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Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill
Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. |
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message ... Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. ****** That seems a bit strange as on Freesat 106 is BBC3. (BBC4 is 107). It is about time the broadcaster got their heads together and got some sense into the numbering systems. Regards David |
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On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. There is CBeebies HD on satellite at the moment: 1920*1080i25 11023Mhz and called 8932 -- Michael Chare |
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On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:47:50 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:
On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. Yes indeed - that's where the best proggies are. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Which transmitters will carry Mux 7? Will Bilsdale? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. I thoroughly agree. |
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On 26/11/2013 18:25, NY wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Which transmitters will carry Mux 7? Will Bilsdale? Yep ! Angus Beacon Hill Belmont Bilsdale Black Hill Bluebell Hill Caldbeck Caradon Hill Craigkelly Crystal Palace Darvel Divis Durris Emley Moor Fenham Fenton Hannington Mendip Moel-y-Parc Oxford Pontop Pike Ridge Hill Rowridge Sandy Heath Sheffield (Crosspool) Sutton Coldfield Tacolneston Waltham Wenvoe Winter Hill -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Are BBC 3 and 4 in HD that are being talked about here on Terrestrial on Freesat or limited to Sky maybe? Regards David |
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On 26.11.2013 19:25, NY wrote:
Which transmitters will carry Mux 7? Will Bilsdale? Yes, although with only 17.8 kW on ch31. An overview with a map showing all transmitters planned for the MUXes 7&8 is available at http://www.a516digital.com/2013/02/w...-channels.html, and an update at http://www.a516digital.com/2013/09/f...equencies.html .. Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. I thoroughly agree. +1 Regards, Uli |
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On 26/11/2013 19:12, David wrote:
Are BBC 3 and 4 in HD that are being talked about here on Terrestrial on Freesat or limited to Sky maybe? They will be FTA on satellite, so available on Freesat, Sky, or any other vanilla sat box. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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"PeterC" wrote in message
.. . On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:47:50 +0000, Mark Carver wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. Yes indeed - that's where the best proggies are. -- Yes but you have to remember two things: 1 What age range is BBC3 aimed at? 2 What age range run the BBC these days? I rest my case M'Lud. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Mark Carver wrote:
They will be FTA on satellite, so available on Freesat, Sky, or any other vanilla sat box. Careful, you'll have him painting it. Bill |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:32:58 -0000, "David" wrote:
Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. ****** That seems a bit strange as on Freesat 106 is BBC3. (BBC4 is 107). It is about time the broadcaster got their heads together and got some sense into the numbering systems. Yes, it would have been slightly more logical if BBC3 had been 107 and BBC4 had been 109, as this would have kept the pattern of just adding 100 to the SD channel numbers. Just noticed that Al Jazeera is getting HD on Freeview too, on 108. Rod. |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:47:50 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Just checked channel 32 testing on Black Hill. Signal strength 64% here. No programmes as yet. Nothing on channel 35. Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. Or News Channel, with BBC Three and BBC Four on the new mux? |
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In article ,
Mark Carver wrote: Black Hill was supposed to too ? It has. -- Richard |
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In article ,
Scott wrote: Just checked channel 32 testing on Black Hill. Signal strength 64% here. No programmes as yet. Al Jazeera is broadcasting, same programs as the non-HD version. -- Richard |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:47:50 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. I too would prefer BBC 4 HD. However, BBC 3 seems to have more viewers than BBC 4. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:15:15 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote: In article , Scott wrote: Just checked channel 32 testing on Black Hill. Signal strength 64% here. No programmes as yet. Al Jazeera is broadcasting, same programs as the non-HD version. Just discovered that. BBC Three and Four are not as yet. |
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In message , Mark Carver
writes On 26/11/2013 18:25, NY wrote: "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Which transmitters will carry Mux 7? Will Bilsdale? Yep ! Angus Beacon Hill Belmont Bilsdale Black Hill Bluebell Hill Caldbeck Caradon Hill Craigkelly Crystal Palace Darvel Divis Durris Emley Moor Fenham Fenton Hannington Mendip Moel-y-Parc Oxford Pontop Pike Ridge Hill Rowridge Sandy Heath Sheffield (Crosspool) Sutton Coldfield Tacolneston Waltham Wenvoe Winter Hill CBBCHD on 73 and BBC3HD on105 have appeared from Mendip. -- Ian |
