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Peter Duncanson March 28th 13 11:29 AM

BBC2 HD
 
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.

That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson March 28th 13 01:22 PM

BBC2 HD
 
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:57:21 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:29:36 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.


I can't receive BBC1 NI HD via Freesat.

I can't get BBC1 England HD, BBC1 Wales HD or BBC1 Scotland HD via
Freesat when I have the box set up using a Northern Ireland postcode.

I can get all those if I switch the box to Non-Freesat mode.
(I needed to do a non-Freesat scan because the HD versions of the
"national regions" went live since the previous scan.)


That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Adrian[_4_] March 28th 13 03:43 PM

BBC2 HD
 
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:57:21 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:29:36 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:57:45 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Is there any logical reason why Newsnight Scotland does not appear on
BBC Two HD? BBC One Scotland is an HD channel. STV occupies the
'ITV' position on the multiplex. Clearly there is a special multiplex
for Scotland so why is Newsnight Scotland not part of it?

Possibly to maintain compatibility with Freesat. I think this s called
"platform neutrality".

Here in Northern Ireland BBC1 NI HD has the same regional schedule as
BBC1 NI SD. BBC2 NI SD has some regional programmes, but BBC2 HD does
not show the same local programmes as BBC2 NI SD.

That is the same on both Freeview and Freesat.


I can't receive BBC1 NI HD via Freesat.

I can't get BBC1 England HD, BBC1 Wales HD or BBC1 Scotland HD via
Freesat when I have the box set up using a Northern Ireland postcode.

I can get all those if I switch the box to Non-Freesat mode.
(I needed to do a non-Freesat scan because the HD versions of the
"national regions" went live since the previous scan.)


That said, in the run-up to the referendum for those of us who have
already decided ability to 'opt-out' of Newsnight Scotland might be
very welcome :-)



The best thing about BBC 2 HD, unlike BBC HD, is there are no DOGs. I hoped
this would be the case after BBC 1HD dropped them.
--
Adrian

the dog from that film you saw[_3_] March 28th 13 08:08 PM

BBC2 HD
 
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?

There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.



but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Roger Mills[_2_] March 28th 13 09:16 PM

BBC2 HD
 
On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?

There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.



but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.


Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!

My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
4 programmes shown in HD, AIUI.

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Roger
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PeterC March 28th 13 10:26 PM

BBC2 HD
 
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:16:21 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.



but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.


Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!

My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
4 programmes shown in HD, AIUI.


It is a pity - many progs. don't gain much by being in HD so using what was
BBC HD for those that did benfit was A Good Thing.
I suppose we'll get endless cucking fooking programmes in HD, including
twice-life-size shots of food going into mouth and other obscenities.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

the dog from that film you saw[_3_] March 28th 13 11:22 PM

BBC2 HD
 
On 28/03/2013 21:26, PeterC wrote:



It is a pity - many progs. don't gain much by being in HD so using what was
BBC HD for those that did benfit was A Good Thing.
I suppose we'll get endless cucking fooking programmes in HD, including
twice-life-size shots of food going into mouth and other obscenities.



plus we will get non hd programs upscaled on bbc 2 hd while the hd
filmed other stuff will go unseen.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Ian March 29th 13 01:38 AM

BBC2 HD
 
In message
,
Adrian writes

The best thing about BBC 2 HD, unlike BBC HD, is there are no DOGs. I hoped
this would be the case after BBC 1HD dropped them.


Shush, it's probably an oversight.
--
Ian

Clive[_3_] March 29th 13 03:06 AM

BBC2 HD
 
In message , Roger Mills
writes
On 28/03/2013 19:08, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/03/2013 03:22, Clive wrote:
In message , Roger Mills
writes
But none of this is happening yet, is it? So presumably there'll be no
HD on BBC3 or BBC4 until another T2 mux materialises?
There is no BBC 3 or 4 in HD on Freesat.

but some bbc3 and 4 shows are shown on bbc hd - once it becomes bbc 2 hd
that will no longer be the case.

Correction: Some BBC3 and 4 programmes *were* shown on BBC HD. That
*has* now become BBC2 HD - so it's already no longer the case!
My earlier statement that "none of this is happening yet" referred to
the provision of additional HD muxes - to provide more HD channels.
*That* hasn't happened and, until it does, there'll be no more BBC3 and
programmes shown in HD, AIUI.

Out of nothing but curiosity I counted the number of HD channels on my
Sky box, 120, yes I know a lot are just dross, but it does show the
uptake.
The other thing I notice is that there is only one 3-D channel and this
isn't 24 hours a day so it makes me wonder if HD has taken off as VHS
and 3-D is floundering as Betamax?
--
Clive

Clive[_3_] March 29th 13 03:09 AM

BBC2 HD
 
In message , the dog from that film
you saw writes
plus we will get non hd programs upscaled on bbc 2 hd while the hd
filmed other stuff will go unseen.

I think there is a DAVE HD so you may be alright.
--
Clive


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