Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:37:23 +0000
Scott wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:08:19 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:38:25 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

Davey wrote:

I only have a 26" TV screen, a Toshiba, ... Switching from BBC1
HD to BBC1 SD showed no discernible difference.

There's something wrong. I watch SD and HD on screens ranging from
20" upwards. The difference between SD and HD is instantly
obvious. I'm not talking about something like the degree of
difference in picture quality such as you would get between 625
PAL and RGB; this is much more than that.

Bill


There may be something wrong, I grant you. But what, and how do I
find out what it is? And I am not that worried, as it is fine for
us, I'm not looking for the Ultimate Viewing Experience, and I do
not intend to buy a new STB to get a different Freeview HD source.
The Toshiba menu has loads of unintelligible options, but they do
look correct, and I can't imagine the Humax downscaling an HD image
before sending it out on the HDMI link. Or maybe it's upscaling the
SD ones instead, or maybe the TV set is? I only use the HDMI
connection to the TV set. Maybe I'm watching everything in HD or
simulated HD! If you're ever in East Anglia, drop by for a cuppa and
have a look.....

Had an eye test recently? Are you using varifocals or standard
lenses, or no spectacles?

You know, it strikes me that what we need is some kind of screen image,
broadcast on a BBC Channel while it's not being used. It could have
different colours, some stripes of varying solidity, width and
resolution; maybe a circle to check for eccentricity and aspect
ratio. Maybe put a picture of a little girl in the middle? It would be
useful for comparing SD and HD images. Then we could give it a name:
The Test Card. I wonder if I could patent the idea?

--
Davey.

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:29:19 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

It's been an interesting time, so far. I'll be 60 when I graduate - I
wonder what comes after that?

Write a book.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

Alan White wrote:

Write a book.

Blimey, my life isn't the kind people would want to read about!

--
SteveT

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:47:41 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:37:23 +0000
Scott wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:08:19 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:38:25 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

Davey wrote:

I only have a 26" TV screen, a Toshiba, ... Switching from BBC1
HD to BBC1 SD showed no discernible difference.

There's something wrong. I watch SD and HD on screens ranging from
20" upwards. The difference between SD and HD is instantly
obvious. I'm not talking about something like the degree of
difference in picture quality such as you would get between 625
PAL and RGB; this is much more than that.

Bill


There may be something wrong, I grant you. But what, and how do I
find out what it is? And I am not that worried, as it is fine for
us, I'm not looking for the Ultimate Viewing Experience, and I do
not intend to buy a new STB to get a different Freeview HD source.
The Toshiba menu has loads of unintelligible options, but they do
look correct, and I can't imagine the Humax downscaling an HD image
before sending it out on the HDMI link. Or maybe it's upscaling the
SD ones instead, or maybe the TV set is? I only use the HDMI
connection to the TV set. Maybe I'm watching everything in HD or
simulated HD! If you're ever in East Anglia, drop by for a cuppa and
have a look.....

Had an eye test recently? Are you using varifocals or standard
lenses, or no spectacles?

You know, it strikes me that what we need is some kind of screen image,
broadcast on a BBC Channel while it's not being used. It could have
different colours, some stripes of varying solidity, width and
resolution; maybe a circle to check for eccentricity and aspect
ratio. Maybe put a picture of a little girl in the middle? It would be
useful for comparing SD and HD images. Then we could give it a name:
The Test Card. I wonder if I could patent the idea?

Except ... when is a channel not being used? The main channels are
24/7. When BBC Three/Four are off air they are occupied by
CBBC/CBeebies.

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

In article ,
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Scott wrote:
Seems half the people think HD is brilliant and the other half can't
see much difference. You and I must be in different categories.

I would have expected most people who have looked at it to be in a
category "yes, it's obviously better, but not as much as I'd hoped".

It does rather depend on what you're watching. Some drama uses fog filters
on the cameras to 'soften' the pictures. And of course not everything
shown on an HD channel has originated as HD.

One thing is true. HD now is nothing like as good as it was when first
introduced.

