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Max Demian July 21st 13 07:39 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or
'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they
have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only
said once.

A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story.

--
Max Demian



Ian Jackson[_2_] July 21st 13 10:45 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In message , Max Demian
writes
"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or
'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they
have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only
said once.

A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story.

My wife has tinnitus, and has to use subtitles all the time. I have
pretty good hearing, but I too am starting to use subtitles (if
available). I also usually watch a recording of the programme (more
often than not a watch-and-record) so I can go back and re-hear the
mumbly bits. Unfortunately, a lot of the subtitles are total rubbish -
especially (but not only) when the programme is live. The BBC is
particularly bad, but the ITV and other channels are now also learning
the art of adding gibberish text.
--
Ian

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Max Demian July 21st 13 11:26 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Max Demian


Most of what the actors are saying doesn't matter as it's just filler or
'character development'. The problem is you can't tell whether what they
have just said is a vitally important part of the plot which will be only
said once.

A lot of TV/film directors just don't know how to tell a story.

My wife has tinnitus, and has to use subtitles all the time. I have pretty
good hearing, but I too am starting to use subtitles (if available). I
also usually watch a recording of the programme (more often than not a
watch-and-record) so I can go back and re-hear the mumbly bits.
Unfortunately, a lot of the subtitles are total rubbish - especially (but
not only) when the programme is live. The BBC is particularly bad, but the
ITV and other channels are now also learning the art of adding gibberish
text.


Jonathan Creek had lumps missing from the subtitles on Drama.

--
Max Demian



Chris J Dixon July 22nd 13 09:19 AM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
NY wrote:
One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant
S sounds, especially on female voices.


What are you listening on?

Maybe for TV newsreaders, the
mikes have a poorer HF response so the sibilance of some voices is
lessened.


A personal mic is simply in the wrong place for decent audio quality.
Although this does vary from person to person. But the frequency response
of the individual mic (eq) should be adjusted for each and every
presenter, etc.

Many years ago, with my first hi-fi set up, I was a little
concerned that a particular LP seemed to exhibit considerable
sibilance, and spent some time in a vain attempt to reduce the
effect.

It was only when I saw the performer live, without PA, that I
discovered that my audio kit was faithfully reproducing the
original sound.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

Bill Wright[_2_] July 22nd 13 02:36 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
Chris J Dixon wrote:

Many years ago, with my first hi-fi set up, I was a little
concerned that a particular LP seemed to exhibit considerable
sibilance, and spent some time in a vain attempt to reduce the
effect.

It was only when I saw the performer live, without PA, that I
discovered that my audio kit was faithfully reproducing the
original sound.


I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string
instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an
amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag
containing four bottles of beer.

Bill

Chris J Dixon July 22nd 13 06:59 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
Bill Wright wrote:

I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string
instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an
amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag
containing four bottles of beer.

There is a tale of a more rock-oriented sound crew being faced
with a folk music group, and having to mike a hurdy gurdy.

They spent many minutes on the desk fiddling and tweaking trying
to get rid of the buzz. ;-)

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

Dave Plowman (News) July 22nd 13 07:52 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:


I had the same experience with some of sounds made by string
instruments, and recently an odd high pitched percussive sound on an
amateur brass band recording was eventually traced to a carrier bag
containing four bottles of beer.

There is a tale of a more rock-oriented sound crew being faced
with a folk music group, and having to mike a hurdy gurdy.


They spent many minutes on the desk fiddling and tweaking trying
to get rid of the buzz. ;-)


Rule 1 when required to mic up something you don't know is listen to it
first.

Saw a pic on Facebook the other day of a guitar speaker with separate amp
on top. With the amp miked up...

--
*Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mark[_13_] July 23rd 13 12:10 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:39:07 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


I'm sure it's not just old age in our household. It's generally the
kids that ask for subtitles to be turned on.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?


Grimly Curmudgeon[_2_] July 28th 13 01:05 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:38:29 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


JOOI have you had it tested in recent years?.


Last proper test was a decade ago, when I was taking up employment in
a very noisy environment (very good protection was provided) and the
employer had to make sure exactly what state employees' hearing was
in, in case of future hearing loss action. There was a dip in some
frequencies, but armed with that knowledge I've been very aware of my
state of hearing since then.


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