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"NY" wrote in message
o.uk... "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Which transmitters will carry Mux 7? Will Bilsdale? Bilsdale Mux 7: Channel 31, 5kW, Mux 8: Channel 37 5kW, compares with 100kW or 50 kW for the rest, see http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin..._Statement.pdf http://www.ukfree.tv/txdetail.php?a=SE553962 Crystal Palace has this caption on the BBC4 HD channel Coming soon, new HD channels from the BBC: Ch 73 CBBC HD Ch 74 CBeebies HD Ch 105 BBC THREE HD Ch 106 BBC FOUR HD Ch 107 BBC NEWS HD |
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On 26/11/2013 22:07, Scott wrote:
Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. Or News Channel, with BBC Three and BBC Four on the new mux? No, it's BBC 3/CBBC on the existing (PSB 3) mux (replacing BBC i HD Red Button on 303), and BBC 4/CBeebies and News (24) on the new one (Mux 7) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Mark Carver wrote: Yep ! Angus Is there a timetable published with details of the muxes, etc? Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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On 27/11/2013 09:52, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Mark Carver wrote: Yep ! Angus Is there a timetable published with details of the muxes, etc? All that is known so far is that Mux 7 will contain:- BBC 4/Cbeebies HD BBC News HD Al Jazz HD Nothing yet for Mux 8, but this initiate was a joint venture between Arqiva, the BBC and C4, so it's a safe bet to say something like HD versions of M4, E4, Film 4 etc will be coming ? As far launch dates, the only dates available seem to be obtained by looking at the 'Retune' date after sticking in your postcode, house number, and ticking the 'Detailed View' box here http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ Then also if you hover over the UHF allocations, you can see QAM and ERP details. sigh 40 years ago you could just pick up phone to BBC and IBA EIDs, and be told whatever you needed to know, amazing that in 2013 you need to faff about making up postcodes etc -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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On 27/11/2013 12:06, Bob Latham wrote:
According to Digital UK there is a retune event at Sutton Coldfield on 10/12/2013 and other sources suggest that local TV doesn't start until 30/01/2014 so I'm hoping the 10/12/13 event will be for COM7. Yes, Dec 10th seems to be date that other Tx sites launch:- Craigkelly Divis Emley Sandy H Sutton C Wenvoe Significantly, they seem to indicate representation in each UK nation, and of course Emley and Sutton C are the other two of the UK's big four (C Palace and Winter Hill are already running) Rising speculation that Dec 10th will be the official launch date for the new BBC HD channels on DTT and D-Sat ERP for COM7 Sutton is confusing. Most websites say it will be a very weak 6,400 Watts ERP which is 14.9dB down and then of course it is out of band for my group B aerial, looks dodgy. However, the Digital UK site says 81,300 Watts ERP which is just -4dB and much more possible for me I would have thought. I'd like to get that confirmed. Join the club !! That's the only place these 'enhanced' ERPs have been published, but no where else have they been confirmed. I'm a bit suspicious, because all the values are rather 'overaccurate' Why not just say 80kW ? There's a possibilty someone has calulated them from out of date log tables, and an uncalibrtaed slide rule :-) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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"brightside S9" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:06:46 +0000, Roderick Stewart wrote: Finding a display of signal strength and quality on a Samsung "2013 Smart TV" is beyond me! Go into 'Menu' - 'Support' - 'Self Diagnosis'. HTH |
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On 27/11/2013 10:44, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2013 09:52, Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , Mark Carver wrote: Yep ! Angus Is there a timetable published with details of the muxes, etc? All that is known so far is that Mux 7 will contain:- BBC 4/Cbeebies HD BBC News HD Al Jazz HD Nothing yet for Mux 8, but this initiate was a joint venture between Arqiva, the BBC and C4, so it's a safe bet to say something like HD versions of M4, E4, Film 4 etc will be coming ? As far launch dates, the only dates available seem to be obtained by looking at the 'Retune' date after sticking in your postcode, house number, and ticking the 'Detailed View' box here http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ Then also if you hover over the UHF allocations, you can see QAM and ERP details. sigh 40 years ago you could just pick up phone to BBC and IBA EIDs, and be told whatever you needed to know, amazing that in 2013 you need to faff about making up postcodes etc Yes, tried that digitaluk link yesterday for Rowridge. Helpfully provided the detailed information "Retune 2014"! -- Jeff |
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On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. Spiral Season 5 for me ..... Clem |
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:41:18 +0000, Clem Dye
wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Rod. Spiral Season 5 for me ..... Any quality foreign drama with subtitles. The more the merrier. Rod. |
