Now I have to change the '8' to '11' every time if that's what I want.
I'll
check to see if '8' now means nominal unity gain and '11' should be
avoided.

Jim

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Sorry Jim, just checked and you are correct, it defaults to somewhat less
than max, but of course the problem is that it doesn't remember a setting.
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I imagine they have changed things for those not in the UK then, as I've not
noticed a change here.
Brian

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"Y Dangle" wrote in message
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I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A few
weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it will not
remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume is at maximum
so I must set it to the required level, before the format change it would
remember the setting. I have emailed BBC with so far no response.


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Another thing is of course that if you refuse cookies you don't get any
saved settings.

Brian

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:02:49 +0200, "Y Dangle"
wrote:

I am in the habit of listening to Radio 4 via
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm (I am in Cyprus). A few
weeks ago they changed the format of the player. Since then it will not
remember the volume setting, every time I go there the volume is at
maximum
so I must set it to the required level, before the format change it would
remember the setting. I have emailed BBC with so far no response.

Try filling in the BBC survey and complaining about the sound.

You will be told that it is by design, like I was told when I complained
that
iPlayer no longer ran on Opera. Have you tried using the Desk Top version
of
iPlayer? That still remembers sound settings. Ignore the stupid message
that
says no stations are available and click "live radio".

BTW thanks for the link!
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I imagine they have changed things for those not in the UK then, as I've
not noticed a change here.
Brian

No. If I use Expat Shield (which makes my ip look like uk) I have exactly
the same effect.
Y.



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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Another thing is of course that if you refuse cookies you don't get any
saved settings.

Brian

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In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
I imagine they have changed things for those not in the UK then, as I've
not noticed a change here.

How do you check the gain level being applied by the iplayer 'decoder'?

Here on the FF webpage it shows a number a a 'thermometer slider'. The
value used to remember being set to '11' (max thermometer). But now it
insists on reverting to '8' every time.

I've not checked the current version yet, but I think when I measured this
a few years ago the level difference between '8' and '11' was a few dB.

Jim

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:38:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

Another thing is of course that if you refuse cookies you don't get any
saved settings.

Ditto if you use CCleaner.

Unless you tell it which cookies not to delete.

Click Options then Cookies. You'll see the websites you've visited on
the left, and you can move the ones you want to keep to the right.

Rod.

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In message , Roderick
Stewart writes
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:38:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

Another thing is of course that if you refuse cookies you don't get any
saved settings.

Ditto if you use CCleaner.

Unless you tell it which cookies not to delete.

Click Options then Cookies. You'll see the websites you've visited on
the left, and you can move the ones you want to keep to the right.

Rod.

You can do that in Firefox, and possibly I.E..
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:05:12 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Roderick
Stewart writes
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:38:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

Another thing is of course that if you refuse cookies you don't get any
saved settings.

Ditto if you use CCleaner.

Unless you tell it which cookies not to delete.

Click Options then Cookies. You'll see the websites you've visited on
the left, and you can move the ones you want to keep to the right.

Rod.

You can do that in Firefox, and possibly I.E..

True, but CCleaner doesn't just clean out the temporary files from one
of your web browsers. Windows itself seems to leave a trail of garbage
files even when it doesn't appear to be doing much. CCleaner sometimes
reports the disposal of hundreds of megabytes of goodness knows what,
when all I've been doing is checking my emails and reading the papers.

Rod.