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Jeff Layman[_2_] December 27th 13 02:41 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!

Detailed review he
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm

--

Jeff

Dave Plowman (News) December 27th 13 03:33 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.


Most TVs are 'stunning' in the shop. It's only when you get them home and
watch a variety of material the flaws show up.

--
*I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[email protected] December 27th 13 03:42 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:33:06 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.


Most TVs are 'stunning' in the shop. It's only when you get them home and
watch a variety of material the flaws show up.


Also there is a question over the lifetime of OLED screens, which are
alleged to fade relatively quickly. This might not be a serious
problem with a smartphone that's discarded after two or three years,
but before spending that amount of money on a TV I'd want some sort of
guarantee as to its working life.

Graham.[_2_] December 27th 13 03:50 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote:

Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!

Detailed review he
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm


The answer probably is "Because they can".

OLED is flexible so it's trivial to do it.

Large cinema screens are often curved in the horizontal plane and
sometimes the vertical as well, no doubt the movie industry tells the
viewers it is to enhance their involvement in the picture in some non-
specified way, but the real reason was to help eliminate pincushion
distortion and focusing errors at the extremities, from projected
celluloid.


--
Graham.


%Profound_observation%

Mark Carver December 27th 13 06:01 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On 27/12/2013 14:42, lid wrote:


Also there is a question over the lifetime of OLED screens, which are
alleged to fade relatively quickly. This might not be a serious
problem with a smartphone that's discarded after two or three years,
but before spending that amount of money on a TV I'd want some sort of
guarantee as to its working life.


Yes, remember the 'O' stands for organic !


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Woody[_4_] December 27th 13 06:18 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
"Graham." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote:

Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning
picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven
grand?!

Detailed review he
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm


The answer probably is "Because they can".

OLED is flexible so it's trivial to do it.

Large cinema screens are often curved in the horizontal
plane and
sometimes the vertical as well, no doubt the movie
industry tells the
viewers it is to enhance their involvement in the picture
in some non-
specified way, but the real reason was to help eliminate
pincushion
distortion and focusing errors at the extremities, from
projected
celluloid.



It also means that the edges are the same distance from your
eyes as the centre so (a) the edges will be in the same
focus and you will be more aware of peripheral activity and
(b) if you look to the side of the screen you don't refocus
so it is much less tiring to watch.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



the dog from that film you saw[_3_] December 27th 13 06:28 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On 27/12/2013 13:41, Jeff Layman wrote:
Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811


And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!

Detailed review he
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm


#

can't help but feel they are curved because they can - unlike with a lcd
set.
if i was stumping up the money i'd want a flat one - i don't fall for
their viewing position arguments at all.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Graham.[_2_] December 27th 13 07:07 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 17:18:54 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote:

Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning
picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven
grand?!

Detailed review he
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm


The answer probably is "Because they can".

OLED is flexible so it's trivial to do it.

Large cinema screens are often curved in the horizontal
plane and
sometimes the vertical as well, no doubt the movie
industry tells the
viewers it is to enhance their involvement in the picture
in some non-
specified way, but the real reason was to help eliminate
pincushion
distortion and focusing errors at the extremities, from
projected
celluloid.



It also means that the edges are the same distance from your
eyes as the centre so (a) the edges will be in the same
focus and you will be more aware of peripheral activity and
(b) if you look to the side of the screen you don't refocus
so it is much less tiring to watch.


That's undoubtedly true for the usherette serving ice cream in the
central aisle ;-)
--
Graham.


%Profound_observation%

Johny B Good[_2_] December 27th 13 07:59 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote:

Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.
http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ke5...lasses/p641811

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!


Treat yourself to an HDMI cable from PoundLand?

--
Regards, J B Good

alan December 27th 13 08:17 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On 27/12/2013 17:18, Woody wrote:


It also means that the edges are the same distance from your
eyes as the centre so (a) the edges will be in the same
focus and you will be more aware of peripheral activity and
(b) if you look to the side of the screen you don't refocus
so it is much less tiring to watch.


In most domestic room/sitting arrangements it only allows one person to
sit in the optimum position.

I suspect its a fashion item and bucks the trend of making the TVs
thinner and thinner so that they can hang flat on the wall.



--
mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk

Bill Wright[_2_] December 27th 13 09:46 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
Saw one of these in John Lewis today. Simply stunning picture, but
still not sure why it is curved.


