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Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so
loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Derek F" wrote in message ... Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn Derek |
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On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian Its not just a TV problem as most Movies are just as bad. British stage actors used to have voices that carried without the need of electronics. We went to see Dame Judy in a play and sitting in the rear of the circle it was a struggle to hear her. Derek |
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"Derek F" wrote in message
... On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote: Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian Its not just a TV problem as most Movies are just as bad. British stage actors used to have voices that carried without the need of electronics. We went to see Dame Judy in a play and sitting in the rear of the circle it was a struggle to hear her. I'd rather have actors and actresses speaking in normal (but audible, intelligible) voices than have them straining to project their voices to the back of a theatre without the aid of amplification. A projected voice never sounds natural. |
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In article , Brian Gaff
wrote: Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian In contrast, some of the recent 'Tony Robinson presented' items on C4 in recent years have all the voiceovers dynamically auto-level compressed to the max, so seem like 'shouting' all the time he does them. As with the above example, I have to assume no-one producing them ever bothers to listen to the result. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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NY wrote: I'd rather have actors and actresses speaking in normal (but audible, intelligible) voices than have them straining to project their voices to the back of a theatre without the aid of amplification. A projected voice never sounds natural. You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-) -- *Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Two different things. You can drown out any voice with too loud music and
or effects. Mumbling can be difficult to understand on its own. It's definitely not helped by pretty well all TV drama these days using personal mics buried beneath layers of ordinary clothing. Nothing much you can do about poorly recorded sound. And than add in the poor sound systems on most tellies. -- *If God had wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-) I agree with that point. Whenever I go to the theatre I am struck by how unnatural all the acting is. In my experience they *always* project their voices, and they always make larger-than-life movements. It has to be that way - you would never normally observe or interact with people a hundred feet or more away. That's why I dislike the theat the actors don't act, they perform. Television and film are far more intimate. Sophie Grabol (The Killing) does such subtle, and superb, face acting that the only way to see it is when her face fills the whole screen. Michael Kitchen (Foyle's War) is another masterful TV actor in much the same way. I love that kind of acting. I haven't seen Grabol or Kitchen in a theatre, but I'm sure both must "enlarge" their acting into full-blown performances. Inevitably this makes it less natural. -- SteveT |
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Steve Thackery wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: You want things in a theatre to be natural? ;-) I agree with that point. Whenever I go to the theatre I am struck by how unnatural all the acting is. In my experience they *always* project their voices, and they always make larger-than-life movements. It has to be that way - you would never normally observe or interact with people a hundred feet or more away. Quite. It's how it has always been. That's why I dislike the theat the actors don't act, they perform. Television and film are far more intimate. I can enjoy both sorts. Sophie Grabol (The Killing) does such subtle, and superb, face acting that the only way to see it is when her face fills the whole screen. Michael Kitchen (Foyle's War) is another masterful TV actor in much the same way. I love that kind of acting. I haven't seen Grabol or Kitchen in a theatre, but I'm sure both must "enlarge" their acting into full-blown performances. Inevitably this makes it less natural. Remember going to see French and Saunders in a play wot they wrote. They both mumbled to the point none of our (youngish) group could hear much of what they said. So most of us simply slept through it, and demanded our money back afterwards. Got it too. -- *Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?" Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote:
Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian maybe you have (a) not very good speakers in your tv or (b) not very good ears. just a thought :) -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
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"the dog from that film you saw"
wrote in message ... On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote: Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian maybe you have (a) not very good speakers in your tv or (b) not very good ears. just a thought :) There's no doubt that speakers make a huge difference. We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. The difference in quality and audibility was amazing - plus there was/is no need to have it anything like so loud - and the sound on the Sharp is pretty good anyway! What was noticable was/is that the dynamic range is much less than expected and there is no need to keep adjusting the volume levels. Thinking about a simple similar solution for our bedroom TV now! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Woody wrote:
