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In article , Robin wrote:
I'll probably buy the TV from a local shop if they have what I want.
Otherwise I may look to John Lewis to get one. Either way, I'll need
them to also cart away my old CRT set (analogue). I can't even lift
that, let alone put it out for collection!

John Lewis will take away your old set for £9 if you buy a large screen
TV (37" or over).

Yes, that's one of the reasons they'll be the people I look to if the local
shop doesn't offer what I wish. Ditto if the local shop won't take away the
old CRT set.

Jim

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In article , Andy
Burns
wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

"Andy Burns" wrote:

Then you're at the mercy of whatever DAC in in the amp,

true, but if you can spot it, you must have pretty good ears.

I wouldn't claim my ears are up to it, but Jim obviously does :-P

I don't have any professional amps that contain a DAC. :-)

Had to add "professional" because I do have a couple of DIY headphone amp +
DAC devices I've cobbled together. For both the main hifi and the AV/TV
system I use pre and power amps from an ancient era. Armstrong 730/732s and
Quad 34s. Hear no reason to change them whilst they go on working OK.

Jim

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On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:38:41 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

The council would take it from the kerbside for 25 quid. But I can't even
lift it, let alone carry it that far. Nor could I plus better-half. Totally
out of the question to carry it up the stairs even if we wanted a TV that
size up there! In fact, I'd fear for the floor upstairs as its a loft
conversion.

I'd bet it isn't heavier than you are, and presumably you go up there
without worrying about the floor too much...

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
It could be that your opinion is based on the use of old CRT sets.

About 10 years old.

As I said, the previous set (B&O) was better in general audio terms and
would drive a fair external speaker. No noise from the speakers when the
volume was wound down, etc. But it was monophonic analogue 4:3 of the
pre-scart generation. So we replaced it when digital came along...

You had a 10 year old TV with no SCART sockets? My '70s Philips had one.

My last CRT set - a Philips Matchline ('90s) - had truly excellent sound
circuits if you except the amps and speakers. And allowed dubbing between
say two VCRs while watching the TV. The widescreen set which replaced it
had much poorer line level electronics.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article , Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:38:41 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

The council would take it from the kerbside for 25 quid. But I can't
even lift it, let alone carry it that far. Nor could I plus
better-half. Totally out of the question to carry it up the stairs
even if we wanted a TV that size up there! In fact, I'd fear for the
floor upstairs as its a loft conversion.

I'd bet it isn't heavier than you are, and presumably you go up there
without worrying about the floor too much...

Actually, you'd be wrong given our recent problems with things like leaking
water tanks, etc. However since we'd not want the TV upstairs anyway its
fairly irrelevant.

Jim

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:
It could be that your opinion is based on the use of old CRT sets.

About 10 years old.

As I said, the previous set (B&O) was better in general audio terms
and would drive a fair external speaker. No noise from the speakers
when the volume was wound down, etc. But it was monophonic analogue
4:3 of the pre-scart generation. So we replaced it when digital came
along...

You had a 10 year old TV with no SCART sockets?

Nope.

Our *current* TV is a Panasonic CRT widescreen analogue one with SCART.

Our *previous* TV was a 1980s B&O 4:3 set with quite decent analogue (for
plain no-NICAM PAL) output arrangements, but no SCART.

The B&O had a fairly decent speaker output which I used to drive an old
Armstrong 602 speaker. Sounded pretty good for TV of the time. But
eventually replaced it with the current one as we decided we needed SCART
and widescreen as the UK 'went digital' and I also wanted to play/record
DVDs, etc.

Shame as the B&O was very good. Compared to that the analogue audio of the
Panasonic was poor, albeit stereo. Even passthough analogue from SCART to a
pair of phonos was poor. Added background noise and peak distortion. Also
from its NICAM. Clearly analogue audio was the poor relation as the picture
is fairly good, even now, given a good input.

The set still works OK, but I've decided it is time to start the shift to
HD as it seems clear the broadcasters have that in mind anyway. Once the
new HDTV is established here I'll also look at BD, PVR, etc. FWIW I've
already been making some test HDTV ts recordings so it'll be interesting to
see how I get on. But one step at a time... :-)

Jim


JIm

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On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:44:53 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf wrote:

In article , Robin wrote:
I'll probably buy the TV from a local shop if they have what I want.
Otherwise I may look to John Lewis to get one. Either way, I'll need
them to also cart away my old CRT set (analogue). I can't even lift
that, let alone put it out for collection!

John Lewis will take away your old set for £9 if you buy a large screen
TV (37" or over).

Yes, that's one of the reasons they'll be the people I look to if the local
shop doesn't offer what I wish. Ditto if the local shop won't take away the
old CRT set.

Jim

By taking care of the paperwork that comes with electrical items, I've
managed to get BHF to take quite a lot.
I've an AEG washing machine to get rid of soon (I fancy a new one), so
that'll go to a neighbour's daughter or to BHF.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Had to add "professional" because I do have a couple of DIY headphone
amp + DAC devices I've cobbled together. For both the main hifi and the
AV/TV system I use pre and power amps from an ancient era. Armstrong
730/732s and Quad 34s. Hear no reason to change them whilst they go on
working OK.

I'm using a reasonably recent Linn pre-amp which has no optical input
either. Although it works very well it looks like something from a pound
shop. ;-) Only reason I got it (used from Ebay) is it is small and has
enough inputs. I've made it even smaller. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Jim Lesurf wrote:

Yes, that's one of the reasons they'll be the people I look to if the local
shop doesn't offer what I wish. Ditto if the local shop won't take away the
old CRT set.

Jim


If the old CRT set is digital you could give it to someone. How about
the local hospice?

Bill

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In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Yes, that's one of the reasons they'll be the people I look to if the
local shop doesn't offer what I wish. Ditto if the local shop won't
take away the old CRT set.


If the old CRT set is digital

It isn't.

Jim

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