Most TVs are 'stunning' in the shop. It's only when you get them home and
watch a variety of material the flaws show up.


It's the same at a party. With girls I mean.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] December 27th 13 09:58 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
Woody wrote:

It also means that the edges are the same distance from your
eyes as the centre so (a) the edges will be in the same
focus and you will be more aware of peripheral activity and
(b) if you look to the side of the screen you don't refocus
so it is much less tiring to watch.


I think that beyond about 20 foot your eyes don't change focus much, if
at all.

Bill

Davey December 28th 13 12:57 AM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000
Jeff Layman wrote:

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!


Teach them grammar?
".... you'll forget your watching a screen."

--
Davey.


Dave Farrance December 28th 13 09:20 AM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
Mark Carver wrote:

On 27/12/2013 14:42, lid wrote:


Also there is a question over the lifetime of OLED screens, which are
alleged to fade relatively quickly. This might not be a serious
problem with a smartphone that's discarded after two or three years,
but before spending that amount of money on a TV I'd want some sort of
guarantee as to its working life.


Yes, remember the 'O' stands for organic !


The "O" being molecules like tris(8-hydroxyquinolinato)aluminium
which is technically an "organic" molecule. So "organic" doesn't imply a
shelf-life like the veggies in your refrigerator, but with new technology
the life-time of the product has to be estimated from accelerated aging
tests rather than real life.

Ian Jackson[_2_] December 28th 13 10:18 AM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
In message , Dave Farrance
writes
Mark Carver wrote:

On 27/12/2013 14:42, lid wrote:


Also there is a question over the lifetime of OLED screens, which are
alleged to fade relatively quickly. This might not be a serious
problem with a smartphone that's discarded after two or three years,
but before spending that amount of money on a TV I'd want some sort of
guarantee as to its working life.


Yes, remember the 'O' stands for organic !


The "O" being molecules like tris(8-hydroxyquinolinato)aluminium
which is technically an "organic" molecule. So "organic" doesn't imply a
shelf-life like the veggies in your refrigerator, but with new technology
the life-time of the product has to be estimated from accelerated aging
tests rather than real life.


When I were a lad, 'organic chemistry' was about things that contain
carbon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry
--
Ian

the dog from that film you saw[_3_] December 28th 13 10:40 AM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
On 28/12/2013 08:20, Dave Farrance wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

On 27/12/2013 14:42, lid wrote:


Also there is a question over the lifetime of OLED screens, which are
alleged to fade relatively quickly. This might not be a serious
problem with a smartphone that's discarded after two or three years,
but before spending that amount of money on a TV I'd want some sort of
guarantee as to its working life.


Yes, remember the 'O' stands for organic !


The "O" being molecules like tris(8-hydroxyquinolinato)aluminium
which is technically an "organic" molecule. So "organic" doesn't imply a
shelf-life like the veggies in your refrigerator, but with new technology
the life-time of the product has to be estimated from accelerated aging
tests rather than real life.




the type of person who spends £7000 on a tv is the type of person who
will want to do the same in four years time for the next new model - not
someone who wants a set for 25 years.
compare that to my parents - they only jetissoned their wooden sided gec
tv about 10 years ago when a fault caused it to blast out at full volume
unless you wrapped an elastic band around the volume knob.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Dave Farrance December 28th 13 10:45 AM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 
Ian Jackson wrote:

Dave Farrance writes

The "O" being molecules like tris(8-hydroxyquinolinato)aluminium
which is technically an "organic" molecule. So "organic" doesn't imply a
shelf-life like the veggies in your refrigerator, but with new technology
the life-time of the product has to be estimated from accelerated aging
tests rather than real life.


When I were a lad, 'organic chemistry' was about things that contain
carbon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry


Yes, if you "google" the fancy luminescent molecule that I mentioned,
you'll find images of it that are the typical interlinked hexagonal
carbon-ring structure with various other atoms here and there.

Paul December 30th 13 05:16 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 

"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000
Jeff Layman wrote:

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!


Now (only?) £4,999 in Curry's by the way.

Paul



Paul December 30th 13 05:20 PM

Samsung 55" OLED TV
 

"Paul" wrote in message
o.uk...

"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:41:38 +0000
Jeff Layman wrote:

And what would I do with that £1 change out of seven grand?!


Now (only?) £4,999 in Curry's by the way.

Paul

Hang on though, I'm looking at an LG set, didn't think there would be two
models of curved 55" OLED TVs !

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-...61480-pdt.html




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