All that Jaz
 

The successive stages of development of PSB in the UK were not, until
quite recently, determined exclusively by market forces.


Genuine question: in what sense is the BBC's evolution deterrmined by
market forces? (I know it chases ratings by eg paying to televise the
Lotto draw but that seems to me its choice based on its decisions on
priorities rather than a response to market forces. OTOH if you have in
mind government/Parliament as its market via the Charter and license fee
then I don't see that as a recent factor.
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Robin
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Robin wrote:
The successive stages of development of PSB in the UK were not, until
quite recently, determined exclusively by market forces.


Genuine question: in what sense is the BBC's evolution deterrmined by
market forces? (I know it chases ratings by eg paying to televise the
Lotto draw but that seems to me its choice based on its decisions on
priorities rather than a response to market forces. OTOH if you have in
mind government/Parliament as its market via the Charter and license fee
then I don't see that as a recent factor.

I was talking more about transmission arrangements, use of bandwidth,
etc, than programme provision. But the BBC is in a very privileged
position. It has PSB status and is financed by a compulsory poll tax.

Bill

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In article , Scott
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:07:21 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan
wrote:


Agreed, it's a more comprehensive and interesting service than BBC
News. Russia Today however is a completely differnt kettle of borscht.

Kaiser Report is quite entertaining though!

I don't accept all Bill's attempts to claim 'bias' by the BBC. But I do
think they suffer from poor management and lazy journalism at times.

So we tend to get BBC 'News' programs which simply parrot reports about the
'economic recovery' - whilst at the same time specialist programs delve
into the background and show that the 'recovery' may largely been built on
printing money. Hence will only last until the bubble bursts and/or they
try to cut down the printing. Which no doubt the present government plan
won't happen until *after* the next election. Classic old "boom and bust"
tory strategy from past decades.

e.g. compare recent BBC News broadcasts of such matters with specialist
programs like "More or Less" on R4.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article ,
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:09:41 -0000, "Woody"
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2) (a) In parts of London it is now commonplace to see persons hawking
and spitting in the street. I do not recall seeing this in the UK until
relatively recently, and I would certainly have remembered such a
disgusting activity. The persons guilty of this behaviour generally have
the appearance of not being native British.

I stopped living in London about 30 years ago. But when I did live there I
saw people doing this and - more often - the results on the pavement. Don't
recall those I saw doing this looking "not British".

You may be too young to recall the Private Eye "Barry McKenzie" strip where
he developed a style of walking to avoid all the dog-doo, etc, on the
pavements.

Slainte,

Jim

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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:09:41 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:


2) (a) In parts of London it is now commonplace to see persons hawking
and spitting in the street. I do not recall seeing this in the UK
until relatively recently, and I would certainly have remembered such
a disgusting activity. The persons guilty of this behaviour generally
have the appearance of not being native British.


You don't remember the "No Spitting" signs on the buses in the late 40's and
50's, before all this
immigration started.

J

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Does anyone know the political and financial reasons why Al Jazeera
occupies one of the prized HD slots on UK terrestrial TV? Its presence
seems to have little to do with proving the public with the best
possible service.


Depends what you mean by 'public'. Are those who view it not members of
the public?

Yes, but how many are there compared to the numbers who would prefer
some other channel in HD?

I dunno. Do you? Do you also know it is stopping another perhaps more
popular service being there?

Or do you consider you and you alone speak for the public?
Some form of community spokesman?

What gives you that idea? Your illogical leaps are astounding.

Then just speak for yourself - not 'the public'.

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*Why is "abbreviated" such a long word?

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:03:15 -0000, "I'm Old Gregg"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:09:41 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:


2) (a) In parts of London it is now commonplace to see persons hawking
and spitting in the street. I do not recall seeing this in the UK
until relatively recently, and I would certainly have remembered such
a disgusting activity. The persons guilty of this behaviour generally
have the appearance of not being native British.


You don't remember the "No Spitting" signs on the buses in the late 40's and
50's, before all this
immigration started.

My memory of buses does go back beyond the mid 50's, but no.
Certain I didn't see such in the 60's.

All that Jaz
 

You don't remember the "No Spitting" signs on the buses in the late
40's and 50's, before all this
immigration started.

My memory of buses does go back beyond the mid 50's, but no.
Certain I didn't see such in the 60's.

I well remember seeing the *signs* on older buses (and trolley buses) in
the 50s. I don't remember seeing anyone actually spitting then. But in
those days there was rather less emphasis on individual rights and more
on community action so I suspect offenders might well have fallen down
the stairs/off the back of the bus given how many passengers would have
known first-hand or heard much about the effects of TB.


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"Robin" wrote in message
...
You don't remember the "No Spitting" signs on the buses
in the late
40's and 50's, before all this
immigration started.

My memory of buses does go back beyond the mid 50's, but
no.
Certain I didn't see such in the 60's.

I well remember seeing the *signs* on older buses (and
trolley buses) in the 50s. I don't remember seeing anyone
actually spitting then. But in those days there was
rather less emphasis on individual rights and more on
community action so I suspect offenders might well have
fallen down the stairs/off the back of the bus given how
many passengers would have known first-hand or heard much
about the effects of TB.




I doesn't help when you see closeups of football players
spitting (and swearing for that matter) on MoTD!!


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
You may be too young to recall the Private Eye "Barry McKenzie" strip
where he developed a style of walking to avoid all the dog-doo, etc, on
the pavements.

Luckily that's fairly rare these days. Dogs don't tend to roam loose, and
most owners pick up after them.

--
*Lawyers believe a man is innocent until proven broke.

Dave Plowman London SW
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