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David.WE.Roberts March 15th 13 04:21 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Just onto CPC to buy some more screw on male F plugs and found that they
listed RG58, RG59, and RG6/100.

Now from looking at Wikipedia I think that 58 and 59 are for older cables,
and anything modern should take RG6.

Just double checking.

Cheers

Dave R

Scott[_4_] March 15th 13 07:03 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html

Graham.[_2_] March 15th 13 07:35 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott
wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html



http://www.yell.com/b/Sattelite+Aeri...5JE-901326634/

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Bill Wright[_2_] March 15th 13 08:40 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott
wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html



http://www.yell.com/b/Sattelite+Aeri...5JE-901326634/

Incredible isn't it?

Bill

Graham.[_2_] March 15th 13 09:38 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:40:29 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott
wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html



http://www.yell.com/b/Sattelite+Aeri...5JE-901326634/

Incredible isn't it?

Bill


St Helen's.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

David.WE.Roberts March 15th 13 11:03 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html


Yeah yeah yeah.
Satellite
Now about the original question......

Y Dangle March 16th 13 09:04 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html


Yeah yeah yeah.
Satellite
Now about the original question......


RG6 is a little thicker than RG59, and so is lower loss, and uses bigger F
connectors. You can find both these cables, and others the same size. (what
was the original question?)

Y.



Y Dangle March 16th 13 10:55 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 

"Y Dangle" wrote in message
...

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html


Yeah yeah yeah.
Satellite
Now about the original question......


RG6 is a little thicker than RG59, and so is lower loss, and uses bigger F
connectors. You can find both these cables, and others the same size.
(what was the original question?)

Y.


Also, RG58 is 50 ohm cable, (6 and 59 are 75ohm) not that the impedance is
relevant with F connectors, and is a little thinner than RG59.

Y.



David.WE.Roberts March 16th 13 10:56 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:04:40 +0200, Y Dangle wrote:

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:03:22 +0000, Scott wrote:

http://www.jspell.com/public-spell-checker.html


Yeah yeah yeah.
Satellite Now about the original question......


RG6 is a little thicker than RG59, and so is lower loss, and uses bigger
F connectors. You can find both these cables, and others the same size.
(what was the original question?)

Y.


The original question was 'is RG6 now the standard for satellite cables?'.

Such as PF100

Y Dangle March 16th 13 11:58 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 

"
The original question was 'is RG6 now the standard for satellite cables?'.

Such as PF100


er...I don't think there is a standard for satellite cables. (only that it's
75ohm and can take an F connector)

Y.



David.WE.Roberts March 16th 13 03:40 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:58:03 +0200, Y Dangle wrote:

"
The original question was 'is RG6 now the standard for satellite
cables?'.

Such as PF100


er...I don't think there is a standard for satellite cables. (only that
it's 75ohm and can take an F connector)

Y.


Which leads me to the obvious question - how the fornication do you know
which F connector to order????

Y Dangle March 17th 13 10:14 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 

"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:58:03 +0200, Y Dangle wrote:

"
The original question was 'is RG6 now the standard for satellite
cables?'.

Such as PF100


er...I don't think there is a standard for satellite cables. (only that
it's 75ohm and can take an F connector)

Y.


Which leads me to the obvious question - how the fornication do you know
which F connector to order????


Yes a fair question, it is made a bit more difficult by the fact that there
are two sorts of F connector, the kind that fits between the dielectric and
the braid; and the kind which you fold back some braid over the outside of
the cable and the connector screws over it. (These seem to be more popular
these days, back when I was installing CATV in Canada the first type was all
we saw.) (pauses to recall the joys of Labatt's Blue....)

So you look up the dimensions of the cable you want to use, and find a
connector (there's probably only a choice of two or three) the right size,
there being only one dimension that counts for either kind of connector as
the centre pin is always the inner conductor of the cable.

Or buy a few of each size and pick the right one.

Cheers
Y.



Peter Duncanson March 17th 13 01:48 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:14:19 +0200, "Y Dangle"
wrote:


"David.WE.Roberts" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:58:03 +0200, Y Dangle wrote:

"
The original question was 'is RG6 now the standard for satellite
cables?'.

Such as PF100


er...I don't think there is a standard for satellite cables. (only that
it's 75ohm and can take an F connector)

Y.


Which leads me to the obvious question - how the fornication do you know
which F connector to order????


Yes a fair question, it is made a bit more difficult by the fact that there
are two sorts of F connector, the kind that fits between the dielectric and
the braid; and the kind which you fold back some braid over the outside of
the cable and the connector screws over it. (These seem to be more popular
these days, back when I was installing CATV in Canada the first type was all
we saw.) (pauses to recall the joys of Labatt's Blue....)