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In article , Bob Latham [email protected]
of-spam.invalid scribeth thus In article , Mark Carver wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. According to Digital UK there is a retune event at Sutton Coldfield on 10/12/2013 and other sources suggest that local TV doesn't start until 30/01/2014 so I'm hoping the 10/12/13 event will be for COM7. ERP for COM7 Sutton is confusing. Most websites say it will be a very weak 6,400 Watts ERP which is 14.9dB down and then of course it is out of band for my group B aerial, looks dodgy. However, the Digital UK site says 81,300 Watts ERP which is just -4dB and much more possible for me I would have thought. I'd like to get that confirmed. I'm probably misunderstanding what I'm reading though, ERP always has me head scratching. Do you mean the term "ERP" and what it means Bob?... Bob. -- Tony Sayer |
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 07:35:31 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote: On 26/11/2013 22:07, Scott wrote: Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. Or News Channel, with BBC Three and BBC Four on the new mux? No, it's BBC 3/CBBC on the existing (PSB 3) mux (replacing BBC i HD Red Button on 303), and BBC 4/CBeebies and News (24) on the new one (Mux 7) But you were saying it would be better to put BBC Four on PSB3 rather than BBC Three and I was counter-proposing that BBC News Channel should be on PSB3. |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
... In article , Bob Latham [email protected] of-spam.invalid scribeth thus In article , Mark Carver wrote: On 26/11/2013 16:57, Roderick Stewart wrote: Just been prompted to do an "add new channels" on Winter Hill Freeview, and found "This is BBC4 HD" on 106, starting soon. So we might get to see some of Borgen in HD, and next year's Proms should look good. Yes, though on DTT it's on the new Mux 7, only going to be available from 30 sites, not the other 1124 that carry the main HD mux. Belmont and CP have also launched Mux 7 today, Black Hill was supposed to too ? Unfortunately it's BBC 3 HD that will be on the 'universal' HD Mux, better if it had been BBC 4 HD instead IMHO. According to Digital UK there is a retune event at Sutton Coldfield on 10/12/2013 and other sources suggest that local TV doesn't start until 30/01/2014 so I'm hoping the 10/12/13 event will be for COM7. ERP for COM7 Sutton is confusing. Most websites say it will be a very weak 6,400 Watts ERP which is 14.9dB down and then of course it is out of band for my group B aerial, looks dodgy. However, the Digital UK site says 81,300 Watts ERP which is just -4dB and much more possible for me I would have thought. I'd like to get that confirmed. I'm probably misunderstanding what I'm reading though, ERP always has me head scratching. Do you mean the term "ERP" and what it means Bob?... Bob. Is it possible that there is some confusion here between the radiated power for the new local TV franchise and for COM7? Per the comment about aerial banding, I'm not quite sure what is happening. At SC local TV is in-band at 51, but Com7 and Com 8 are both out of band in the 30's. At EM local TV will be on 56 which is out of band one way and, like SC, com7 and com8 will be in the 30's. Another interesting one, Bilsdale, suggests that them that knows best haven't thought it through properly. Middlesbrugh and York are both getting local TV and both will be broadcast on directional aerials ('petals' as they call them) from Bilsdale. The problem is that most viewers in York watch Yorkshire from Emley and not Tyne Tees from Bilsdale, which means that if they want to watch local TV they will have to erect a new additional aerial. Oh yes, I think NOT. However York used to have local analogue TV which was radiated from aerials on top of a water tower on the SW edge of the city area at Askam Bryan (for those looking, in the NW corner of the A64/A1237 junction) and on one of the few points of raised land in the Vale of York. Those aerials are not only still there, but for most viewers in York they would be within the beamwidth of a yagi pointed at Emley. You couldn't make it up could you? -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Is it possible that there is some confusion here between the radiated power for the new local TV franchise and for COM7? Per the comment about aerial banding, I'm not quite sure what is happening. At SC local TV is in-band at 51, but Com7 and Com 8 are both out of band in the 30's. At EM local TV will be on 56 which is out of band one way and, like SC, com7 and com8 will be in the 30's. Another interesting one, Bilsdale, suggests that them that knows best haven't thought it through properly. Middlesbrugh and York are both getting local TV and both will be broadcast on directional aerials ('petals' as they call them) from Bilsdale. The problem is that most viewers in York watch Yorkshire from Emley and not Tyne Tees from Bilsdale, which means that if they want to watch local TV they will have to erect a new additional aerial. Oh yes, I think NOT. However York used to have local analogue TV which was radiated from aerials on top of a water tower on the SW edge of the city area at Askam Bryan (for those looking, in the NW corner of the A64/A1237 junction) and on one of the few points of raised land in the Vale of York. Those aerials are not only still there, but for most viewers in York they would be within the beamwidth of a yagi pointed at Emley. You couldn't make it up could you? Seems to me the whole things a big joke and will never make any money. Even if it did stand a chance its now years too late.. Too much viewing competition.. -- Tony Sayer |