We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome radio works fine straight from the telly. Bill |
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Woody wrote: maybe you have (a) not very good speakers in your tv or (b) not very good ears. just a thought :) There's no doubt that speakers make a huge difference. As does how the voices are recorded - as I keep on saying. When last did you have problem understanding voices on R4? Even when they are the same actors you have problems with on TV. FFS, even newsreaders on BBC TV - wearing an exposed personal mic - often sound like they're speaking through layers of cloth. A combination of (possibly) microphones which are out of spec and a sound mixer who either doesn't know how to eq a mic properly, or doesn't care. That's assuming there actually is still some human involvement. -- *I don't work here. I'm a consultant Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome radio works fine straight from the telly. Bill The TV switches to headphone mode with a considerably reduced output as soon as a plug is inserted. It surprised me as well - given the amp needed 30dB of gain! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... As does how the voices are recorded - as I keep on saying. When last did you have problem understanding voices on R4? Even when they are the same actors you have problems with on TV. Close-miked radio presenters are fine. But Radio 4 are very bad at matching the level of studio voices with those outside contributors, especially those using inferior lines such as landline or mobile telephones, although even high-quality live reports are often much louder or quieter than the studio. BBC TV news doesn't seem to suffer from that problem, although I agree that the quality of the newsreaders' personal mikes can sometimes be a bit woolly. One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. Maybe for TV newsreaders, the mikes have a poorer HF response so the sibilance of some voices is lessened. Plays on R4 are completely different kettle of fish: they seem to suffer from distant-mike syndrome which causes much more variation in the level of an actor's voice from one word to another, making it quite difficult to listen to for any time because you are alternately being deafened or having to strain to hear some words, depending on whether they are on-mike or not at that moment. |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome radio works fine straight from the telly. Audio (line) inputs are usually low level high impedance, and headphone outputs are medium level low impedance. The impedance mismatch compensates for the level mismatch, avoiding overload. I always just plug the headphone outputs of various MP3 players straight into various amplifier inputs without trouble. -- Max Demian |
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On 19/07/2013 09:37, NY wrote:
"Derek F" wrote in message ... On 19/07/2013 08:43, Brian Gaff wrote: Its not just actors is it. On some recent Horizon episodes the music was so loud I could not hear the carefully chosen sound bytes from scientists I'd never heard of at all. Brian Its not just a TV problem as most Movies are just as bad. British stage actors used to have voices that carried without the need of electronics. We went to see Dame Judy in a play and sitting in the rear of the circle it was a struggle to hear her. I'd rather have actors and actresses speaking in normal (but audible, intelligible) voices than have them straining to project their voices to the back of a theatre without the aid of amplification. A projected voice never sounds natural. It has made stage acting the same as movie acting. How long before someone starts making stage plays more dramatic by adding music:-) Derek |
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NY wrote: One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. What are you listening on? Maybe for TV newsreaders, the mikes have a poorer HF response so the sibilance of some voices is lessened. A personal mic is simply in the wrong place for decent audio quality. Although this does vary from person to person. But the frequency response of the individual mic (eq) should be adjusted for each and every presenter, etc. Plays on R4 are completely different kettle of fish: they seem to suffer from distant-mike syndrome which causes much more variation in the level of an actor's voice from one word to another, making it quite difficult to listen to for any time because you are alternately being deafened or having to strain to hear some words, depending on whether they are on-mike or not at that moment. Strange. I listen to the afternoon play most days and have never noticed this. They can and do have a reasonable dynamic range, though, which is how it should be done. -- *Procrastinate now Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 19/07/2013 11:14, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:46:17 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Two different things. You can drown out any voice with too loud music and or effects. Mumbling can be difficult to understand on its own. It's definitely not helped by pretty well all TV drama these days using personal mics buried beneath layers of ordinary clothing. Nothing much you can do about poorly recorded sound. And than add in the poor sound systems on most tellies. The head of RADA complained about mumbling actors some weeks ago. In 2011 we went to see Keira Knightley and Elizabeth Moss in Children's Hour at the Comedy Theatre. Their idea of stage acting was to strut, stamp, wave their arms about and shout with pained expressions on their faces. By contrast the two older more experienced stage actors (evidently not allowed to call them actresses now) Bryony Hannah believably went through a wide range of emotions playing the part of a schoolgirl. One was inclined to watch her movements and expression even when the leading ladies were were doing their stuff. Ellen Burstyn gave a beautiful performance here as good as any she has done in all of her years on screen. As one reviewer said that is the difference between a celluloid mannequin and a top-flight stage actress when praising Bryony Hannah. Derek |
