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Paul Ratcliffe December 13th 13 08:17 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 18:59:04 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

I've got one fork for digging the garden and another for eating my dinner.
Would you advocate I throw one away and use the other for both tasks?


How big's tha gob?


Not as big as tha's (I hope that's acceptable use of Yorkshire - I only
lived there for 3 years, so I'm obviously not as skilled as you).

charles December 13th 13 09:32 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
charles wrote:


there have been other, less publicised, moves with similar results


Please tell.


Many main stations with either new masts or new aerials or new masts caused
serious localised problems.

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Bill Wright[_2_] December 13th 13 10:45 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 18:59:04 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

I've got one fork for digging the garden and another for eating my dinner.
Would you advocate I throw one away and use the other for both tasks?

How big's tha gob?


Not as big as tha's (I hope that's acceptable use of Yorkshire - I only
lived there for 3 years, so I'm obviously not as skilled as you).


Nay lad, tha shoulda said 'Norras big as thine'. It would be optional to
add, 'Tha fat pillock.'

Bill

Mark Carver December 13th 13 10:49 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
On 13/12/2013 15:33, Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

That's a good idea, and then I suppose you could carry every regional
version of a channel, and choose to watch whatever version you like,
regardless of location.


No, there isn't the bandwidth. Each TV channel needs 8MHz remember.


Oh that's easy, just throw away most of the detail in the signal,
plenty of room.


Would this not be a good time to re-introduce System A?


Some might say (unkindly IMHO) that we've just about restored definition to
that level with HD.



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Bill Wright[_2_] December 13th 13 10:53 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
Mark Carver wrote:

Would this not be a good time to re-introduce System A?


Some might say (unkindly IMHO) that we've just about restored definition
to that level with HD.


I'd rather watch a decent 405 line mono picture than some of the lousy
pictures we get nowadays. I don't remember being actually pained by 405
line pictures.

Bill

Mark Carver December 13th 13 10:54 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
charles wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
charles wrote:


there have been other, less publicised, moves with similar results


Please tell.


Many main stations with either new masts or new aerials or new masts caused
serious localised problems.


Wasn't there a problem at Dover after an aerial refurb or replacement ?



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Mark
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Ian Jackson[_2_] December 13th 13 11:32 PM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
In message , Bill Wright
writes
Mark Carver wrote:

Would this not be a good time to re-introduce System A?

Some might say (unkindly IMHO) that we've just about restored
definition to that level with HD.


I'd rather watch a decent 405 line mono picture than some of the lousy
pictures we get nowadays. I don't remember being actually pained by 405
line pictures.

Because of the differences in the horizontal scan speed (15625 scans per
second vs 10125), the horizontal definition of 5(.5)MHz bandwidth
625-lines is not much better than that of the 3MHz bandwidth 405-lines.
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Ian

Phil Cook[_2_] December 14th 13 02:21 AM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
On 13/12/2013 21:45, Bill Wright wrote:
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 18:59:04 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

I've got one fork for digging the garden and another for eating my dinner.
Would you advocate I throw one away and use the other for both tasks?
How big's tha gob?


Not as big as tha's (I hope that's acceptable use of Yorkshire - I only
lived there for 3 years, so I'm obviously not as skilled as you).


Nay lad, tha shoulda said 'Norras big as thine'. It would be optional to
add, 'Tha fat pillock.'


Oi, will da pair o' wazzocks gi'oer!
--
Phil Cook

Roderick Stewart[_3_] December 14th 13 11:13 AM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:59:29 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:


except that "broadcasting" is an efficent ay of getting programmes to the
customers. If everybody had their own dedicated "line" to some master
computer that would be very inefficient.


That's the way it's going though. While it might be inefficient to
plan a broadcasting system on the basis of individual connections, if
such a system or its equivalent is already there, even if it was put
in place for other purposes, then if it also happens to be capable of
handling broadcasting services it makes perfect sense to use it. From
the customers' point of view it makes no sense to have two different
sets of equipment, one for communications and one for entertainment,
if one can do the lot.


I've got one fork for digging the garden and another for eating my dinner.
Would you advocate I throw one away and use the other for both tasks?


If it were capable of performing both tasks, why not? I have a tiny
suspicion, however, that you're just being silly.

Broadcast transmission systems and computer networks systems actually
have some common capabilities in real life, rather than simply the
common feature of being named with the same word.

Rod.

Roderick Stewart[_3_] December 14th 13 11:16 AM

BBC Confirmation of new HD services
 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:53:47 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

I'd rather watch a decent 405 line mono picture than some of the lousy
pictures we get nowadays. I don't remember being actually pained by 405
line pictures.


I remember being pained by the noise the line scanning components
made, but I expect we could do that a bit better with modern
electronics, and I'm older now, so probably wouldn't hear it anyway.

Rod.


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