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My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary
DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David |
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 10:33:11 +0100
"David" wrote: My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David I can't answer your question, but you might want to look at www.dvdoverseas.com and see what they say, they specialise in this kind of thing. They are based near Chicago, and ship overseas. Hope this helps. -- Davey. |
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:33:09 +0100, Davey
wrote: Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Yes. Richer Sounds. From about £70. They no longer seem to have the Toshiba one I got, but there are several others by Panasonic that are described as multi-region. Beware, Blu-Ray players can also play DVDs (and CDs), but sometimes the multi-region capability only applies to DVDs. Maybe the Blu-Ray region coding is more difficult to crack. My Toshiba player will play all disks, but you have to change the code in the menu for Blu-Ray manually every time you want to play a disk from a different region. Richer Sounds are very honest and straightforwards about exactly what their descriptions mean, so it's worth asking them. Rod. |
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:33:09 +0100, Davey wrote: Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Yes. Richer Sounds. From about £70. They no longer seem to have the Toshiba one I got, but there are several others by Panasonic that are described as multi-region. Beware, Blu-Ray players can also play DVDs (and CDs), but sometimes the multi-region capability only applies to DVDs. Maybe the Blu-Ray region coding is more difficult to crack. My Toshiba player will play all disks, but you have to change the code in the menu for Blu-Ray manually every time you want to play a disk from a different region. Richer Sounds are very honest and straightforwards about exactly what their descriptions mean, so it's worth asking them. Rod. ******* I did e-mail RS and they gave prompt response saying they do not do Blue ray multi region players. Thanks David |
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On 15/05/2013 10:33, David wrote:
My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David keep in mind that a lot of american blu rays will actually be region free - more than in the dvd days. there are websites out there that will advise you on specific titles. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
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"David" wrote:
My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. -- Hate the belief, love the believer. |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "David" wrote: My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. -- ******** Can you recall approx cost and how much you paid in to post Office when they delivered it in duty? Regards David |
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"David" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ... "David" wrote: My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. It was less than £40. It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more to pay on arrival. -- Hate the belief, love the believer. |
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I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and
taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. It was less than £40. It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more to pay on arrival. ++++++++++++++++++ You were lucky - my in laws have sent me stuff (e.g. Minnesotta Vikings jacket) which was stopped by Parcel Force on behalf of UK customs and with the import duty and the "handling fee" (and the import duty cannot be in advance to avoid this) the cost of the jacket almost doubled. It's very hit-and-miss as to what they decide to stop, but having things sent to a home address (instead of c/o a place of work for example) seems to help. rant I find it disgusting that even if I want to pay import duty in advance, I can't. Instead I am forced to pay excessive "handling charges" to someone like Parcel Force. I don't import to avoid buying from the UK, I import stuff that cannot be purchased in the UK or I receive genuine gifts from my in-laws. /rant Paul DS. |
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:28:33 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote: It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more to pay on arrival. That's no guarantee of course. I have just received a statement from FedEx complaining that I haven't paid £28.00 I am supposed to owe from 4th March. I suspect that this is duty due on a lens that came from Hong Kong but this is the first I have heard from them about any payment being due. |
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"David" wrote in message ... My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David Sony are long standing pass masters at making you pay their RoB prices for content in the UK. They also repeatedly put malware on their discs: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_rootkit caveat emptor... The only Sony thing I have bought since 2000 is an AV amp, and even that suppresses the component output when HDMI is passed through |
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Adrian wrote:
: I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes : it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. : It was less than £40. It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more : to pay on arrival. Many carrriers (DHL and FedEx for exmaple) will bill you up to a few months later! Unlike the Post Office they don't require payment before delivery! |
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:28:33 +0000 (UTC)