So you look up the dimensions of the cable you want to use, and find a
connector (there's probably only a choice of two or three) the right size,
there being only one dimension that counts for either kind of connector as
the centre pin is always the inner conductor of the cable.

Or buy a few of each size and pick the right one.

I have limited knowledge of this.

There are "twist-on" and "compression" types. The twist-ons come in
various sizes with the type of cable they are for in the name of the
plug.

Twist-on:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/twist-on-f-plugs-10447

CT100 F Plug
CT125 F Plug
RG58 F Plug
RG59 F Plug

Compression:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/f-type-compression-plug-388517

F Type Compression Plug

Suitable for radial and compression fit tools
Will accommodate RG6
Fast and easy fit
Ideal for professional installers

An F type connector suitable for compression fit tools allowing an
easy and speedy installation of Television, cctv and other RF
applications.

I have no experience of the compression type. Are they a universal fit
for all types of cable (CT100, CT125, RG58, RG59, RG6)?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

David.WE.Roberts March 18th 13 04:38 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:48:42 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:

snip
There are "twist-on" and "compression" types. The twist-ons come in
various sizes with the type of cable they are for in the name of the
plug.

Twist-on:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/twist-on-f-plugs-10447

CT100 F Plug CT125 F Plug RG58 F Plug RG59 F Plug

snip

Thanks Peter.

The key piece of information:

"CT100, RG6, 3/X/289 FU04E "

This tells me (I hope correctly) that an RG6 plug is suitable for CT100
cable.

This is, however, the first place I have seen the two linked.

When my tuit is no longer square I might have a go at putting something in
the Wiki.

Cheers

Dave R

Andy Burns[_8_] March 18th 13 10:03 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
David.WE.Roberts wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/twist-on-f-plugs-10447


"CT100, RG6, 3/X/289 FU04E"
This tells me (I hope correctly) that an RG6 plug is suitable for CT100
cable.


But don't for fuxsake pay Maplin prices ... about 1/12 the price at
ToolSatan.


David.WE.Roberts March 18th 13 10:53 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:03:02 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

David.WE.Roberts wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/twist-on-f-plugs-10447


"CT100, RG6, 3/X/289 FU04E"
This tells me (I hope correctly) that an RG6 plug is suitable for CT100
cable.


But don't for fuxsake pay Maplin prices ... about 1/12 the price at
ToolSatan.


Was going to tack it onto a CPC order.

If I ever finalise it.

Cheers

Dave R

Peter Duncanson March 19th 13 12:46 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:03:02 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

David.WE.Roberts wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/twist-on-f-plugs-10447


"CT100, RG6, 3/X/289 FU04E"
This tells me (I hope correctly) that an RG6 plug is suitable for CT100
cable.


But don't for fuxsake pay Maplin prices ... about 1/12 the price at
ToolSatan.


:-)

I just quoted from the Maplin website because it had useful information.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Roderick Stewart[_3_] March 19th 13 11:21 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:46:24 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:


But don't for fuxsake pay Maplin prices ... about 1/12 the price at
ToolSatan.


:-)

I just quoted from the Maplin website because it had useful information.


I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise. The place is
always swarming with assistants whenever I go there, which must cost
quite a lot in wages considering the rarefied nature of most of what
they're selling. A typical greengrocer or newsagent might have only
one or two assistants and pretty much constant throughput at the till,
but our Maplin branch often has half a dozen or more, with one of them
only occasionally going to the till when somebody actually wants to
buy something. It has the appearance of money going out faster than
it's coming in.

It'll be a shame if it goes. There's nobody else in the high street
doing exactly what they're doing.

Rod.

Bill Wright[_2_] March 19th 13 12:45 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.

The place is
always swarming with assistants whenever I go there,

ditto

which must cost
quite a lot in wages considering the rarefied nature of most of what
they're selling.

No, they're on basic rates. Any specialist knowledge comes from their
own interests.

It'll be a shame if it goes. There's nobody else in the high street
doing exactly what they're doing.

What happened to Tandy?

Bill

charles March 19th 13 01:24 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:


I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.


The place is
always swarming with assistants whenever I go there,

ditto


which must cost
quite a lot in wages considering the rarefied nature of most of what
they're selling.

No, they're on basic rates. Any specialist knowledge comes from their
own interests.


It'll be a shame if it goes. There's nobody else in the high street
doing exactly what they're doing.