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On 28/11/2013 09:28, Bob Latham wrote:
I'm trying to overcome my pessimistic character and be optimistic about this. In the preDSO days the muxes on Sutton were I think 8KW ERP. There were 5 or 6 of them and analogue and there was also muxes from satellites like Brierley Hill without interfering with somewhere else. OK, some frequencies can no longer be used but now the whole of the West Midlands is to be covered by one transmitter on an 'out of group' channel. And, they propose less power than the preDSO muxes. I presume it is a case of where in the country is C33 used where this signal could interfere especially to the south west of Sutton which I think is where most of its signal is steered? 6K4W would be pretty poor IMHO and I question if it would be worth the bother for the number of people who could and would use the service. I don't think I could pull that in being out of band as well. Well, Sutton C was testing on 33 and 35 yesterday afternoon, (with blank carriers) vanished again at 4:30pm, but worth a try now, (if your receiver can 'see' blank carriers (some can't)) Indications are the power was at a 'healthy level' http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1914449 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Woody wrote:
Another interesting one, Bilsdale, suggests that them that knows best haven't thought it through properly. Middlesbrugh and York are both getting local TV and both will be broadcast on directional aerials ('petals' as they call them) from Bilsdale. The problem is that most viewers in York watch Yorkshire from Emley and not Tyne Tees from Bilsdale, which means that if they want to watch local TV they will have to erect a new additional aerial. Oh yes, I think NOT. See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Local%20TV.jpg However York used to have local analogue TV which was radiated from aerials on top of a water tower on the SW edge of the city area at Askam Bryan (for those looking, in the NW corner of the A64/A1237 junction) and on one of the few points of raised land in the Vale of York. Those aerials are not only still there, but for most viewers in York they would be within the beamwidth of a yagi pointed at Emley. See http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/askham-bryan.php You couldn't make it up could you? No you couldn't. Presumably the TV company will squeal until OFCOM let them braodcast from Askham Bryan as well as Bilsdale. I wonder who owns the Askham Bryan equipment. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Woody wrote: Another interesting one, Bilsdale, suggests that them that knows best haven't thought it through properly. Middlesbrugh and York are both getting local TV and both will be broadcast on directional aerials ('petals' as they call them) from Bilsdale. The problem is that most viewers in York watch Yorkshire from Emley and not Tyne Tees from Bilsdale, which means that if they want to watch local TV they will have to erect a new additional aerial. Oh yes, I think NOT. See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Local%20TV.jpg It's a great shame that the geography of North Yorkshire precludes a lot of it from receiving Yorkshire regional TV eg from Emley Moor, and that the best high ground for transmitting to North Yorkshire can also serve the south Tyne Tees area so they choose to transmit Tyne Tees news from there. If only Bilsdale could transmit more directionally, with an additional transmitter to serve the Newcastle-centred areas further north. Where I am (near Malton) it's frustrating that Whitwell Hill blocks the Emley Moor signal so I can't get BBC and ITV news from Leeds. I doubt whether the local TV beam from Bilsdale will spread far enough eastwards to reach me. Mind you, I wonder what the quality of the local TV programmes will be like. When I used to live near Abingdon I could receive Six TV (local Oxford TV) and the technical and production standards were very poor - as if made using cheap domestic camcorders and with very uneven studio lighting. And the local news bulletins were hilarious: one newsreader had trouble reading the autocue and sat frozen like a tharn (*) rabbit caught in the headlights while mumbling away. A classic case of pay-peanuts-get-monkeys! (*) Tharn - a word that Richard Adams invented in Watership Down to describe a rabbit that sits transfixed in the path of oncoming danger. The only good thing from Six TV was the excellent nature / country-living series presented by the cute Sasha Norris. However York used to have local analogue TV which was radiated from aerials on top of a water tower on the SW edge of the city area at Askam Bryan (for those looking, in the NW corner of the A64/A1237 junction) and on one of the few points of raised land in the Vale of York. Those aerials are not only still there, but for most viewers in York they would be within the beamwidth of a yagi pointed at Emley. See http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/askham-bryan.php You couldn't make it up could you? No you couldn't. Presumably the TV company will squeal until OFCOM let them braodcast from Askham Bryan as well as Bilsdale. I wonder who owns the Askham Bryan equipment. Bill |
