BBC2 HD
 

I gather that, as from tomorrow, the BBC HD channel will become BBC2 HD
and will shadow BBC2 SD - and will presumably no longer carry selected
BBC3 and BBC4 programmes.

Will I need to re-tune the HD mux on my Humax HDR-FOX-T2? Will series
recordings which I have set up for BBC HD (mainly BBC2) still work?
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On 25/03/2013 14:07, Roger Mills wrote:
I gather that, as from tomorrow, the BBC HD channel will become BBC2 HD
and will shadow BBC2 SD - and will presumably no longer carry selected
BBC3 and BBC4 programmes.

Will I need to re-tune the HD mux on my Humax HDR-FOX-T2? Will series
recordings which I have set up for BBC HD (mainly BBC2) still work?

Looking at the EPG and tabbing forward in time, all the BBC HD entries
from 6am tomorrow are BBC 2 ones, so I think all that is happening as
far as the EPG data is concerned is that the channel name is changing
from BBC HD to BBC 2 HD. So in theory any series links for BBC 2
simulcasts that exist now, should remain intact from tomorrow.

However, I think it would be wise to check tomorrow that your list
of BBC HD/2 series link progs is still intact ?

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 25/03/2013 14:07, Roger Mills wrote:
I gather that, as from tomorrow, the BBC HD channel will become BBC2 HD
and will shadow BBC2 SD - and will presumably no longer carry selected
BBC3 and BBC4 programmes.

Will I need to re-tune the HD mux on my Humax HDR-FOX-T2? Will series
recordings which I have set up for BBC HD (mainly BBC2) still work?

Looking at the EPG and tabbing forward in time, all the BBC HD entries
from 6am tomorrow are BBC 2 ones, so I think all that is happening as
far as the EPG data is concerned is that the channel name is changing
from BBC HD to BBC 2 HD. So in theory any series links for BBC 2
simulcasts that exist now, should remain intact from tomorrow.

However, I think it would be wise to check tomorrow that your list
of BBC HD/2 series link progs is still intact ?

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They should reuse Channel 37 (vacated by 5 analogue) for BBC 3 HD and BBC 4
HD. Also BBC News HD to keep up with Sky News HD. I think BBC News is
already produced in HD now they've moved to new studios.

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On 25/03/2013 15:30, Stephen wrote:

They should reuse Channel 37 (vacated by 5 analogue) for BBC 3 HD and BBC 4
HD. Also BBC News HD to keep up with Sky News HD. I think BBC News is
already produced in HD now they've moved to new studios.

You've not seen the joint Arqiva/BBC/C4 proposal for two T2 muxes in the
'600 MHz' band ?

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultations/uhf-strategy/responses/BBC_Channel_4_Arqiva.pdf

http://www.arqiva.com/corporate/pdf/ReferenceOffers/Interim%20600MHz%20Multiplex%20Indicative%20Propos al.pdf



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"Stephen" wrote in message ...



They should reuse Channel 37 (vacated by 5 analogue) for BBC 3 HD and BBC 4
HD. Also BBC News HD to keep up with Sky News HD. I think BBC News is
already produced in HD now they've moved to new studios.



*****

I do not see any point in having BBC 24 News or Sky News in HD, also we not
got FIVE in HD have we.
Yes I believe they do not want to go HD if HD is the future then they should
be encouraged to.
Regards
David

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On 25/03/2013 15:43, Mark Carver wrote:
On 25/03/2013 15:30, Stephen wrote:

They should reuse Channel 37 (vacated by 5 analogue) for BBC 3 HD and
BBC 4
HD. Also BBC News HD to keep up with Sky News HD. I think BBC News is
already produced in HD now they've moved to new studios.

You've not seen the joint Arqiva/BBC/C4 proposal for two T2 muxes in the
'600 MHz' band ?

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultations/uhf-strategy/responses/BBC_Channel_4_Arqiva.pdf


http://www.arqiva.com/corporate/pdf/ReferenceOffers/Interim%20600MHz%20Multiplex%20Indicative%20Propos al.pdf




But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
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Bob Latham wrote:

Of course it is quite likely I'm not reading correctly but the above
suggests running the low power digital transmitters they've been switching
off through DSO. For Sutton C33 and C35 and low power and am I correct in
thinking those channels are too low for band B? If I am, I don't think I
need to concern myself with it as I will not be able to receive it.