What happened to Tandy?



they sold their shops to Carphone Warehouse - Radio Shack still flourishes
in the USA. Interestingly, in Guildford Maplin are in the shop that used
to be Tandy.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18


John Legon March 19th 13 02:01 PM

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charles wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:


What happened to Tandy?


they sold their shops to Carphone Warehouse - Radio Shack still flourishes
in the USA. Interestingly, in Guildford Maplin are in the shop that used
to be Tandy.


I used to go into the Tandy shop in Guildford quite often, but haven't
been up that end of the High Street for some time and didn't know that
the place is now Maplin. It's good to know that I have the option of
buying F-plugs at 10 or 15 times the trade price. :-)


Johny B Good[_2_] March 19th 13 02:51 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:45:16 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.

The place is
always swarming with assistants whenever I go there,

ditto

which must cost
quite a lot in wages considering the rarefied nature of most of what
they're selling.

No, they're on basic rates. Any specialist knowledge comes from their
own interests.

It'll be a shame if it goes. There's nobody else in the high street
doing exactly what they're doing.

What happened to Tandy?


I suspect their demise was, largely, due to sheer stupidity/arrogance
with regard to their currency conversion policy of USD to UKP pricing,
ignoring exchange rates by simply replacing the dollar sign with a
pound sign.

My treasured copy of "How To Program The Z80" by Rodnay Zaks, priced
at "TEN DOLLARS AND NINETY-FIVE CENTS" which they (Tandy) sold to me
for £9.95 just over thirty years ago is a permanent reminder of this
fact.

You don't suppose Maplin have retail outlets Stateside by any chance?
--
Regards, J B Good

Peter Duncanson March 19th 13 03:21 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:01:28 +0000, John Legon
wrote:

charles wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:


What happened to Tandy?


they sold their shops to Carphone Warehouse - Radio Shack still flourishes
in the USA. Interestingly, in Guildford Maplin are in the shop that used
to be Tandy.


I used to go into the Tandy shop in Guildford quite often, but haven't
been up that end of the High Street for some time and didn't know that
the place is now Maplin. It's good to know that I have the option of
buying F-plugs at 10 or 15 times the trade price. :-)


Someone who just buys one or two F-plugs every year or so is not going
to be unduly bothered about getting the best price.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Andy Champ[_2_] March 19th 13 05:21 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On 19/03/2013 13:51, Johny B Good wrote:
I suspect their demise was, largely, due to sheer stupidity/arrogance
with regard to their currency conversion policy of USD to UKP pricing,
ignoring exchange rates by simply replacing the dollar sign with a
pound sign.


This was standard practice at the time, not just unique to them.

reaches for bookshelf
Inside Windows NT. (1993) USD24.95, GBP22.95

reaches for Amazon
Programming Erlang, Software for a Concurrent World. (2007) USD20.35,
GBP 24.23

OK, it still is :(

Andy

Paul Ratcliffe March 19th 13 05:57 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:45:16 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.


They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.


They could just shrink to one shop operating out of Southend-on-Sea.

Andy Burns[_8_] March 19th 13 08:06 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Bill Wright wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.


Quite possibly, they've cut down the 8pm opening here, which used to be
useful if you realised on day1 of a job you needed a few extra bits you
could make a distress purchase on the way home and have them ready for day2.

Couple of times recently I've ordered stuff overnight for collection
before 9am from an RS Trade counter, and they've been cheaper

What happened to Tandy?


http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/


charles March 19th 13 08:11 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:45:16 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:


I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.


They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.


They could just shrink to one shop operating out of Southend-on-Sea.


or even on Maplin Sands ;-)

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18


Bill Wright[_2_] March 19th 13 09:20 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Peter Duncanson wrote:

Someone who just buys one or two F-plugs every year or so is not going
to be unduly bothered about getting the best price.


My brother-in-law would be.

Bill


Peter Duncanson March 19th 13 09:22 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:11:36 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote:

In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:45:16 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:


I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.


They could just shrink to one shop operating out of Southend-on-Sea.


or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


They are both a long way from the company's head office postal address
in Rotherham.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Paul Cummins[_4_] March 19th 13 11:02 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
In article ,
(charles) wrote:

Interestingly, in Guildford Maplin are in the shop that used
to be Tandy.


Having moved from their old store on the Bridge (where Tesco now is)
twice.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

---- If it's below this line, I didn't write it ----

Paul Ratcliffe March 20th 13 01:01 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:22:11 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.


They could just shrink to one shop operating out of Southend-on-Sea.


or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


They are both a long way from the company's head office postal address
in Rotherham.


I think a "whoosh" is in order here.

Peter Duncanson March 20th 13 01:55 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:20:26 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

Someone who just buys one or two F-plugs every year or so is not going
to be unduly bothered about getting the best price.


