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rbel[_2_] May 11th 13 08:53 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.
--
rbel

Woody[_4_] May 11th 13 09:05 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
rbel wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness
of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no
dishes
or external aerials problem.
--



They been selling them in France for years but nothing like that
price!






David Woolley[_2_] May 12th 13 12:19 AM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.


It will be a phased array antenna, like the BSB Squarial, which was
introduced in the 1990s to try and get round the limits on permitted
developments, with regard to aerials, in the planning rules. Probably
better described as a rectangrial!

Davey May 12th 13 01:17 AM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On Sat, 11 May 2013 23:19:03 +0100
David Woolley wrote:

rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of
this 'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no
dishes or external aerials problem.


It will be a phased array antenna, like the BSB Squarial, which was
introduced in the 1990s to try and get round the limits on permitted
developments, with regard to aerials, in the planning rules.
Probably better described as a rectangrial!


Sounds like some weird jungle animal from Madagascar.
--
Davey.

Michael Chare[_3_] May 12th 13 01:19 AM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On 11/05/2013 19:53, rbel wrote:

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.


There used to be a disguised dish on this website which was very similar:

http://www.digicams-uk.com/category20_1.htm

--
Michael Chare

Dickie mint[_2_] May 12th 13 02:30 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On 11/05/2013 23:19, David Woolley wrote:
snip
It will be a phased array antenna, like the BSB Squarial, which was
introduced in the 1990s to try and get round the limits on permitted
developments, with regard to aerials, in the planning rules. Probably
better described as a rectangrial!


Changing the subject slightly, on holiday in Lake Garda last month I was
astounded to see what seemed to be a standard TV aerial configuration
there. And also in the wider part of north Italy; seen in Milan,
Verona, Venice and their environs.

A tall pole with dish at the bottom (often squarials - that's where they
all went!) and UHF & VHF aerials. See
http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Rich...tml?sort=2&o=0
for the hotel version. This on in Sirmione, hotel next to ours.

Richard

Brian Gaff May 12th 13 04:12 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
Yes, but presumably, it therefore has only its own lnb wired to the array,
so can it actually handle the polarity switching, and is there any way to
make it have more than one output at a time, or does one need to
rectangrials!

Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 May 2013 23:19:03 +0100
David Woolley wrote:

rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of
this 'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no
dishes or external aerials problem.


It will be a phased array antenna, like the BSB Squarial, which was
introduced in the 1990s to try and get round the limits on permitted
developments, with regard to aerials, in the planning rules.
Probably better described as a rectangrial!


Sounds like some weird jungle animal from Madagascar.
--
Davey.




Woody[_4_] May 12th 13 05:33 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
On 11/05/2013 23:19, David Woolley wrote:
snip
It will be a phased array antenna, like the BSB Squarial,
which was
introduced in the 1990s to try and get round the limits on
permitted
developments, with regard to aerials, in the planning rules.
Probably
better described as a rectangrial!


Changing the subject slightly, on holiday in Lake Garda last
month I was astounded to see what seemed to be a standard TV
aerial configuration there. And also in the wider part of
north Italy; seen in Milan, Verona, Venice and their environs.

A tall pole with dish at the bottom (often squarials - that's
where they all went!) and UHF & VHF aerials. See
http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Rich...tml?sort=2&o=0
for the hotel version. This on in Sirmione, hotel next to
ours.



Actually very common all over Europe - France, Belgium, Germany,
Italy as far as I've seen.

I can never understand why, when people go to the trouble of
putting a structure up to take aerials in this country they don't
put the dish up there as well. Equally if it were up to me I
would ban dishes being mounted on the front of houses where the
roof is a shallow enough angle for the dish to be on a pole on
the back - they are such a blight.



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



Davey May 12th 13 06:21 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On Sun, 12 May 2013 15:12:34 +0100
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Yes, but presumably, it therefore has only its own lnb wired to the
array, so can it actually handle the polarity switching, and is
there any way to make it have more than one output at a time, or does
one need to rectangrials!

Brian


Do two rectangrials equal one Bi-rectangrial?
--
Davey.

Brian Gaff May 12th 13 07:33 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
No a very short Maltese Cross.

Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 May 2013 15:12:34 +0100
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Yes, but presumably, it therefore has only its own lnb wired to the
array, so can it actually handle the polarity switching, and is
there any way to make it have more than one output at a time, or does
one need to rectangrials!

