Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:50:50 -0500, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

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That's what I did with my 9200, except I didn't find the need to split
the programmes into half-hour segments.

BUT - surely it's time to think about retiring your faithful old 9200
and getting something that supports HD.

The 9200 is semi-retired. I have a couple of HDR-FOX T2 boxes.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:52:19 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

That's fair enough, but of course whatever HD PVR he gets it won't be
possible to transfer HD recordings to a computer, only SD ones.

Huh? Why not?
I've got HD stuff playing on the PC which was recorded on my T2.

I've always understood that copyright provisions meant that HD recording
were encrypted at the PVR end, and were not transferable to a PC.

Well yes, but there are some clever people about who have found ways
round such nonsense. The T2 is just a Linux box which can be tweaked
to do other things.

Does your T2 transfer without difficulty

Yes.

Are you using Foxy or modified firmware?

The latter. HD is protected and encrypted. SD is just encrypted. With the
customised f/w, you can automatically unprotect HD which means it then gets
treated the same as SD.
You can also automatically decrypt on the box and then copy files off the
box using a variety of methods (FTP, CIFS/Samba, NFS, USB stick/hard drive)
- whatever suits you.
There's a wealth of knowledge and info. over on http://wiki.hummy.tv

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:07:36 -0500, Steve Thackery
wrote:

I've got HD stuff playing on the PC which was recorded on my T2.

But presumably you're using that custom firmware which includes a
decrypter?

The decrypter is built into the DLNA server which is part of the
Humax supplied software. It is just utilised by the C/F to do things
that maybe Humax never thought of.
There is nothing wrong with doing this.

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

There is nothing wrong with doing this.

No, I didn't say there was. I just think we should be clear to those
interested that taking watchable HD recordings of the Humax requires
you to install the custom firmware; it isn't a built-in feature.

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SteveT

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

There is nothing wrong with doing this.

No, I didn't say there was. I just think we should be clear to those
interested that taking watchable HD recordings of the Humax requires
you to install the custom firmware; it isn't a built-in feature.
+++++++++++
Are you sure? I'm using "Foxy" without any custom firmware to download HD
files from my Humax. It's not a simple as a straight copy but it's not that
arduous.

I also can't remember whether I need to copy the entire program or just one
of the control files and THEN copy in/out.

Paul DS

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

Paul D Smith wrote:

Are you sure? I'm using "Foxy" without any custom firmware to
download HD files from my Humax. It's not a simple as a straight
copy but it's not that arduous.


Hey, that's interesting. I didn't know about "Foxy". I'm still not
clear: does it decrypt the HD files?

Many thanks for pointing out Foxy to me.

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SteveT

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:01:12 -0500, Steve Thackery
wrote:

Are you sure? I'm using "Foxy" without any custom firmware to
download HD files from my Humax. It's not a simple as a straight
copy but it's not that arduous.


Hey, that's interesting. I didn't know about "Foxy". I'm still not
clear: does it decrypt the HD files?

No, it just sets flags in the metadata file that marks it as unprotected.
This allows the Humax to treat HD media the same as SD when you are
copying it to an external USB drive i.e. it decrypts it.

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 02:12:36 -0500, Steve Thackery
wrote:

No, I didn't say there was. I just think we should be clear to those
interested that taking watchable HD recordings of the Humax requires
you to install the custom firmware; it isn't a built-in feature.

It doesn't "require" it. It just makes it a lot easier.

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:01:12 -0500, Steve Thackery
wrote:

Are you sure? I'm using "Foxy" without any custom firmware to
download HD files from my Humax. It's not a simple as a straight
copy but it's not that arduous.


Hey, that's interesting. I didn't know about "Foxy". I'm still not
clear: does it decrypt the HD files?

No, it just sets flags in the metadata file that marks it as unprotected.
This allows the Humax to treat HD media the same as SD when you are
copying it to an external USB drive i.e. it decrypts it.
++++++++++++
To add some more meat to Paul R's response, the process as I remember it
(and you should be able to find it on-line) is that you do the following.

1. Download (can use the FTP server on the Humax) a small file of metadata
from the Humax onto a PC
2. Use Foxy on the PC to flip the "encypt" flag(s) in the metadata file
3. Upload the file back to the Humax
4. Copy the HD program onto an external USB drive (large USB pen drive or
external USB disk)
5. Optionally copy the file back to the main disk again

At step 4, you have an unencrypted HD file you can watch on the external
drive.
At step 5, you have the unencrypted HD file back on the Humax and can enable
the DLNA support and stream it to a modern PC too.

Paul DS.

Humax 9200 and Windows 8
 

Very interesting, thanks. I've got the custom firmware installed on
mine, so all that stuff is looked after. But the Foxy approach is
interesting because you don't need to mess about with the "innards", so
to speak, of the Hummy at all.

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SteveT