My brother-in-law would be.

chuckle

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Bill Wright[_2_] March 20th 13 03:20 AM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:20:26 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

Someone who just buys one or two F-plugs every year or so is not going
to be unduly bothered about getting the best price.

My brother-in-law would be.

chuckle

He's got a bad leg but he parks outside town and walks in, then
staggerers back with his shopping, to save 60p.
Their living room has a single 20W bulb (a modern one with a pasty
light). He reads the daily paper in the library.

Bill

Steve Terry[_2_] March 20th 13 05:45 AM

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Bill Wright wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:

snip
What happened to Tandy?
Bill

The folded up in the UK, in the USA they are called Radio Shack

Steve Terry
--
Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and £5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk



Max Demian March 20th 13 01:41 PM

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"Steve Terry" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:

snip
What happened to Tandy?
Bill

The folded up in the UK, in the USA they are called Radio Shack


You mean they performed the Japanese suicide ritual known as Origami.

--
Max Demian



Peter Duncanson March 20th 13 02:57 PM

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:01:39 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:22:11 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

I worry that Maplin could be the next high street demise.

They'll become mail order only I think, before long, or maybe just keep
a small number of branches.

They could just shrink to one shop operating out of Southend-on-Sea.

or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


They are both a long way from the company's head office postal address
in Rotherham.


I think a "whoosh" is in order here.


No whoosh. I intended my comment in the spirit of the original.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Steve Thackery[_2_] March 20th 13 04:58 PM

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charles wrote:

or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


Talking of which, am I right in thinking that Maplin didn't have any
retail outlets in its early years? Originally it used to sell ONLY
electronic components, and the catalogues were fantastic - for some
chips they published lots of interesting design information and usage
tips.

Obviously the decline in electronics hobbying meant they had to
diversify until what they are now - the ultimate retail gadget shop.


--
SteveT

Ian Jackson[_2_] March 20th 13 05:07 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
In message , Steve Thackery
writes
charles wrote:

or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


Talking of which, am I right in thinking that Maplin didn't have any
retail outlets in its early years? Originally it used to sell ONLY
electronic components, and the catalogues were fantastic - for some
chips they published lots of interesting design information and usage
tips.

Obviously the decline in electronics hobbying meant they had to
diversify until what they are now - the ultimate retail gadget shop.

Weren't Maplin Cirkit?
--
Ian

Peter Duncanson March 20th 13 06:56 PM

Sattelite F connector - RG6?
 
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:07:02 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Steve Thackery
writes
charles wrote:

or even on Maplin Sands ;-)


Talking of which, am I right in thinking that Maplin didn't have any
retail outlets in its early years? Originally it used to sell ONLY
electronic components, and the catalogues were fantastic - for some
chips they published lots of interesting design information and usage
tips.

Obviously the decline in electronics hobbying meant they had to
diversify until what they are now - the ultimate retail gadget shop.

Weren't Maplin Cirkit?


?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maplin_Electronics

Maplin Electronic Supplies was established in 1972 as a small mail
order business by Roger and Sandra Allen and Doug Simmons. The
company originally started in a bedroom at the Allens' home in
Rayleigh, Essex, after the two electronics enthusiasts were
disappointed by the complexity and poor availability of existing
electronic component suppliers.
....
The first store opened in Westcliff-on-Sea; the mail order
department business moved into the spare rooms above the shop.

If the following is correct the company is not fading away:

Recent activity

In 2004 Montagu Private Equity purchased 67% of Maplin from Graphite
Capital at a cost of UK£244 million.[7] In 2007 the company began to
relocate its headquarters and distribution centre to a new facility
at Brookfields Park on the former Manvers Main Colliery, Rotherham,
just two miles from the old warehouse in Wombwell. Maplin
discontinued the processing of orders outside of the UK and Ireland
in January 2010, but is looking to expand abroad in 2015.

Montagu Private Equity are now evaluating their options with
Maplin,[citation needed] as the value of their investment has been
realised.[citation needed] It was envisaged that when the market
conditions are right, Maplin would float on the London Stock
Exchange; as yet nothing has been confirmed.

Store expansion

The company has invested UK£40 million to overhaul its e-commerce
platform and to reach a medium term goal of 300 retail stores
throughout the UK and Ireland before expanding abroad in 2015.[8]
The company is looking to find vacant store outlets in key cities[9]
in which to expand.

In 2013 Maplin Electronics plan to open travel stores in airports
and railway stations where it will offer a tailored product
selection (travel adaptors, batteries, laptop chargers etc.).[10]

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Steve Thackery[_2_] March 21st 13 04:56 PM

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Ian Jackson wrote:

Weren't Maplin Cirkit?


I think they were completely different outfits.

--
SteveT


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