OT bags
 

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:52:03 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

In terms of single-use bags used the figures so far released for the
first three month period the usage seems to have dropped to about 25% of
what it was. On the basis of casual observation in the supermarket,
convenience stores and shops that I use I'd estimate the drop to be much
greater. People are using either their own bags or multiple-use bags
sold by the retailers, or are carrying small numbers of items unbagged.

Which is very unhygienic. I wonder what is the environmental cost of one
attack of food poisoning.

It isn't unhygienic because bags used for health or safety reasons are
exempt from the levy.

quote
A single use carrier bag of any material and of any size is exempt from
the charging requirement if it is used solely to contain one or more of
the following unpackaged items:

* food for human or animal consumption – for example loose fruit and
vegetables and bread and other baked goods.

* loose seeds, bulbs, corms or rhizomes;

* axes, knives, and knife or razor blades; and

* goods contaminated by soil – for example vegetables or pot
plants.
endquote from:
http://www.doeni.gov.uk/guidance_on_...__ni__2013.pdf


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

OT bags
 

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Just proving what an arsehole you can be.

OT bags
 

UK Traveller wrote:
Gosh Bill,

This is almost as bad as me posting an OT about "DAB for Cars" - Ouch!

UK Traveller

Take no notice. Someone accused me of using the newsgroup as my personal
playground recently. Why else would I be here but to play? There's no
profit or sex to be gained.

I think the best attitude to the newsgroup police and the demands of the
greenys is to be totally irresponsible.

Any amateur psychologists here? If so you should be asking, "Were you
the type of child that used to be naughty in order to gain attention?"
Curiously no. I was a greatly loved child who got all the attention a
boy could possibly want. I only turned into a bad person when I
discovered this newsgroup.

Bill

OT bags
 

tim...... wrote:

It's if they start to charge 5p for the ones that are no damned use for
anything once you get them home that will annoy me

To be fair the very thin ones do serve as emergency rubber johnnies. But
if you fasten it on with an elastic band don't forget to take it off after.

Bill

OT bags
 

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

Mine broke the lid off my brown food recycling container this week.
That's the second one they've done it to.
So, I completed the job and smashed the whole thing properly into
lots of bits and chucked it in the non-recyclables bin.
The food waste is going in there too from now on.

They kick the plastic boxes hard and send then skating across the
concrete towards the lorry. The boxes have cracked sides and abraded
bottoms.

Bill

OT bags
 

tim...... wrote:

but some things are necessary

use once bags are not

tim
That's a typical greeny 'we know best' argument. It's up to me to decide
what I find necessary in my life, not you. Given the minuscule
environmental impact of a plastic bag the individual should be allowed
to decide for himself. There are so many things we do that have a far
greater environmental impact than plastic bags, and plastic bags are so
much more useful than many of those things.

Bill

OT bags
 

Tim+ wrote:

Bill

Oh for FFS! Do you *really* think that reusing carrier bags is responsible
for food poisoning? Really scraping the barrel now.

Tim

Having spent some time recently (of necessity) learning about food
hygiene, I'd say that the reuse of carrier bags if the contents are
inadequately individually wrapped or bagged is a severe risk. Even if
they are the daily re-use of the same bag carries risks unless the bag
is thoroughly washed after every trip.

Bill

OT bags
 

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:52:03 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

In terms of single-use bags used the figures so far released for the
first three month period the usage seems to have dropped to about 25% of
what it was. On the basis of casual observation in the supermarket,
convenience stores and shops that I use I'd estimate the drop to be much
greater. People are using either their own bags or multiple-use bags
sold by the retailers, or are carrying small numbers of items unbagged.
Which is very unhygienic. I wonder what is the environmental cost of one
attack of food poisoning.

It isn't unhygienic because bags used for health or safety reasons are
exempt from the levy.

quote
A single use carrier bag of any material and of any size is exempt from
the charging requirement if it is used solely to contain one or more of
the following unpackaged items:

* food for human or animal consumption – for example loose fruit and
vegetables and bread and other baked goods.

* loose seeds, bulbs, corms or rhizomes;

* axes, knives, and knife or razor blades; and

* goods contaminated by soil – for example vegetables or pot
plants.
endquote from:
http://www.doeni.gov.uk/guidance_on_...__ni__2013.pdf



meat?

Bill

OT bags
 

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Just proving what an arsehole you can be.

That's unworthy of you.

Bill

OT bags
 

Bill Wright wrote:
Tim+ wrote:

Bill
Oh for FFS! Do you *really* think that reusing carrier bags is responsible
for food poisoning? Really scraping the barrel now.
Tim

Having spent some time recently (of necessity) learning about food
hygiene, I'd say that the reuse of carrier bags if the contents are
inadequately individually wrapped or bagged is a severe risk. Even if
they are the daily re-use of the same bag carries risks unless the bag is
thoroughly washed after every trip.

Bill

What *could* happen in theory is a very long way removed from what happens
in practice.

Tim