Well, pre DSO nearby Lichfield carried the HD Mux on Ch 34 at low power, and
many received that OK on their Group B aerials in the Messed Widlands ?

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In message , Roger Mills
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But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.
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BBC2 HD
 

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)

BBC2 HD
 

Scott wrote:
Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

It would require BBC 2's playout suite in Glasgow to be upgraded to HD.
So that's money, plus extra codecs and other digital 'glue' in Glasgow
and London. If a BBC 2 HD Scotland was provided on DTT and Cable
in Scotland, then to maintain the BBC's 'platform' neutrality, space
would have to be found on Astra for a wodge of HD capable bandwidth.
Would that be appropriate expenditure ?

And if BBC 2 HD Scotland, what about similar for Wales and NI ?
What about the 12 English BBC 1 regions, that are still SD only ?

It would open a political and financial Pandora's Box I think ?

BBC2 HD
 

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.

That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)

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BBC2 HD
 

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:57:21 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:29:36 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.

I can't receive BBC1 NI HD via Freesat.

I can't get BBC1 England HD, BBC1 Wales HD or BBC1 Scotland HD via
Freesat when I have the box set up using a Northern Ireland postcode.

I can get all those if I switch the box to Non-Freesat mode.
(I needed to do a non-Freesat scan because the HD versions of the
"national regions" went live since the previous scan.)


That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)

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BBC2 HD
 

Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:57:21 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:29:36 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.

I can't receive BBC1 NI HD via Freesat.

I can't get BBC1 England HD, BBC1 Wales HD or BBC1 Scotland HD via
Freesat when I have the box set up using a Northern Ireland postcode.

I can get all those if I switch the box to Non-Freesat mode.
(I needed to do a non-Freesat scan because the HD versions of the
"national regions" went live since the previous scan.)


That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)


The best thing about BBC 2 HD, unlike BBC HD, is there are no DOGs. I hoped
this would be the case after BBC 1HD dropped them.
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On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.


but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.

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BBC2 HD
 

On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.


but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.


Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!

My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
4 programmes shown in HD, AIUI.

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On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:16:21 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.


but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.


Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!

My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
4 programmes shown in HD, AIUI.

It is a pity - many progs. don't gain much by being in HD so using what was
BBC HD for those that did benfit was A Good Thing.
I suppose we'll get endless cucking fooking programmes in HD, including
twice-life-size shots of food going into mouth and other obscenities.
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BBC2 HD
 

On 28/03/2013 21:26, PeterC wrote:



It is a pity - many progs. don't gain much by being in HD so using what was
BBC HD for those that did benfit was A Good Thing.
I suppose we'll get endless cucking fooking programmes in HD, including
twice-life-size shots of food going into mouth and other obscenities.



plus we will get non hd programs upscaled on bbc 2 hd while the hd
filmed other stuff will go unseen.

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BBC2 HD
 

In message
,
Adrian writes

The best thing about BBC 2 HD, unlike BBC HD, is there are no DOGs. I hoped
this would be the case after BBC 1HD dropped them.

Shush, it's probably an oversight.
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In message , Roger Mills
writes
On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.
but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.
Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!
My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
programmes shown in HD, AIUI.
Out of nothing but curiosity I counted the number of HD channels on my
Sky box, 120, yes I know a lot are just dross, but it does show the
uptake.
The other thing I notice is that there is only one 3-D channel and this
isn't 24 hours a day so it makes me wonder if HD has taken off as VHS
and 3-D is floundering as Betamax?
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In message , the dog from that film
you saw writes
plus we will get non hd programs upscaled on bbc 2 hd while the hd
filmed other stuff will go unseen.
I think there is a DAVE HD so you may be alright.
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:09:09 +0000, Clive wrote:

In message , the dog from that film
you saw writes
plus we will get non hd programs upscaled on bbc 2 hd while the hd
filmed other stuff will go unseen.
I think there is a DAVE HD so you may be alright.

But the archeology will be out of date by then.
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BBC2 HD
 

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:22:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

I can't get BBC1 England HD,...

Try Freesat 972.

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:07:05 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:26:57 +0000, PeterC
wrote:

but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.


Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!