--
*WHY IS THERE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON SOUR CREAM?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:50:15 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:47:41 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:37:23 +0000
Scott wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:08:19 +0000, Davey
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:38:25 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

Davey wrote:

I only have a 26" TV screen, a Toshiba, ... Switching from BBC1
HD to BBC1 SD showed no discernible difference.

There's something wrong. I watch SD and HD on screens ranging from
20" upwards. The difference between SD and HD is instantly
obvious. I'm not talking about something like the degree of
difference in picture quality such as you would get between 625
PAL and RGB; this is much more than that.

Bill


There may be something wrong, I grant you. But what, and how do I
find out what it is? And I am not that worried, as it is fine for
us, I'm not looking for the Ultimate Viewing Experience, and I do
not intend to buy a new STB to get a different Freeview HD source.
The Toshiba menu has loads of unintelligible options, but they do
look correct, and I can't imagine the Humax downscaling an HD image
before sending it out on the HDMI link. Or maybe it's upscaling the
SD ones instead, or maybe the TV set is? I only use the HDMI
connection to the TV set. Maybe I'm watching everything in HD or
simulated HD! If you're ever in East Anglia, drop by for a cuppa and
have a look.....

Had an eye test recently? Are you using varifocals or standard
lenses, or no spectacles?

You know, it strikes me that what we need is some kind of screen image,
broadcast on a BBC Channel while it's not being used. It could have
different colours, some stripes of varying solidity, width and
resolution; maybe a circle to check for eccentricity and aspect
ratio. Maybe put a picture of a little girl in the middle? It would be
useful for comparing SD and HD images. Then we could give it a name:
The Test Card. I wonder if I could patent the idea?

Except ... when is a channel not being used? The main channels are
24/7. When BBC Three/Four are off air they are occupied by
CBBC/CBeebies.

There is a test card available on Freeview at all times. It is low
resolution but is OK for adjusting brightness, contrast and colour.

To display it (Test Card W):

1) Tune to BBCi on 200
2) When BBCi background appears press Yellow within 30 seconds
3) Tune to another channel
4) Go back to 200
5) When BBCi background appears press Green within 30 seconds
6) Wait between 30 seconds and a couple of minutes and TCW should
appear.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:13:17 +0000, Alan
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:29:19 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

It's been an interesting time, so far. I'll be 60 when I graduate - I
wonder what comes after that?

Write a book.


That's actually quite a good suggestion. 'They' say everyone has at
least one good book within them. It's a thought that's vaguely crossed
my mind in recent years (even _my_ life must be infinitely more
interesting than those "Celebrities" who had the audacity to employ a
ghost writer to prey upon the gullibility of the "Great Unwashed"
masses).
--
Regards, J B Good

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:05:31 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Alan White wrote:

Write a book.

Blimey, my life isn't the kind people would want to read about!

Don't undersell yourself. The interest group within the book market
might be tiny compared to the group targetted by the 'Celebs' but at
least yours would be a high quality product consumed by people of
taste and learning.
--
Regards, J B Good

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:49:15 +0000, Johny B Good
wrote:

...but at
least yours would be a high quality product consumed by people of
taste and learning.

That's me!

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

Why does BBC 1 now call itself BBC1 LON?
 

Johny B Good wrote:

I'm now at that stage where I'm so close to retirement, there's
little point in trying to start up another line of business so I'm
just coasting along and collecting Tax Credit (it's better than
"Working for the Man" or faffing around with the "Job Seekers'
allowance nonsense).

Like you, I cleared my debts (house mortgage) when I got paid off so
we're comfortably off without the need to sell our souls to the devil.

The family has all grown up and started families of their own (with
the exception of our youngest lad - a "Thirty Year Old Teenager" who
remains with us in this very large family house). I'm staying alive
almost purely for my own amusement these days, contemplating the whole
futility of 'our existance' and pontificating in usenet groups such as
this.

I guess I'm not so different to everyone else. After all (to
paraphrase), "I _am_ unque, just like everyone else!" :-)

Philosophically, interesting...

Bill