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Brian Gaff December 30th 13 12:08 PM

All that Jaz
 
Ah this is precisely the argument I've been giving for years about why
political parties are not needed. Most people would perhaps agree with some
things andnot others, but it seems that our politics in this country is a
kind of if you like this idea they how dare you like this one over here.
Its utterly madness.
Or shouldhat be uttely mad, or just madness.
Anyway, I find more and more that I disagree with all parties on some
things, so they wonder why turn out at elections is low?

Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Robin wrote:
And yet those airwaves belong to the people.

You may well think so but Parliament is not obliged to agree - eg if you
decide to start broadcasting "Wright is Right" 24/7 on all muxes ;)


One person isn't 'the people'.


In any event, I am a little surprised you subscribe to the "public
ownership of the airwaves" concept which I thought largely an invention
of the left who wanted public funding of broadcasting in an attempt to
balance what they perceived (with some justification) as a largely
right-wing press.


Not everything or everyone fits neatly along the left-right continuum.
Those of us who think for ourselves don't consult the policies of the
major parties or the Students' Union before deciding what to think.
Despite my views on the alien hordes we now have attempting to take over
our country — views which you would pigeon-hole as extreme right wing — I
have many opinions which you would regard as left wing. This puzzles and
confuses many people, who like to think that everyone who regrets Labour's
period of unrestricted immigration and who believes that benefit- and
NHS-tourists should be unceremoniously booted out of the country is an
evil fascist who by definition must be a racist; must believe in
unrestricted capitalism; and must eat babies.

Bill




R. Mark Clayton December 30th 13 01:06 PM

All that Jaz
 

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

when they sold the 3G band they got ~£22,500,000,000


And how did those high costs affect telco profits and corresponding
corporation tax?


I would estimate that for the first few years the loss of CT due to the
interest on the money was around £1billion per year.

Initially the losses were higher as the telco's also had the cost of
installing all the 3G base stations and rugged infrastructure as well.

Initial sales were poor, but now most people have smart phones so are on
more expensive tariffs and have often bought phones from the telco's as
well. For instance I am paying more than double what I was paying ten years
ago, but OTOH almost never go outside the bundle.



R. Mark Clayton December 30th 13 01:07 PM

All that Jaz
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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tim..... wrote:

they offered to pay more than the next contestant, for it
And yet those airwaves belong to the people.


Yes and their elected government decided to sell them off to the highest
bidder...


A demonstration of the limitations of democracy.


So what would you have a continuation of 405 line monochrome TV?


Bill




R. Mark Clayton December 30th 13 01:09 PM

All that Jaz
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Scott wrote:

Indeed, I have concerns about the BBC though I think they are probably
more selective than biased.


It's called bias by omission. The BBC didn't tell a single fib about the
ship stuck in the Antarctic, but they didn't tell the truth.


You mean dissembling.

Example - you go to your local used car dealer and he shows you a car and
says "one careful lady owner" - well indeed, but does he mention the three
boy racers who have had it since, well of course not..., but he isn't lying.


Bill




tim..... December 30th 13 01:33 PM

All that Jaz
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

Does anyone know [...] why Al Jazeera occupies one of the prized HD
slots on UK terrestrial TV?


Prized? AIUI COM7 isn't full yet, COM8 is (or will soon be) available,
channels like Five and Film4 that arguably would benefit more from HD
aren't queueing up to pay ...


And yet according to OFCOM spectrum is so very scarce. Like gold it is.
Hence we have no mux 7 or 8 on many transmitters for fear of CCI.

I think (incidentally) that Five will have to provide free HD before too
long. As more and more people get HD tellys they are going to lose
audience. I don't bother looking what's on Five (except I look for fishing
progs for father) because I can't see the point of watching SD when
there's more HD progs on than I have time for.


I still can't see the point in bothering with HD if all I want to watch is a
science documentary

tim



Dave Plowman (News) December 30th 13 01:57 PM

All that Jaz
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Does anyone know the political and financial reasons why Al Jazeera
occupies one of the prized HD slots on UK terrestrial TV? Its presence
seems to have little to do with proving the public with the best
possible service.



Depends what you mean by 'public'. Are those who view it not members of
the public? Or do you consider you and you alone speak for the public?
Some form of community spokesman?

BTW, who appoints these community spokes persons we continually see being
interviewed? I dunno anyone who's been asked to vote for one.

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[email protected] December 30th 13 02:38 PM

All that Jaz
 
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:09:41 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:

My wife, who often doesn't contribute to discussion on these
sort of things, came out the other day with some very valid
comments about the immigration issue. She said that it is
presenting three problems:-

1) Most concerningly it is diluting our national
heritage/history to the extent that the indigenous
Englishperson/Brit will cease to exist in a few decades time
because of the cross pollination. You only have to look at
what has happened in Boston Lincs which has almost been
overrun by Polish immigrants to see how it has completely
changed the face of the town - and yes, I have been there
recently.

2) The health standards of many immigrants are an unknown
quantity so who knows what diseases etc they are bringing
with them to which the indigenous population have no
resistance and which the NHS will have to treat.

2) (a) In parts of London it is now commonplace to see persons hawking
and spitting in the street. I do not recall seeing this in the UK
until relatively recently, and I would certainly have remembered such
a disgusting activity. The persons guilty of this behaviour generally
have the appearance of not being native British.

3) Ghettos are already starting to develop in some places
which are becoming no-go for the authorities and police not
only in the UK but elsewhere in Europe, parts of Paris for
example. If any attempt is made to take action of any sort
in these areas - be that health, environmental, or legal for
instance - the occupants immediately start screaming about
racial discrimination and/or make physical attempts to stop
it so the powers that be have no alternative but to back
off. The classic example here is Romas (as we now seem to be
calling them.)

I was reading a newspaper yesterday in a retail shed whilst
waiting for Management. It seems that the German police
stopped a vehicle in Bavaria a few days ago - a nine-seater
mini bus containing 34 people from Romania en route to an
undisclosed western European destination. If they are that
intent on getting across Europe what hope have we of
stopping them invading the UK whether Cameron leaves the
immigration limits in place or not?



Bill Wright[_2_] December 30th 13 04:18 PM

All that Jaz
 
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
tim..... wrote:

they offered to pay more than the next contestant, for it
And yet those airwaves belong to the people.
Yes and their elected government decided to sell them off to the highest
bidder...

A demonstration of the limitations of democracy.


So what would you have a continuation of 405 line monochrome TV?


The successive stages of development of PSB in the UK were not, until
quite recently, determined exclusively by market forces.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] December 30th 13 04:20 PM

All that Jaz
 
tim..... wrote:

I still can't see the point in bothering with HD if all I want to watch
is a science documentary


If your glasses weren't right would you go to the optician, or not bother?

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] December 30th 13 04:23 PM

All that Jaz
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Does anyone know the political and financial reasons why Al Jazeera
occupies one of the prized HD slots on UK terrestrial TV? Its presence
seems to have little to do with proving the public with the best
possible service.



Depends what you mean by 'public'. Are those who view it not members of
the public?


Yes, but how many are there compared to the numbers who would prefer
some other channel in HD?

Or do you consider you and you alone speak for the public?
Some form of community spokesman?


What gives you that idea? Your illogical leaps are astounding.

Bill


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