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BBC Confirmation of new HD services
Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
Yawn.
Really, how nice. I only get sd stuff, seems no real point to getting an hd system for me! Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 09/12/2013 10:52, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yawn. Really, how nice. I only get sd stuff, seems no real point to getting an hd system for me! No there's not, but actually it's not mandatory to reply to any posts that have no relevance or interest to you as an individual, confirming that. rolls eyes -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:18:43 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Good. Those satphone news uplinks will look so much better in HD. :) |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. Good news, especially re the news. Might invest in a Freeview HD recorder (TV already does Freesat HD) |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote:
Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Clem |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote:
On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 15:21, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, True, but there's still the thorny issue of having a grouped aerial in play. I think that the aerial might be an Antiference TC18/B. Oddly, it's good at picking-up Bilsdale group A stuff off the back of the aerial, so it'll be interesting to see what a re-tune brings. Still annoying though. Clem |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote:
Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 I note the comment "It’s constraints around spectrum and costs that mean that this new HD capacity won’t cover the whole UK...". We'll be missing out with Rowridge on BBC4, BBC News, and CBeebies, unfortunately. I see we'll be getting Al Jazeera in HD, though! Do you happen to know if it's spectrum or costs with Rowridge which limits HD capacity? Is interference to/from France a contributory factor? -- Jeff |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 16:32, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 I note the comment "It’s constraints around spectrum and costs that mean that this new HD capacity won’t cover the whole UK...". We'll be missing out with Rowridge on BBC4, BBC News, and CBeebies, unfortunately. I see we'll be getting Al Jazeera in HD, though! Do you happen to know if it's spectrum or costs with Rowridge which limits HD capacity? Is interference to/from France a contributory factor? Rowridge is down to carry Mux 7 (and therefore AL Jazz, and BBC 4, and News HD) in 2014, sometime before the summer. Ch 31, at 23kW, where did you see it wasn't ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
"Clem Dye" wrote in message ... On 09/12/2013 15:21, Mark Carver wrote: On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, True, but there's still the thorny issue of having a grouped aerial in play. I think that the aerial might be an Antiference TC18/B. Oddly, it's good at picking-up Bilsdale group A stuff off the back of the aerial, so it'll be interesting to see what a re-tune brings. Still annoying though. Clem ***** Might get the Bilsdale version? Regards David |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
"Clem Dye" wrote in message ... On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Clem I made the same 'mistake' re Winter Hill, replacing two group C/D aerials on our blocks during the last decade - the second in 2009 just as we went digital (on the SAME band). Not they have shifted the programs to lower frequencies - grrrr! Still working [just], but with a six way amp for our block and a four way passive split in my flat, the S/N is not good at the furthest end :-(( |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 15:15:42 +0000, Clem Dye
wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Don't rush into it. Black Hill is also on channel 32 and I have a Band B aerial. It works fine (tested using Aljazeera, which has started already). |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 16:32:34 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 I note the comment "It’s constraints around spectrum and costs that mean that this new HD capacity won’t cover the whole UK...". We'll be missing out with Rowridge on BBC4, BBC News, and CBeebies, unfortunately. I see we'll be getting Al Jazeera in HD, though! Do you happen to know if it's spectrum or costs with Rowridge which limits HD capacity? Is interference to/from France a contributory factor? I thought Aljazeera was on the same multiplex and BBC Four/CBeebies and BBC News. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
"Clem Dye" wrote in message
... On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp whereas the pre-DSO DTTB was only 8.7KWerp. Even if your aerial is down a bit in band A, with almost 3dB greater power and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
Woody wrote:
Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp It's running at 50kW actually, all but one of the originally targeted ERPs for Mux 7 have been increased (some substantially) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, I'm going to hoist myself onto the roof and install a log for Emley and one for Bilsdale and one for Belmont. Bill |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
Clem Dye wrote:
On 09/12/2013 15:21, Mark Carver wrote: On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, True, but there's still the thorny issue of having a grouped aerial in play. I think that the aerial might be an Antiference TC18/B. Oddly, it's good at picking-up Bilsdale group A stuff off the back of the aerial, so it'll be interesting to see what a re-tune brings. Still annoying though. My ch32 on a Gp B is about 2.5dB down compared to what it would be on a wideband. Bill |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 09/12/2013 16:42, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/12/2013 16:32, Jeff Layman wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 I note the comment "It’s constraints around spectrum and costs that mean that this new HD capacity won’t cover the whole UK...". We'll be missing out with Rowridge on BBC4, BBC News, and CBeebies, unfortunately. I see we'll be getting Al Jazeera in HD, though! Do you happen to know if it's spectrum or costs with Rowridge which limits HD capacity? Is interference to/from France a contributory factor? Rowridge is down to carry Mux 7 (and therefore AL Jazz, and BBC 4, and News HD) in 2014, sometime before the summer. Ch 31, at 23kW, where did you see it wasn't ? It was at http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/coveragechecker/ I put in my postcode and a postcode in central Southampton (I'm a lot further out), and checked in the "Channels available at your address -Future 2014 - High Definition" section. That was early this afternoon. I just tried it again, and this time all 10 HD channels have appeared! Most odd - I didn't make a mistake, as I did not recognise the icon for Al Jazz and had to magnify it to see what it was (I thought it might have been Channel 5!). There were definitely only 7 channels shown in my earlier checks for both postcodes. -- Jeff |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp It's running at 50kW actually, all but one of the originally targeted ERPs for Mux 7 have been increased (some substantially) Oops! That's what becomes of believing what UKFree says about it! That means that it is 7.6dB above the pre-DSO powers, so even roll-off in the aerial banding should make little or no difference if he was able to receive Emley pre-DSO. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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In message , Bill Wright
writes Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 15:21, Mark Carver wrote: On 09/12/2013 15:15, Clem Dye wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Emley Moor is carrying Mux 7 at 50kW, so only 5.5dB down on the other muxes at 174kW. You might be OK, True, but there's still the thorny issue of having a grouped aerial in play. I think that the aerial might be an Antiference TC18/B. Oddly, it's good at picking-up Bilsdale group A stuff off the back of the aerial, so it'll be interesting to see what a re-tune brings. Still annoying though. My ch32 on a Gp B is about 2.5dB down compared to what it would be on a wideband. As the LF roll-off of the Gp B is likely to be relatively gentle (compared with the HF roll-off), how far would Ch32 be likely to be compared with (say) Ch 39? -- Ian |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
In message , Woody
writes "Clem Dye" wrote in message ... On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...eebies-HD-BBC- Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp whereas the pre-DSO DTTB was only 8.7KWerp. Even if your aerial is down a bit in band A, with almost 3dB greater power and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) Geordie telly? The local NE and Cumbria news rarely rises beyond Durham City, and extends down past York. Most of it is from Middlesborough and British West Hartlepool. -- Ian |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 09/12/2013 16:42, Mark Carver wrote: Rowridge is down to carry Mux 7 (and therefore AL Jazz, and BBC 4, and News HD) in 2014, sometime before the summer. Ch 31, at 23kW, where did you see it wasn't ? It was at http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/coveragechecker/ I put in my postcode and a postcode in central Southampton (I'm a lot further out), and checked in the "Channels available at your address -Future 2014 - High Definition" section. That was early this afternoon. I just tried it again, and this time all 10 HD channels have appeared! Most odd - I didn't make a mistake, as I did not recognise the icon for Al Jazz and had to magnify it to see what it was (I thought it might have been Channel 5!). There were definitely only 7 channels shown in my earlier checks for both postcodes. I suspect because the Beeb hadn't officially confirmed the launch of their HD services until 9am this morning, the DUK site didn't mention them, someone must have been busy all day today updating the checker ! All's well, that ends well -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 19:15:19 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote: On 09/12/2013 16:42, Mark Carver wrote: On 09/12/2013 16:32, Jeff Layman wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/CBBC-HD-CBeebies-HD-BBC-Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 I note the comment "It’s constraints around spectrum and costs that mean that this new HD capacity won’t cover the whole UK...". We'll be missing out with Rowridge on BBC4, BBC News, and CBeebies, unfortunately. I see we'll be getting Al Jazeera in HD, though! Do you happen to know if it's spectrum or costs with Rowridge which limits HD capacity? Is interference to/from France a contributory factor? Rowridge is down to carry Mux 7 (and therefore AL Jazz, and BBC 4, and News HD) in 2014, sometime before the summer. Ch 31, at 23kW, where did you see it wasn't ? It was at http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/coveragechecker/ I put in my postcode and a postcode in central Southampton (I'm a lot further out), and checked in the "Channels available at your address -Future 2014 - High Definition" section. That was early this afternoon. I just tried it again, and this time all 10 HD channels have appeared! Most odd - I didn't make a mistake, as I did not recognise the icon for Al Jazz and had to magnify it to see what it was (I thought it might have been Channel 5!). There were definitely only 7 channels shown in my earlier checks for both postcodes. Here the new COM7 mux with HD versions of BBC News, BBC4, Cbeebies and Al Jazeera is on ch33 from Divis. I tried tuning it earlier today but there was no signal. It is no switched on and I've tuned successfully. The message on BBC News HD (LCN107) says "Watch here from 8:30am Tuesday 10th December". Al Jazeera in HD is already being broadcast on LCN108. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in