What was previously showing on Digiguide labelled as "BBC HD" is now
labelled as "BBC2 HD", with the same programming as normal BBC2.

Depends what you mean by 'normal BBC2'. If you are in Scotland you
get 'English BBC2' :-)

BBC2 HD
 

On 29/03/2013 11:21, Scott wrote:

Depends what you mean by 'normal BBC2'. If you are in Scotland you
get 'English BBC2' :-)

That must be a terrible hardship ;)

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:21:14 +0000, Scott
wrote:

What was previously showing on Digiguide labelled as "BBC HD" is now
labelled as "BBC2 HD", with the same programming as normal BBC2.

Depends what you mean by 'normal BBC2'. If you are in Scotland you
get 'English BBC2' :-)

I didn't think BBC2 was regional anyway. Is it?

Rod.

BBC2 HD
 

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:07:49 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

I didn't think BBC2 was regional anyway. Is it?

There was/is a BBC2 Scotland.

My brain is starting to hurt.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:21:14 +0000, Scott
wrote:

What was previously showing on Digiguide labelled as "BBC HD" is now
labelled as "BBC2 HD", with the same programming as normal BBC2.

Depends what you mean by 'normal BBC2'. If you are in Scotland you
get 'English BBC2' :-)

I didn't think BBC2 was regional anyway. Is it?

In England it's not, however Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales
have their own versions, with a significant amount of opt out programming.

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:56:59 +0000, Wilf
wrote:

On 29/03/2013 11:21, Scott wrote:

Depends what you mean by 'normal BBC2'. If you are in Scotland you
get 'English BBC2' :-)

That must be a terrible hardship ;)

That depends on your view of the forthcoming referendum but I would
hate to introduce anything as vulgar as politics into this group :-)

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:18:35 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

I didn't think BBC2 was regional anyway. Is it?

In England it's not, however Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales
have their own versions, with a significant amount of opt out programming.

I thought all that was going away under the guise of Delivering Quts First,
BICBW.

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:32:02 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:18:35 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

I didn't think BBC2 was regional anyway. Is it?

In England it's not, however Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales
have their own versions, with a significant amount of opt out programming.

I thought all that was going away under the guise of Delivering Quts First,
BICBW.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/abouttheb...f_scotland.pdf

BBC One Scotland will launch in HD in 2012 across all platforms, in
line with the network. This represents an investment of £2m for
audiences in Scotland. BBC Two Scotland will be maintained in SD
until at least 2015 while we review its long-term future. However, we
are committed to maintaining the range and quality of the television
output we currently provide in Scotland.

BBC2 HD
 

In message , Alan White
writes
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:22:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:
I can't get BBC1 England HD,...
Try Freesat 972.
I get BBC1HD on 108
BBC2HD on 109
I can't get 972 of anything, but on Sky I can get all the local channels
up in the high 900s.
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BBC2 HD
 

Clive wrote:
In message , Alan White
writes
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:22:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:
I can't get BBC1 England HD,...
Try Freesat 972.


I get BBC1HD on 108
BBC2HD on 109
I can't get 972 of anything, but on Sky I can get all the local channels
up in the high 900s.

For English postcodes the national BBC HD variants are not available
on the Freesat EPG. As Alan said 972 is BBC 1 HD England, for non English
postcodes.

Not sure if the national BBC HD variants are available on Sky's EPG at 9** ?


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Not sure if the national BBC HD variants are available on Sky's EPG at 9** ?
950 SKY INTRO
1 BBC 1 SCOTLAND
2 WALES
3 NI
4 LONDON
6 YORKS
7 YRKS+LIN
8 WEST
9 WEST MID
960 EAST MID
3 S EAST
4 SOUTH
5 OXFORD
6 WEST
7 S WEST
8 CI(CHANNEL ISLANDS)
970 BBC 2 SCOTLAND
1 WALES
2 NI
3 ITV
4 CHANNEL 4
5 4+1
995 SKY INTRO-SKY TV MADE SIMPLE
7HD RETAIL INFO
8 SKY INTRO
9 SKY
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Clive wrote:
In message , Mark Carver
writes

Not sure if the national BBC HD variants are available on Sky's EPG at 9** ?

950 SKY INTRO

[snip]

9 SKY

In other words, No.

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