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http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our
international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run
commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the
profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great new
BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital
activities at www.bbcworldwide.com.


If it wasn't for the licence fees, the BBC wouldn't exist.

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:29:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

The profits from BBC Worldwide go to people like Jeremy Clarkson

Profits? They've managed to lose 80 million quid in five years.
That would have paid for the half of TV Centre they aren't keeping.
Makes the DG debacle pale into insignificance.

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writes
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part
of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee.

You can get around that by using a proxy outside the Uk.

--
Simon

12) The Second Rule of Expectations
An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment.

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"usenet2012" wrote in message ...

In message , Richard
writes
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part
of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee.

You can get around that by using a proxy outside the Uk.

Yeah, I know. But why should I or any other UK resident have to?

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nobody wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:29:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

The profits from BBC Worldwide go to people like Jeremy Clarkson

Profits? They've managed to lose 80 million quid in five years.
That would have paid for the half of TV Centre they aren't keeping.
Makes the DG debacle pale into insignificance.

I think the price was low because it was a forced sale. Intwerfering
politicians ;-(

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:04:04 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

A camera with a hole in it.
Here you go...
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?sxufgz90t9ra6tm

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What a load of arty farty claptrap tat is, do they theen graft you on
another arm to hold the imaging device
Maybe theis is in fact a camera for us blind folk....

Brian

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:04:04 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of
our
international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run
commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the
profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great
new
BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital
activities at www.bbcworldwide.com.

Here's what you missed

"In the second part of BBC Future's Imagineering series, British firm
Conran reimagines the digital camera with some of the retro joys of
analogue photography.

Related


A digital camera with retro looks

Smart mask maps polluted streets

Bend and flex for mobile phones

Fake pictures make real memories

'Failure is the best medicine'
Forgotten that old-school feeling of waiting for your photographs to
be developed before seeing how they turned out? British design firm
Conran may have the answer.

For BBC Future's Imagineering project, in which designers are asked to
reinterpret everyday objects, the designer chose to reimagine the
digital camera with some of the joys of the analogue age.

Sitting in an apartment above the company's London offices, senior
designer Jared Mankelow unveiled the company's vision. His bold design
is a Post-it note-shaped square in bold blue, with two rings at the
front for the imaging sensors (black) and a ringflash (white). A large
hole bored straight through the camera serves as its lens and
viewfinder.



Watch Jared Mankelow explain the inspiration for his design


The square snapper may only be a mock-up -made by the UK's Complete
Fabrications - but it includes many of the attributes Mankelow would
like in a finished product. Firstly there is the weight - the
design's reassuring heaviness harks back to the chunky character of
models from the 1970s, when old-school film cameras arguably reached
their golden age.

The bottom two thirds of the back of the camera are devoted to
point-and-shoot photography; turning it on, activating flash, and
pressing the shutter. The top bar, with its knurled dial and other
details allows more creative control - such as fine-tuning aperture
and shutter speed, and changing flash settings.

"When we look back at old film cameras, one of the nice things we have
here is you can almost navigate round the camera blind, we've got
these beautiful knurled details," he said. Some of those old features
are found on the new camera, such as the textured detail on the
aperture ring, which mimics the detail found on older cameras.

The changes don't end there. "What we've really tried to do is boil it
down to the essence of what a digital camera should be, and what its
core functionality is.

"What we really have to ask ourselves is, what is the screen for,"
adds Mankelow. "What is its purpose? And for us, it's just another
element that chewed through a lot of power. Everybody's got a
smartphone, tablet or PC nowadays, and they are built with very,
very high definition screens."

Using these - instead of an inbuilt screen - give several advantages,
the designer said.

"[There are] two things happening here - one is with the surprise or
delight of not actually viewing the subject matter you're taking
photos of, and the other is transferring via Bluetooth to your
smartphone, to your tablet, and viewing photos that way."

It may not quite recreate that feeling of waiting for your pictures to
come back from the lab, but if the prototype becomes a reality, it may
be the closest thing in the digital age.

If you would like to comment on this video or anything else you have
seen on Future, head over to our Facebook page or message us on
Twitter."




If it wasn't for the licence fees, the BBC wouldn't exist.

The profits from BBC Worldwide go to people like Jeremy Clarkson
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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I thought it all went to Salford keys.

Brian

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"nobody" wrote in message
o.uk...
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:29:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

The profits from BBC Worldwide go to people like Jeremy Clarkson

Profits? They've managed to lose 80 million quid in five years.
That would have paid for the half of TV Centre they aren't keeping.
Makes the DG debacle pale into insignificance.

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And yes the spelling was diberate grin.

Brian

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o.uk...
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:29:05 +0100, Martin wrote:

The profits from BBC Worldwide go to people like Jeremy Clarkson

Profits? They've managed to lose 80 million quid in five years.
That would have paid for the half of TV Centre they aren't keeping.
Makes the DG debacle pale into insignificance.

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Is this not totally stupid though?

Worldwide implies everywhere in the world surely?

Brian

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...
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:13:34 +0000, usenet2012
wrote:

In message , Richard
writes
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

BBC Future (international version)

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part
of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee.

You can get around that by using a proxy outside the Uk.

This time it is those outside UK who can read the website and those
inside UK who need a proxy server to read it.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Didn't work for me. Try here instead

http://www.daveproxy.us/browse.php?u...b=29&f=norefer

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A.N.Other wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Didn't work for me.