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... "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Woody wrote: Another interesting one, Bilsdale, suggests that them that knows best haven't thought it through properly. Middlesbrugh and York are both getting local TV and both will be broadcast on directional aerials ('petals' as they call them) from Bilsdale. The problem is that most viewers in York watch Yorkshire from Emley and not Tyne Tees from Bilsdale, which means that if they want to watch local TV they will have to erect a new additional aerial. Oh yes, I think NOT. See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Local%20TV.jpg It's a great shame that the geography of North Yorkshire precludes a lot of it from receiving Yorkshire regional TV eg from Emley Moor, and that the best high ground for transmitting to North Yorkshire can also serve the south Tyne Tees area so they choose to transmit Tyne Tees news from there. If only Bilsdale could transmit more directionally, with an additional transmitter to serve the Newcastle-centred areas further north. Where I am (near Malton) it's frustrating that Whitwell Hill blocks the Emley Moor signal so I can't get BBC and ITV news from Leeds. I doubt whether the local TV beam from Bilsdale will spread far enough eastwards to reach me. Mind you, I wonder what the quality of the local TV programmes will be like. When I used to live near Abingdon I could receive Six TV (local Oxford TV) and the technical and production standards were very poor - as if made using cheap domestic camcorders and with very uneven studio lighting. And the local news bulletins were hilarious: one newsreader had trouble reading the autocue and sat frozen like a tharn (*) rabbit caught in the headlights while mumbling away. A classic case of pay-peanuts-get-monkeys! (*) Tharn - a word that Richard Adams invented in Watership Down to describe a rabbit that sits transfixed in the path of oncoming danger. The only good thing from Six TV was the excellent nature / country-living series presented by the cute Sasha Norris. However York used to have local analogue TV which was radiated from aerials on top of a water tower on the SW edge of the city area at Askam Bryan (for those looking, in the NW corner of the A64/A1237 junction) and on one of the few points of raised land in the Vale of York. Those aerials are not only still there, but for most viewers in York they would be within the beamwidth of a yagi pointed at Emley. See http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/askham-bryan.php You couldn't make it up could you? No you couldn't. Presumably the TV company will squeal until OFCOM let them braodcast from Askham Bryan as well as Bilsdale. I wonder who owns the Askham Bryan equipment. Bill Have a look at http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/UKTerrestrialTVTest.html It might give you an option. Given where you are I can understand you not wanting to watch Lovely Peter Levey on BBC Yorks & Lincs but have you tried maybe Sheffield or Olivers Mount at Scarborough? There is a simple alternative - Freesat and give it a Leeds postcode. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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On 28/11/2013 12:34, Bob Latham wrote:
In article , Mark Carver wrote: Well, Sutton C was testing on 33 and 35 yesterday afternoon, (with blank carriers) vanished again at 4:30pm, but worth a try now, (if your receiver can 'see' blank carriers (some can't)) Indications are the power was at a 'healthy level' http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1914449 Hey Mark thanks for the info and the link, very good of you. Can't try it at the moment i'm not home and I've got to change the aerial down lead filter as the current one blocks 37 and below. I've had one made for sutton by taylors and hopefully I can set it up on Saturday. Good news if the power is healthy though. Very it would seem. Indoor aerial in Broadway ! :- http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=26 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Woody wrote:
Where I am (near Malton) it's frustrating that Whitwell Hill blocks the Emley Moor signal so I can't get BBC and ITV news from Leeds. Have a look at http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/UKTerrestrialTVTest.html It might give you an option. Given where you are I can understand you not wanting to watch Lovely Peter Levey on BBC Yorks & Lincs but have you tried maybe Sheffield Crosspool received near Malton? No chance at all, even if there was no CCI. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: Where I am (near Malton) it's frustrating that Whitwell Hill blocks the Emley Moor signal so I can't get BBC and ITV news from Leeds. Have a look at http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/UKTerrestrialTVTest.html It might give you an option. Given where you are I can understand you not wanting to watch Lovely Peter Levey on BBC Yorks & Lincs but have you tried maybe Sheffield Crosspool received near Malton? No chance at all, even if there was no CCI. Bill The OP said that he couldn't get EM as Whitwell Hill is in the way. That suggests that he lives either on the SW side of Malton or even out of Malton towards Whitwell. That land is somewhat elevated so I would have thought there was a good possibility of something from Crosspool. Either that or Waltham!! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Woody wrote:
The OP said that he couldn't get EM as Whitwell Hill is in the way. That suggests that he lives either on the SW side of Malton or even out of Malton towards Whitwell. That land is somewhat elevated so I would have thought there was a good possibility of something from Crosspool. Not a prayer. Bill |
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