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In article ,
Martin wrote:
Ah. You're talking about the talent, not staff?

I used to get a generous fixed daily allowance when working a way from
home. It wouldn't cover £650/night accommodation like Tom Jones stays
in.

But you're not a superstar.

--
*WHERE DO FOREST RANGERS GO TO "GET AWAY FROM IT ALL?"

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Martin wrote:
Ah. You're talking about the talent, not staff?

I used to get a generous fixed daily allowance when working a way from
home. It wouldn't cover £650/night accommodation like Tom Jones stays
in.

But you're not a superstar.


Of course he is.

--
JohnT

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Martin wrote:


The BBC isn't a company.

Yes it is:

BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Company No. RC000057

It is a special type of company, a Royal Charter company, but it is
still a company on the Companies House register.

There is also one with company number NF002275 in Belfast. That is
described as "other type of company". I'm not sure what the NF prefix
signifies.

Other Royal Charter companies are the public universities, Oxford and
Cambridge colleges, some public schools (e.g. Harrow), some hospitals,
and the learned and worshipful ssocieties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._royal_charter

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:54:03 +0100, David Woolley
wrote:

Martin wrote:


The BBC isn't a company.

Yes it is:

BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Company No. RC000057

It is a special type of company, a Royal Charter company, but it is
still a company on the Companies House register.

There is also one with company number NF002275 in Belfast. That is
described as "other type of company". I'm not sure what the NF prefix
signifies.

A bit of judicious Googling has shown that the NF prefix is for the
Northern Ireland office of an overseas company.

Information gleaned from:
http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/inf...Business.shtml

I don't know the details of the BBC's subsidiaries and which one might
be registered outside the UK with an office in Belfast.


Other Royal Charter companies are the public universities, Oxford and
Cambridge colleges, some public schools (e.g. Harrow), some hospitals,
and the learned and worshipful ssocieties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._royal_charter

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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:36:50 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Martin
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:38:23 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


So by avoiding such hypothications the Government can play games with
the amount of money and its assignment whilst obfuscating so the public
can't check what the politicians / civil servants / etc claim.

It's not difficult to find the military budget as a proportion of the
total budget.

Such aggregated values can then be treated by government as 'unofficial
estimates' and dismissed as 'inaccurate, misleading, out of date' and so
on. The point here is plausible (in legal terms) deniability and to respond
with aloof dismissal. It all aids goverment to duck issues they want to
avoid. And as has been pointed out, to let them use the money however they
choose without people peering over their shoulder and being able to see all
their sums.

All made much easier in these days of PFIs, outsourcing, agencies, etc. The
quickness of the hand fools they eye...

And proper financial accountabilty would be more democratic. The
Politicians want to create an illusion of democracy thats all.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:53:22 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:32:56 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:36:50 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Martin
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:38:23 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


So by avoiding such hypothications the Government can play games with
the amount of money and its assignment whilst obfuscating so the public
can't check what the politicians / civil servants / etc claim.

It's not difficult to find the military budget as a proportion of the
total budget.

Such aggregated values can then be treated by government as 'unofficial
estimates' and dismissed as 'inaccurate, misleading, out of date' and so
on. The point here is plausible (in legal terms) deniability and to respond
with aloof dismissal. It all aids goverment to duck issues they want to
avoid. And as has been pointed out, to let them use the money however they
choose without people peering over their shoulder and being able to see all
their sums.

All made much easier in these days of PFIs, outsourcing, agencies, etc. The
quickness of the hand fools they eye...

And proper financial accountabilty would be more democratic. The
Politicians want to create an illusion of democracy thats all.

The current politicians are an illusion.

If only. They'd do less harm.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

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In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:11:39 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Martin wrote:
Ah. You're talking about the talent, not staff?

I used to get a generous fixed daily allowance when working a way from
home. It wouldn't cover £650/night accommodation like Tom Jones stays
in.

But you're not a superstar.

How do you know?

Superstars don't get fixed daily allowances. That's for monkeys - not
organ grinders.

--
*A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:43:52 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:11:39 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article , Martin
wrote:
Ah. You're talking about the talent, not staff?

I used to get a generous fixed daily allowance when working a way
from home. It wouldn't cover £650/night accommodation like Tom
Jones stays in.

But you're not a superstar.

How do you know?

Superstars don't get fixed daily allowances. That's for monkeys - not
organ grinders.

It depends on the contract.

Quite. And the likes of Tom Jones will have a contract which doesn't
specify a Holiday Inn.

--
*Why is the third hand on the watch called a second hand?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article ,
Martin wrote:
Quite. And the likes of Tom Jones will have a contract which doesn't
specify a Holiday Inn.

Paid for out of the £10 million budget.

Likely.

I had a contract that didn't specify where I stayed or how I spent the
daily allowance. It was more than enough to cover staying for two
months in the second most expensive motel/hotel in Los Angeles.

Sounds like your company was happy to waste money too. Especially on oily
rags.

--
*Where there's a will, I want to be in it.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:38:23 +0000 (GMT)
Jim Lesurf wrote:

In article , Martin
wrote:


Funding from the infrastructure is not done on a daily basis,
except perhaps in Greece at the moment. The Dutch policy of not
collecting taxes separately for individual items used by most of
the population works well. I'm amazed the coalition hasn't gone
that way to reduce costs.

It may be because UK governments/parliament tend to say that they hate
'hypoticated' taxes'. i.e. The idea that a specific identifiable
portion of your tax bill is for a specific purpose.

Yes, we do have it in a sense already in 'National Insurance' but
they seem to feel that has been kept distinct enough to calm their
fear.

The basis of the fear seems twofold.

1) That some people might then start to withold the portion for
something they object to - e.g. Trident replacement.

2) That people will notice that benefits and taxes generally evade
specifying the real costs they are (supposedly) based upon. - e.g.
benefit payments for daily living fail to indicate how much is for
food, etc.

So by avoiding such hypothications the Government can play games with
the amount of money and its assignment whilst obfuscating so the
public can't check what the politicians / civil servants / etc claim.

Slainte,

Jim


Remember when the 'Road Fund License' suddenly just became another
tax? From then on, it could be used for anything, not just road repair.
Not even road repair, it seems locally.
--
Davey.