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Woody[_4_] July 20th 13 12:38 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Woody wrote:

We changed out caravan late last year and the new one is
fitted with a JVC car radio that has a 3.5mm input socket on
the front. I built a simple preamp, ran cables around inside
the cupboards and left a tail to plug into the headphone
socket of our Sharp 19" TV.


I'm surprised you need a preamp. The 'aux in' on my motorhome
radio works fine straight from the telly.


Audio (line) inputs are usually low level high impedance, and
headphone outputs are medium level low impedance. The impedance
mismatch compensates for the level mismatch, avoiding overload.
I always just plug the headphone outputs of various MP3 players
straight into various amplifier inputs without trouble.

--
Max Demian


Er, where did you learn your 'lectronics Max?

Normal format is low impedence out, high impredence in as you
say. The input will thus not load the output in any way and there
will be no level change as a consequence. In fact as the
headphone output is not loaded (usually expected to be between
32R and 330R these days) the actual signal voltage available
would be higher than expected when loaded.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



NY July 20th 13 07:47 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
NY wrote:
One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying sibilant
S sounds, especially on female voices.


What are you listening on?


I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap portable
through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and
speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the
better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which cheaper
kit suppresses.

Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than
Charlotte Green.


Bill Wright[_2_] July 20th 13 08:44 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
Woody wrote:

Er,


Anyway, how's it going Woody? Has she said you're getting in her way and
given you a tenner to go down the pub yet?

Bill

Woody[_4_] July 20th 13 10:00 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Woody wrote:

Er,


Anyway, how's it going Woody? Has she said you're getting in
her way and given you a tenner to go down the pub yet?

Bill




Nah, been away in't van since the event and she's starving me -
OK I get told off if she finds me eating choc biscuits - with the
intent of weight reduction. 4lbs in three weeks seems good and
I'm not missing the snacks, still drinking though!!



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



Grimly Curmudgeon[_2_] July 20th 13 11:39 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.

PeterC July 21st 13 12:15 AM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:39:07 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


er, hear hear!
On most studio programmes I can have the sound on the telly at 12 - 14% (bit
more as the day progresses - perhaps my hearing needs an afternoon nap
nowadays), but some films, drama and older programmes need the AVR, a
grotesque preset to give preference to speech and 40% or even more (Stargate
SG1 for instance).
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Dave Plowman (News) July 21st 13 12:59 AM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In article ,
NY wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
NY wrote:
One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying
sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices.


What are you listening on?


I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap
portable through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and
speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the
better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which
cheaper kit suppresses.


Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than
Charlotte Green.


I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I tend
to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver which is
suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or distortion
elsewhere in the chain.

Since the reproduction of those frequencies will vary dramatically from
one system to another, I think we must be talking about a different thing.

--
*Dance like nobody's watching.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

charles July 21st 13 08:32 AM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
NY wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
NY wrote:
One thing that R4 suffers badly from is excruciatingly annoying
sibilant S sounds, especially on female voices.

What are you listening on?


I'm encountered it on R4 on a variety of radios, ranging from cheap
portable through car radio to expensive Technics tuner, amplifier and
speakers/headphones, though worst with expensive kit, due maybe to the
better HF response which allows sibilant frequencies through which
cheaper kit suppresses.


Harriet Cass and Corrie Corfield seemed to suffer from it more than
Charlotte Green.


I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I tend
to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver which is
suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or distortion
elsewhere in the chain.



sometimes sibilance is caused by poor audio amplifier performance. Early
Ampex VTRs suffered in this way. Certain female voices are particularly
successful in setting the effect off and many voices become sibilant after
taking a drink (it doesn't have to be alcoholic). I've heard that problem
within a local radio studio building - no off air path.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18


Dave Plowman (News) July 21st 13 12:12 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In article ,
charles wrote:
I'd need your definition of 'sibilant' before commenting further. I
tend to think of it as 'splashy' S sounds - common on an FM receiver
which is suffering from multi-path reception or is poorly designed. Or
distortion elsewhere in the chain.



sometimes sibilance is caused by poor audio amplifier performance. Early
Ampex VTRs suffered in this way. Certain female voices are particularly
successful in setting the effect off and many voices become sibilant
after taking a drink (it doesn't have to be alcoholic). I've heard that
problem within a local radio studio building - no off air path.


It's also common practice to EQ a mic in such a way as to emphasise the
presence frequencies which will include the 'S'.

But the only time I've heard a problem with this on R4 is with faulty
reception or equipment. And I listen to R4 a great deal.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

tony sayer July 21st 13 04:38 PM

Mumbling actors and loud musc
 
In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon scribeth thus
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:15:41 +0100, Derek F
wrote:

Is the message at last getting through?
http://tinyurl.com/osakepn


About bloody time. Even though affected a bit by accumulated decades,
my hearing is still pretty good and I was seriously wondering if it
had got worse in some frequencies because of that shower of mumbling
******* and their demonic meeja-studies graduate producers.


JOOI have you had it tested in recent years?. There is a dip in peoples
hearing when they are getting on a bit that can have quite an effect in
that area..

Do agree about production standards tho;!..
--
Tony Sayer



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