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Max Demian wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Woody wrote: We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome radio works fine straight from the telly. Audio (line) inputs are usually low level high impedance, and headphone outputs are medium level low impedance. The impedance mismatch compensates for the level mismatch, avoiding overload. I always just plug the headphone outputs of various MP3 players straight into various amplifier inputs without trouble. I have two Sony tellys (both fairly new) with their headphone sockets feeding audio amps. No problems. In one case I went for ages with the audio to the amp coming from the TV set's accompanying Humax box, aware of the slight lipsync issue but couldn't be arsed to do anything about it. Then, inexplicably, the lipsync error suddenly because gross, so I had to go find a 3.5mm stereo jack to twin phone patch cord. Bill |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
... "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Woody wrote: We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone socket of our Sharp 19" TV. I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome radio works fine straight from the telly. Audio (line) inputs are usually low level high impedance, and headphone outputs are medium level low impedance. The impedance mismatch compensates for the level mismatch, avoiding overload. I always just plug the headphone outputs of various MP3 players straight into various amplifier inputs without trouble. -- Max Demian Er, where did you learn your 'lectronics Max? Normal format is low impedence out, high impredence in as you say. The input will thus not load the output in any way and there will be no level change as a consequence. In fact as the headphone output is not loaded (usually expected to be between 32R and 330R these days) the actual signal voltage available would be higher than expected when loaded. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , NY wrote: One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. What are you listening on? I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap portable through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which cheaper kit suppresses. Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than Charlotte Green. |
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Woody wrote:
Er, Anyway, how's it going Woody? Has she said you're getting in her way and given you a tenner to go down the pub yet? Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Woody wrote: Er, Anyway, how's it going Woody? Has she said you're getting in her way and given you a tenner to go down the pub yet? Bill Nah, been away in't van since the event and she's starving me - OK I get told off if she finds me eating choc biscuits - with the intent of weight reduction. 4lbs in three weeks seems good and I'm not missing the snacks, still drinking though!! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. |
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:39:07 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. er, hear hear! On most studio programmes I can have the sound on the telly at 12 - 14% (bit more as the day progresses - perhaps my hearing needs an afternoon nap nowadays), but some films, drama and older programmes need the AVR, a grotesque preset to give preference to speech and 40% or even more (Stargate SG1 for instance). -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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NY wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , NY wrote: One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. What are you listening on? I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap portable through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which cheaper kit suppresses. Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than Charlotte Green. I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I tend to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver which is suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or distortion elsewhere in the chain. Since the reproduction of those frequencies will vary dramatically from one system to another, I think we must be talking about a different thing. -- *Dance like nobody's watching. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , NY wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , NY wrote: One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. What are you listening on? I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap portable through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which cheaper kit suppresses. Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than Charlotte Green. I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I tend to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver which is suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or distortion elsewhere in the chain. sometimes sibilance is caused by poor audio amplifier performance. Early Ampex VTRs suffered in this way. Certain female voices are particularly successful in setting the effect off and many voices become sibilant after taking a drink (it doesn't have to be alcoholic). I've heard that problem within a local radio studio building - no off air path. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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charles wrote: I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I tend to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver which is suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or distortion elsewhere in the chain. sometimes sibilance is caused by poor audio amplifier performance. Early Ampex VTRs suffered in this way. Certain female voices are particularly successful in setting the effect off and many voices become sibilant after taking a drink (it doesn't have to be alcoholic). I've heard that problem within a local radio studio building - no off air path. It's also common practice to EQ a mic in such a way as to emphasise the presence frequencies which will include the 'S'. But the only time I've heard a problem with this on R4 is with faulty reception or equipment. And I listen to R4 a great deal. -- *Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon scribeth thus On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. JOOI have you had it tested in recent years?. There is a dip in peoples hearing when they are getting on a bit that can have quite an effect in that area.. Do agree about production standards tho;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