Brian


Do two rectangrials equal one Bi-rectangrial?
--
Davey.




Tim+ May 12th 13 08:18 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.


Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite signals.

Tim

the dog from that film you saw[_3_] May 12th 13 08:35 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On 12/05/2013 19:18, Tim+ wrote:
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.


Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite signals.

Tim



in conservation areas?

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

rbel[_2_] May 12th 13 09:23 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On Sun, 12 May 2013 19:35:06 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 19:18, Tim+ wrote:
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.


Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite signals.

Tim



in conservation areas?


Apart from the legal/rights/conservation area/covenants issue we would
not really want to install a standard satellite dish that did not
blend with its surroundings. The property is in a woodland area with
adjacent public pathways.

We have relied on Freeview ever since we moved here but the trees
between us and the transmitter are still growing and the signal now
breaks up whenever we are on the receiving end of anything more than a
strong breeze, causing reception problems.

Luckily there is a tree free 'window' between 15 and 40 degrees east
of south of the property which could theoretically allow for Freesat
reception.
--
rbel

Woody[_4_] May 13th 13 08:38 AM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
rbel wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 May 2013 19:35:06 +0100, the dog from that film you
saw
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 19:18, Tim+ wrote:
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the
effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our
no dishes
or external aerials problem.

Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide
that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite
signals.

Tim



in conservation areas?


Apart from the legal/rights/conservation area/covenants issue
we would
not really want to install a standard satellite dish that did
not
blend with its surroundings. The property is in a woodland
area with
adjacent public pathways.

We have relied on Freeview ever since we moved here but the
trees
between us and the transmitter are still growing and the signal
now
breaks up whenever we are on the receiving end of anything more
than a
strong breeze, causing reception problems.

Luckily there is a tree free 'window' between 15 and 40 degrees
east
of south of the property which could theoretically allow for
Freesat
reception.
--
rbel




Could you not put the dish at ground level and disguise/hide it
from passing eyes?


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



rbel[_2_] May 13th 13 11:31 AM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
On Mon, 13 May 2013 07:38:07 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

rbel wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 May 2013 19:35:06 +0100, the dog from that film you
saw
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 19:18, Tim+ wrote:
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the
effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our
no dishes
or external aerials problem.

Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide
that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite
signals.

Tim



in conservation areas?


Apart from the legal/rights/conservation area/covenants issue
we would
not really want to install a standard satellite dish that did
not
blend with its surroundings. The property is in a woodland
area with
adjacent public pathways.

We have relied on Freeview ever since we moved here but the
trees
between us and the transmitter are still growing and the signal
now
breaks up whenever we are on the receiving end of anything more
than a
strong breeze, causing reception problems.

Luckily there is a tree free 'window' between 15 and 40 degrees
east
of south of the property which could theoretically allow for
Freesat
reception.
--
rbel




Could you not put the dish at ground level and disguise/hide it
from passing eyes?


Unfortunately the SSE facing 'window' is only available at a height of
2 metres.

--
rbel

tony sayer May 13th 13 01:20 PM

Flat panel satellite dish
 
In article , rbel [email protected]?.?
scribeth thus
On Sun, 12 May 2013 19:35:06 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 12/05/2013 19:18, Tim+ wrote:
rbel wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience the effectiveness of this
'dish'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellite-Di...00319C8W0/ref=

zg_bs_528563031_5
Purely from a looks viewpoint it may help us get around our no dishes
or external aerials problem.

Probably completely wrong but didn't European courts decide that such bans
were illegal. You have a *right* to access satellite signals.

Tim



in conservation areas?


Apart from the legal/rights/conservation area/covenants issue we would
not really want to install a standard satellite dish that did not
blend with its surroundings. The property is in a woodland area with
adjacent public pathways.

We have relied on Freeview ever since we moved here but the trees
between us and the transmitter are still growing and the signal now
breaks up whenever we are on the receiving end of anything more than a
strong breeze, causing reception problems.

Luckily there is a tree free 'window' between 15 and 40 degrees east
of south of the property which could theoretically allow for Freesat
reception.


I've seen more then the one dish fitted to listed buildings and the like
but they have been done very well and very carefully so as not to be
noticed. The average sky installer just wouldn't have the time to
spare;!...
--
Tony Sayer



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