Adrian wrote: "David" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message .... "David" wrote: My Sony Blue ray will only do UK discs but will do multi region ordinary DVDs. I have seen some Blue ray movies I would like but not sold in the UK only as DVDs. From what I gather Sony have made it extremely difficult to multi region players for Blue ray, not a bit like the mass market we have with DVD players that are already MR or you can easily convert with a few presses of remote control keys. Have looked on Ebay, it seems to be only place claiming to sell MR Blue ray players, but on reading several descriptions of products being offered not too sure if they actually do. Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Regards David I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. It was less than £40. It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more to pay on arrival. When we moved back to the UK from Michigan, at the end of our final days there, we had a tube of posters and two large boxes of stuff to ship home using the Post Office. We sent the posters first, to see what was involved, and then the two boxes. One weighed just over 56 lbs, so we had to trim its contents, or it would have had to go via FedEX, at exorbitant cost. When we got home, the poster tube was held back for import duty, although it was the lowest value of the three shipments by far, whereas the two boxes were delivered without question or duty imposition. As the Yanks say: "Go figger". -- Davey. |
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On 15/05/2013 10:33, David wrote:
Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Got a Panasonic from http://www.tps.uk.com/ a few months ago. It's slightly awkward in that you have to reconfigure it by punching in a code on the remote when you want to change between UK and US format disks though. Not particularly cheap either; you'd need to be buying a lot of US BDs to make it cost-effective. -- David |
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 18:44:51 +0100, Lobster
wrote: Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Got a Panasonic from http://www.tps.uk.com/ a few months ago. It's slightly awkward in that you have to reconfigure it by punching in a code on the remote when you want to change between UK and US format disks though. Not particularly cheap either; you'd need to be buying a lot of US BDs to make it cost-effective. The Toshiba player I got from Richer Sounds cost me about £60. It plays any DVD automatically, but Blu-Ray needs to be switched manually, like yours. I think there must be something different about the way region coding is implemented. I was warned never to connect it to the internet, as it might do an automatic firmware update and its capabilities would then revert to the manufacturer's default, removing the multiregion switching. If the makers of Blu-Ray equipment ever succeed in making it impossible to switch between systems, at £60 a go, it will be reasonably cost-effective to buy two players, one for each system. Rod. |
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On 20/05/2013 22:57, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Mon, 20 May 2013 18:44:51 +0100, Lobster wrote: Anyone got a Blue ray player which will will play US and UK discs if so how did you buy it? Can I get one out of the box at reasonable price? Got a Panasonic from http://www.tps.uk.com/ a few months ago. It's slightly awkward in that you have to reconfigure it by punching in a code on the remote when you want to change between UK and US format disks though. Not particularly cheap either; you'd need to be buying a lot of US BDs to make it cost-effective. The Toshiba player I got from Richer Sounds cost me about £60. It plays any DVD automatically, but Blu-Ray needs to be switched manually, like yours. I think there must be something different about the way region coding is implemented. I was warned never to connect it to the internet, as it might do an automatic firmware update and its capabilities would then revert to the manufacturer's default, removing the multiregion switching. +1; although I was just warned to switch off the auto firmware update. In fact I had to upgrade the firmware myself later for some reason, in order to access internet and network services on the player; for this TPS sold me an updated version of the firmware on DVD for a tenner (apparently it has to be personalised for my player); at least it means I can flash my own firmware in future should it ever get accidentally swapped to the manufacturer's version. -- David |
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:57:31 +0100, Lobster
wrote: I was warned never to connect it to the internet, as it might do an automatic firmware update and its capabilities would then revert to the manufacturer's default, removing the multiregion switching. +1; although I was just warned to switch off the auto firmware update. In fact I had to upgrade the firmware myself later for some reason, in order to access internet and network services on the player; for this TPS sold me an updated version of the firmware on DVD for a tenner (apparently it has to be personalised for my player); at least it means I can flash my own firmware in future should it ever get accidentally swapped to the manufacturer's version. Luckily I don't need internet services on my Blu-Ray player as I already have that elsewhere, so it doesn't need to be connected to anything other than the TV set and the hi-fi to do its job. It seems a lot of devices are now equipped for internet access whether they need it or not, even TV sets. I just use my TV set for displaying pictures and the hi-fi system for the sound, as I have for many years. I have a computer for network and internet services, and I just use the disk player for playing disks. Maybe that's a bit old fashioned, but I can do everything I need to do and I know which box does what. Rod. |
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On May 21, 8:28*am, Roderick Stewart
wrote: I just use my TV set for displaying pictures I couldn't imagine *not* having iPlayer on our TV now. Fortunately we have three attached devices - a BluRay player, a Humax PVR and a Wii U games console - which are internet-connected and can all do iPlayer. Richard. |
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It is a real shame that equipment that has the iplayer is limited to the BBC. Regards David |
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"David" wrote in message ...