message ... In message , Woody writes "Clem Dye" wrote in message .. . On 09/12/2013 10:18, Mark Carver wrote: Posted this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...eebies-HD-BBC- Three-HD-BBC-Four-HD-and-BBC-News-HD-to-launch-on-Tuesday-10-December-2013 Annoying choice of UHF channel for Emley Moor users. Group B for everything, except BBC4HD, which is stuck on CH32, firmly in Group A, and on a much lower power. I strongly resisted a wideband aerial at the time I had my TV aerial installed a couple of years back, going for a grouped aerial. That in hindsight, looks like a distinct mistake, although at that power level it's unlikely that I'd receive BBC4HD on channel 32 at my location. Grrrr. Nicely thought out. Not. Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp whereas the pre-DSO DTTB was only 8.7KWerp. Even if your aerial is down a bit in band A, with almost 3dB greater power and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) Geordie telly? The local NE and Cumbria news rarely rises beyond Durham City, and extends down past York. Most of it is from Middlesborough and British West Hartlepool. -- It may extend down beyond York but there's nobody there watching it! I was up near Helmsley yesterday and any property that was elevated and/or had a clear view SW-ish had Emley aerials - and Bilsdale is LoS for most of that area. I pity the poor sods wholive even insome parts of northern Harrogate who have no option but to watch TTTV. Oh, and don't mention the monkey. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Woody wrote:
Geordie telly? The local NE and Cumbria news rarely rises beyond Durham City, and extends down past York. Most of it is from Middlesborough and British West Hartlepool. -- It may extend down beyond York but there's nobody there watching it! I was up near Helmsley yesterday and any property that was elevated and/or had a clear view SW-ish had Emley aerials - and Bilsdale is LoS for most of that area. I've just spent a few days in York. I was particularly interested in the Emley/Bilsdale split. The only aerials I saw that were using Bilsdale were in locations where Emley would have been difficult due to local obstructions. I didn't see a single 'voluntary' Bilsdale aerial. Not one. On the blocks of flats that now despoil the city all the aerials I saw were on Emley. One of these was a huge high gain thing, swaying alarmingly atop a fifteen foot mast (it was windy). The location was screened from Emley, but must have had clear LOS to Bilsdale. Curiously the DAB aerial was aligned on Bilsdale. Since the cultural and intellectual divide between God's County and Geordieland is greater than that between England and Scotland I can't see why Bilsdale doesn't transmit two sets of channels, like Caldbeck. Bill |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp It's running at 50kW actually, all but one of the originally targeted ERPs for Mux 7 have been increased (some substantially) Which is the odd one out? And where can I find out the actual power on Mux 7 at Crystal Palace (Channel 33)? Looks like the first of the new BBC services has started programmes now, CBeebies HD showing Tikkabilla since 6 am on Channel 74. |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: Geordie telly? The local NE and Cumbria news rarely rises beyond Durham City, and extends down past York. Most of it is from Middlesborough and British West Hartlepool. -- It may extend down beyond York but there's nobody there watching it! I was up near Helmsley yesterday and any property that was elevated and/or had a clear view SW-ish had Emley aerials - and Bilsdale is LoS for most of that area. I've just spent a few days in York. I was particularly interested in the Emley/Bilsdale split. The only aerials I saw that were using Bilsdale were in locations where Emley would have been difficult due to local obstructions. I didn't see a single 'voluntary' Bilsdale aerial. Not one. On the blocks of flats that now despoil the city all the aerials I saw were on Emley. One of these was a huge high gain thing, swaying alarmingly atop a fifteen foot mast (it was windy). The location was screened from Emley, but must have had clear LOS to Bilsdale. Curiously the DAB aerial was aligned on Bilsdale. Since the cultural and intellectual divide between God's County and Geordieland is greater than that between England and Scotland I can't see why Bilsdale doesn't transmit two sets of channels, like Caldbeck. I have lived in beautiful downtown Harrogate for 23 years and it is the very question that I have been asking since I arrived. Even Sky saw sense about five years ago and stopped insisting local residents had to watch TTTV even though they got BBC from Leeds. Have you also noticed Bill that more and more of Look North is coming from parts of North Yorkshire where viewers cannot and never have been able to receive Leeds - places like Whitby, Hawes, etc. Could it have anything to do with the fact that a significant number of the presenters live in York? -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Freesat 212 showing a slide saying it is on from 08:30 am. with BBC News.