... On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or 'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only said once. A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story. -- Max Demian |
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In message , Max Demian
writes "Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or 'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only said once. A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story. My wife has tinnitus, and has to use subtitles all the time. I have pretty good hearing, but I too am starting to use subtitles (if available). I also usually watch a recording of the programme (more often than not a watch-and-record) so I can go back and re-hear the mumbly bits. Unfortunately, a lot of the subtitles are total rubbish - especially (but not only) when the programme is live. The BBC is particularly bad, but the ITV and other channels are now also learning the art of adding gibberish text. -- Ian --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
... In message , Max Demian Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or 'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only said once. A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story. My wife has tinnitus, and has to use subtitles all the time. I have pretty good hearing, but I too am starting to use subtitles (if available). I also usually watch a recording of the programme (more often than not a watch-and-record) so I can go back and re-hear the mumbly bits. Unfortunately, a lot of the subtitles are total rubbish - especially (but not only) when the programme is live. The BBC is particularly bad, but the ITV and other channels are now also learning the art of adding gibberish text. Jonathan Creek had lumps missing from the subtitles on Drama. -- Max Demian |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , NY wrote: One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices. What are you listening on? Maybe for TV newsreaders, the mikes have a poorer HF response so the sibilance of some voices is lessened. A personal mic is simply in the wrong place for decent audio quality. Although this does vary from person to person. But the frequency response of the individual mic (eq) should be adjusted for each and every presenter, etc. Many years ago, with my first hi-fi set up, I was a little concerned that a particular LP seemed to exhibit considerable sibilance, and spent some time in a vain attempt to reduce the effect. It was only when I saw the performer live, without PA, that I discovered that my audio kit was faithfully reproducing the original sound. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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Chris J Dixon wrote:
Many years ago, with my first hi-fi set up, I was a little concerned that a particular LP seemed to exhibit considerable sibilance, and spent some time in a vain attempt to reduce the effect. It was only when I saw the performer live, without PA, that I discovered that my audio kit was faithfully reproducing the original sound. I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag containing four bottles of beer. Bill |
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Bill Wright wrote:
I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag containing four bottles of beer. There is a tale of a more rock-oriented sound crew being faced with a folk music group, and having to mike a hurdy gurdy. They spent many minutes on the desk fiddling and tweaking trying to get rid of the buzz. ;-) Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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Chris J Dixon wrote: Bill Wright wrote: I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag containing four bottles of beer. There is a tale of a more rock-oriented sound crew being faced with a folk music group, and having to mike a hurdy gurdy. They spent many minutes on the desk fiddling and tweaking trying to get rid of the buzz. ;-) Rule 1 when required to mic up something you don't know is listen to it first. Saw a pic on Facebook the other day of a guitar speaker with separate amp on top. With the amp miked up... -- *Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:39:07 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F wrote: Is the message at last getting through? http://tinyurl.com/osakepn About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. I'm sure it's not just old age in our household. It's generally the kids that ask for subtitles to be turned on. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:38:29 +0100, tony sayer
wrote: About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades, my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling ******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers. JOOI have you had it tested in recent years?. Last proper test was a decade ago, when I was taking up employment in a very noisy environment (very good protection was provided) and the employer had to make sure exactly what state employees' hearing was in, in case of future hearing loss action. There was a dip in some frequencies, but armed with that knowledge I've been very aware of my state of hearing since then. |
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