It is a real shame that equipment that has the iplayer is limited to the BBC. Regards David ++++++++++++++ I think you mean it's a shame that iPlayer is limited to the BBC station, and I totally agree. My experience of iPlayer is that it is far more reliable and happily works with far worse network conditions than the other players. Also, having a single player format would make so much more sense than having competing (and often poor) alternatives. Presumably it would be simple to move content to the iPlayer once all the various contractual agreements were signed, which makes one wonder why the BBC has not cross-licenced this feature to other stations in order to raise revenue. Paul DS. |
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On May 21, 10:37*am, "Paul D Smith" wrote:
having a single player format would make so much more sense than having competing (and often poor) alternatives. YouView? Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ |
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:28:29 +0100
Roderick Stewart wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:57:31 +0100, Lobster wrote: snip Luckily I don't need internet services on my Blu-Ray player as I already have that elsewhere, so it doesn't need to be connected to anything other than the TV set and the hi-fi to do its job. It seems a lot of devices are now equipped for internet access whether they need it or not, even TV sets. I just use my TV set for displaying pictures and the hi-fi system for the sound, as I have for many years. I have a computer for network and internet services, and I just use the disk player for playing disks. Maybe that's a bit old fashioned, but I can do everything I need to do and I know which box does what. Rod. It may be old-fashioned, but it's the way I like things myself. And I don't have a Blu-Ray Player, either. If I want to watch something saved on the PC, but on the TV, I just connect the two with an HDMI cable. If others want something different, fine, but not everybody wants the ultimate system. -- Davey. |
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In article , Paul D Smith
wrote: "David" wrote in message ... It is a real shame that equipment that has the iplayer is limited to the BBC. Regards David ++++++++++++++ I think you mean it's a shame that iPlayer is limited to the BBC station, and I totally agree. My experience of iPlayer is that it is far more reliable and happily works with far worse network conditions than the other players. Also, having a single player format would make so much more sense than having competing (and often poor) alternatives. Presumably it would be simple to move content to the iPlayer once all the various contractual agreements were signed, which makes one wonder why the BBC has not cross-licenced this feature to other stations in order to raise revenue. I'm not sure the BBC 'own' the iPlayer in the sense that it would be required for that. They have to buy in the software and may not even see the source code. So the content copyright(s) may not be the only factor. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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On 21/05/2013 10:50, Richard Russell wrote:
On May 21, 10:37 am, "Paul D Smith" wrote: having a single player format would make so much more sense than having competing (and often poor) alternatives. YouView? Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ wasn't it project kangaroo that wanted to do just that?- and ofcom shot it down as anti-competetive. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 01:15:48 -0700 (PDT), Richard Russell
wrote: I just use my TV set for displaying pictures I couldn't imagine *not* having iPlayer on our TV now. Fortunately we have three attached devices - a BluRay player, a Humax PVR and a Wii U games console - which are internet-connected and can all do iPlayer. Yes, iPlayer is very handy. I've got it on the media centre PC which is connected to the TV, and also on the Freeview HDD recorder. I can't remember whether it was one of the internet things the TV could access on its own, but when I experimented with a temporary ethernet connection to it shortly after I bought it, I found that everything it did with the internet was excruciatingly slow, so I decided not to buy the special expensive wireless dongle and just use the PC. Rod. |
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Brian Mc wrote:
Adrian wrote: I bought an American Blu-ray player from amazon.com with shipping and taxes it cost less than the equivalent player in the UK. It was less than £40. It was delivered by a carrier there was nothing more to pay on arrival. Many carrriers (DHL and FedEx for exmaple) will bill you up to a few months later! Unlike the Post Office they don't require payment before delivery! Well I've had it over a year so I don't think that's likely now. -- Hate the belief, love the believer. |
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
... On Tue, 21 May 2013 01:15:48 -0700 (PDT), Richard Russell wrote: I just use my TV set for displaying pictures I couldn't imagine *not* having iPlayer on our TV now. Fortunately we have three attached devices - a BluRay player, a Humax PVR and a Wii U games console - which are internet-connected and can all do iPlayer. Yes, iPlayer is very handy. I've got it on the media centre PC which is connected to the TV, and also on the Freeview HDD recorder. I can't remember whether it was one of the internet things the TV could access on its own, but when I experimented with a temporary ethernet connection to it shortly after I bought it, I found that everything it did with the internet was excruciatingly slow, so I decided not to buy the special expensive wireless dongle and just use the PC. ++++++++++++ FWIW I've just got a new TV and the internet access is vastly superior to the old one. Still wouldn't fire it up to surf the web, but it does iPlayer etc at a sensible rate now. Paul DS. |
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:27:56 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote: On 21/05/2013 10:50, Richard Russell wrote: On May 21, 10:37 am, "Paul D Smith" wrote: having a single player format would make so much more sense than having competing (and often poor) alternatives. YouView? Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ wasn't it project kangaroo that wanted to do just that?- and ofcom shot it down as anti-competetive. Yes. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...ion-commission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Kangaroo While YouView has a uniform interface with an EPG that looks backwards as well as forwards, the on-demand material comes from the existing separate services: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youview#YouView_Content The on-demand players available are BBC iPlayer (free), 4oD (free), ITV Player (free, ITV plc owned regions and UTV region) or STV Player (free, STV Group owned regions),[1] Demand 5 (free), Milkshake! (free, children's programming from Channel 5) and Now TV (paid for, premium movies). -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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