I think NYUD.net is intended to be more of a distributed cache, than a
country-hiding proxy, I guess it distributed you to a node where nobody
outside the UK had accessed that page ... it's worked a couple of times
for me on 'BBC Future' pages.

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Thanks. But I have already seen the site via proxies. I, and you, should not
have to do that to see a resource which we have funded.
As Brian implies, what are they trying to hide from the British? What don't
they get about the "British" part of the British Broadcasting Corporation?
Oh, ****. I forgot. I'm a British taxpaying straight male ...

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In message , Richard
writes
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
news:[email protected] co.uk...

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/fut...adical-camera-
goes-back-in-time

Thanks. But I have already seen the site via proxies. I, and you,
should not have to do that to see a resource which we have funded.
As Brian implies, what are they trying to hide from the British? What
don't they get about the "British" part of the British Broadcasting
Corporation?
Oh, ****. I forgot. I'm a British taxpaying straight male ...

I think that the BBC's attitude used to be the same for the BBC World
Service, it is not paid for out of licences fees. Until the advent of
DAB radio, no provision was made for daytime listening in the UK, and
reception of the medium wave transmission on 648kHz was purely
fortuitous. And although Radio 4 has, for many years, carried the World
Service during the night, I don't think that this was always the case.
--
Ian

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Martin wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_cache

Seems less reliable than I remember it, it's stopped working for me too now

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"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

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Martin wrote:

Lets be frank (and ernest) nobody has missed much.

True enough, but if someone puts up a big fence, it's human nature to
peer over it ...

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"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

**** poor Opera too, then

"Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/fut...s-back-in-time,
which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address
(URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the
page."

I use both Opera and Chrome.

Then I guess it's your location, as it works here.

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In message , Martin
writes
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:47:39 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:




I think that the BBC's attitude used to be the same for the BBC World
Service, it is not paid for out of licences fees.

It was funded by the C&FO

But it's the likes of thee and me (well maybe only the likes of me) who
funds the C & FO.

--
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:48:57 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

**** poor Opera too, then

"Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/fut...s-back-in-time,
which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address
(URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the
page."

I use both Opera and Chrome.

fwiw works with FF19.0.2
--
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

+1
--
Regards, J B Good

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:48:57 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

**** poor Opera too, then

"Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/fut...s-back-in-time,
which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address
(URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the
page."

I use both Opera and Chrome.

That's interesting, I just tried that last link with Opera and
reached the site yet again. Clicked the "next picture arrow' and
copied the url...

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Try removing the final comma in yor link and see whether that helps
(I suspect not since it didn't stop Opera reaching the site).

Perhaps it's a name server issue? My ISP is virginmedia if that has
any bearing on the issue.

--
Regards, J B Good

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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Martin
writes
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:47:39 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:




I think that the BBC's attitude used to be the same for the BBC World
Service, it is not paid for out of licences fees.

It was funded by the C&FO

But it's the likes of thee and me (well maybe only the likes of me) who
funds the C & FO.

1. It's the F & CO or more accuately the FCO
2. They no longer fund the BBC World Service.

--
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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:08:16 -0000
"Richard" wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

**** poor Opera too, then

"Could not locate remote server

You tried to access the address
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/fut...s-back-in-time,
which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address
(URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the
page."

I use both Opera and Chrome.

Then I guess it's your location, as it works here.


Works for me, using Ubuntu 10.04, FF 19.0.2, and just clicking the link
above. I'm in East Anglia, and don't use any proxies. I use Zen as my
ISP, which might help.
--
Davey.

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"Davey" wrote in message ...

snip
I use both Opera and Chrome.

Then I guess it's your location, as it works here.


Works for me, using Ubuntu 10.04, FF 19.0.2, and just clicking the link
above. I'm in East Anglia, and don't use any proxies. I use Zen as my
ISP, which might help.

The link posted by Andy Burns goes through a proxy. Zen is my ISP too, but
the ISP is not the issue here.
Original link:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Andy Burns' link:
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:12:32 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:01:00 +0000, Johny B Good
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0000, "Richard"
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:29:38 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Richard wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2013...s-back-in-time

We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK

http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

"Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080
Suggestion ..."

Ditch **** poor Google Chrome and try Opera.

+1

Rubbish. It isn't a Google Chrome issue.

That became swiftly apparent.


Try to be objective. One gets sick of willy wavers.

It's interesting that you recognised why I did not feel the need to
change my vote. ;-)

--
Regards, J B Good

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Martin wrote:

Lets be frank

When I was at school the teacher told the class a joke about 'two
queers', the punchline being, "It's my turn to be frank." None of us
understood it.

Bill

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Andy Burns wrote:
Martin wrote:

Lets be frank (and ernest) nobody has missed much.

True enough, but if someone puts up a big fence, it's human nature to
peer over it ...


The grass is always greener...

Bill

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Martin wrote:

Try to be objective. One gets sick of willy wavers.
Martin in Zuid Holland

Is this a particular problem in Holland?

Bill

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:45:05 -0000
"Richard" wrote:

"Davey" wrote in message ...

snip
I use both Opera and Chrome.

Then I guess it's your location, as it works here.


Works for me, using Ubuntu 10.04, FF 19.0.2, and just clicking the
link above. I'm in East Anglia, and don't use any proxies. I use Zen
as my ISP, which might help.

The link posted by Andy Burns goes through a proxy. Zen is my ISP
too, but the ISP is not the issue here.
Original link:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time

Andy Burns' link:
http://www.bbc.com.nyud.net:8080/future/story/20130318-radical-camera-goes-back-in-time


Yes, ok. Got my links in a twist.
--
Davey.