Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:09:15 +0000, Wilf wrote:

On 04/12/2013 10:11, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 21:36:40 +0000, lid wrote:

On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:25:17 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message ,
lid writes
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:58:35 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 03/12/2013 09:51, Zimmy wrote:
On 03/12/2013 09:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 03/12/2013 09:14, Zimmy wrote:

It isn't a Scottish infrastructure. It is a UK infastructure.

Only for a few things, all the council services are Scottish already,
NHS is Scottish, education system is Scottish, legal system is Scottish,
etc.

Even the stuff that isn't different from England generally has local
offices with Scottish people working there, do you think that they would
all have to relocate to England if there is independence?

Self sufficient for electricity then ? No need for those cross border
400kv lines ?


No need for self-sufficiency, so no need to remove them. Do you think
the UK is self-sufficient for all its energy needs?

No, it's certainly not !! Well, good luck then ! ;-)

There is a huge money flow across the border from England to subsidise
the uneconomic Scottish wind farms. That should stop right away.

There is a huge money flow across the border from Scotland in the form
of North Sea oil revenues. That should stop right away.

You'll certainly need it.

So does England.

Yeah, but there's a huge flow of tax revenue across the border INTO
Scotland compared with other regions of the UK. What will the Scots do
if they gain independence and stop getting their hands on money
hard-earned by their English former compatriots?

I'm not sure about "huge".

Central taxes, income tax, VAT, etc, are collected from the whole of the
UK by the Treasury in London (via HM Revenue and Customs) and then
distributed to the spending departments in England, Northern Ireland,
Scotland and Wales.

Sometimes people make the mistake of assuming that all of the money sent
to Scotland from London is a subsidy. It isn't. The subsidy would be the
money sent to Scotland minus the tax revenue collected from people and
businesses in Scotland.

This gives Scotland and UK revenue and expenditure figures for
2010-2011:
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/0038/00389321.pdf

It is complicated.

The UK as whole runs a deficit, expenditure is greater than income. That
has to be taken into account when looking at the difference between
expenditure and income in Scotland. If the percent deficit for Scotland
is similar to that for the UK as a whole then there is no "subsidy" for
Scotland.

I'll leave it to someone good with numbers to analyse the information in
that report. :-)


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Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

In article id, Jeremy
Nicoll - news posts wrote:
lid (Windmill) wrote:

And I notice that in the aftermath of 2007 the bigger losers seem to
have been Scottish banks...

Do you mean previously-Scottish?

while I know that BoS (with whom I still bank) was 'merged' with (taken
over by) the Halifax Building Society, The Royal is surely a Scottish
business - its headquarters are just to the west of Edinburgh? I may have
bouht in English Bank and a Dutch one, but that doesn't change its
nationality, does it?

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Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

charles wrote:

In article id, Jeremy
Nicoll - news posts wrote:
lid (Windmill) wrote:

And I notice that in the aftermath of 2007 the bigger losers seem to
have been Scottish banks...

Do you mean previously-Scottish?

while I know that BoS (with whom I still bank) was 'merged' with (taken
over by) the Halifax Building Society,

And then taken over by LTSB...

The Royal is surely a Scottish business - its headquarters are just to
the west of Edinburgh? I may have bouht in English Bank and a Dutch one,
but that doesn't change its nationality, does it?

Until it's no longer owned mainly by the /UK/ tax-payer, I'd say there's an
element of doubt.

--
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Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

In article ,
August West wrote:

The entity calling itself charles wrote:

while I know that BoS (with whom I still bank) was 'merged' with (taken
over by) the Halifax Building Society, The Royal is surely a Scottish
business - its headquarters are just to the west of Edinburgh? I may
have bouht in English Bank and a Dutch one, but that doesn't change its
nationality, does it?

In as much as RBS Group PLC (the head company of the group, which
contains 16 subsidiaries (includi g RBS PLC, which has 127 subsidiaries)
is a company registered in Scotland, with its HQ in central Edinburgh
(St Andrew Sq, not to the West), yes.

Buit all UK companies operate under the same legal regime, and
relocation from Scotland to England is a trivial paper excercise. So,
until Scotland actually becomes independent, labeling a ompany
Scottish or English is pretty much meaningless.

Scottish Law and English law are different in a number of way. Company
Registration is different. I don't think the paper exercise would be that
trivial.

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Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

Jeremy Nicoll - news posts writes:

(Windmill) wrote:

And I notice that in the aftermath of 2007 the bigger losers seem to have
been Scottish banks...

Do you mean previously-Scottish?

:-(

And the effect on the Scottish economy must I think be very serious.

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Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

On 04/12/2013 12:05, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:09:15 +0000, Wilf wrote:

Yeah, but there's a huge flow of tax revenue across the border INTO
Scotland compared with other regions of the UK. What will the Scots do
if they gain independence and stop getting their hands on money
hard-earned by their English former compatriots?

Be better off?

Well I wish them good luck and goodbye if they want it.

--
Wilf

Scottish TV at the expense of the English and Welsh
 

On 07/12/2013 11:02, Wilf wrote:
On 04/12/2013 12:05, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:09:15 +0000, Wilf wrote:

Yeah, but there's a huge flow of tax revenue across the border INTO
Scotland compared with other regions of the UK. What will the Scots do
if they gain independence and stop getting their hands on money
hard-earned by their English former compatriots?

Be better off?

Well I wish them good luck and goodbye if they want it.


We'll still be living next door so I hope we can still be friends :-)

Z