Any idea why this is? Such a strange time to me. Yes both BBC Children's on now on Freesat. Any new non-BBC started or due on Freesat? Regards David |
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On 10/12/2013 06:13, Stephen wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Woody wrote: Simple question: were you able to receive DTTV from Emley before DSO, or even DSO1 - say six years ago? If so you will have no problem with the new mux as it runs at 16.7KWerp It's running at 50kW actually, all but one of the originally targeted ERPs for Mux 7 have been increased (some substantially) Which is the odd one out? Angus And where can I find out the actual power on Mux 7 at Crystal Palace (Channel 33)? In true obscurification mode, you need to go he- http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ Enter your postcode and house number, and tick the 'Detailed View' box Then hover over the channel number of Mux 7 CP, and it will reveal the Tx mode and ERP. Last time I looked it was 36.3 kW -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 10/12/2013 07:23, David wrote:
Freesat 212 showing a slide saying it is on from 08:30 am. with BBC News. Any idea why this is? Such a strange time to me. 08:30 is when News 24 cuts away from simulcasting the fluff that is BBC 1 Breakfast, so perhaps to avoid confusion they are waiting until then to switch on the HD version ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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"David" wrote in message
... Freesat 212 showing a slide saying it is on from 08:30 am. with BBC News. Any idea why this is? Such a strange time to me. BBC News Channel splits from BBC Breakfast at 8.30am. I guess they wanted to launch it in HD with the actual news channel, rather than BBC 1 from Salford. The BBC News Channel studio is actually off the air between 1.00 am and 8.30 am. The channel takes BBC World from 1 till 6, then BBC Breakfast from Salford from 6 till 8.30. (.. only 15 minutes to go till it starts !) Yes both BBC Children's on now on Freesat. Any new non-BBC started or due on Freesat? Regards David |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:48:32 -0000, "Woody"
wrote: [...] and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) Geordie? Teesside isn't Geordie, and Bilsdale is south of there. Rod. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
In article ,
Mark Carver wrote: http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ Enter your postcode and house number, and tick the 'Detailed View' box What is a "reception change" likely to be? For example, put in 2, EH8 9LW and look at COM7 on Black Hill. It's forecast to have much worse reception from 2014. Presumably it's not 4G interference as it's channel 32. -- Richard |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:29:31 -0000, "Woody"
wrote: I pity the poor sods wholive even insome parts of northern Harrogate who have no option but to watch TTTV. Oh, and don't mention the monkey. You're not thinking of Hartlepool are you? I know they both begin with H but they're different places. Rod. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On 10/12/2013 09:55, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article , Mark Carver wrote: http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ Enter your postcode and house number, and tick the 'Detailed View' box What is a "reception change" likely to be? For example, put in 2, EH8 9LW and look at COM7 on Black Hill. It's forecast to have much worse reception from 2014. Presumably it's not 4G interference as it's channel 32. No, it'll be the launch of another Mux 7 Tx that could lead to increased co channel interference, in your case probably the launch of Durris, also on Ch 32 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
In message , Roderick
Stewart writes On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:48:32 -0000, "Woody" wrote: [...] and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) Geordie? Teesside isn't Geordie, and Bilsdale is south of there. Yebbut..... Bilsdale, Pontop Pike and Chatton (and their relays) all carry the same BBC NE and Cumbria programming. While the local news from York is undoubtedly very interesting, it's of little importance to people some of whom are up to 150 miles away. -- Ian |
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On 10/12/2013 10:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
Geordie? Teesside isn't Geordie, and Bilsdale is south of there. Yebbut..... Bilsdale, Pontop Pike and Chatton (and their relays) all carry the same BBC NE and Cumbria programming. While the local news from York is undoubtedly very interesting, it's of little importance to people some of whom are up to 150 miles away. Agreed. Though since Oxford was added to the BBC South region, there's the same situation, people in Banbury and Aylesbury get news about places that are nothing more than potential holiday locations for them. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 07:46:47 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: On 10/12/2013 07:23, David wrote: Freesat 212 showing a slide saying it is on from 08:30 am. with BBC News. Any idea why this is? Such a strange time to me. 08:30 is when News 24 cuts away from simulcasting the fluff that is BBC 1 Breakfast, so perhaps to avoid confusion they are waiting until then to switch on the HD version ? I started a timed recording about 8:25. The subtitles from BBC One were also on the News HD channel for a short while before any live video appeared. -- |
BBC Confirmation of new HD services
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:52:39 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:48:32 -0000, "Woody" wrote: [...] and the fact that T2 doesn't actually need so much signal anyway you should be OK - especially as it seems to work off Bilsdale (who wants to watch Geordie telly anyway?!!) Geordie? Teesside isn't Geordie, and Bilsdale is south of there. Bilsdale is also in Yorkshire by about 10 miles, closer to York and Harrogate than Durham. There is no question whatsoever that 100% of the 'local' output from the BBC and ITV, transmitted by a transmitter situated well within the county boundaries, is irrelevant to anyone residing in North Yorkshire. -- |
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