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Freeview links to the Internet
With my new Smart TV I have been exploring some of the more weird
channels. Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. I have reasons to have this site looked at by Ofcom. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? (Please: No flames about the rights or wrongs of the site itself, this query seeks clarification about what is the status of this hybrid type of broadcasting). Ideas, facts, thoughts? |
Freeview links to the Internet
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naffer wrote: Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? If this article is correct, it is regulated by Ofcom as a broadcast channel: "Broadcast channels like BBC1 clearly fall under Ofcom, but things get more hazy once the internet gets involved - for example, Sports Tonight (Freeview 227) is delivered by IP, but it has a schedule, so it falls under Ofcom, while The Space (Freeview 232) lets viewers pick the show, so it falls under ATVOD." ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/18/atvod_top_gear/ ) -- Richard |
Freeview links to the Internet
On 28/02/2013 20:23, naffer wrote:
With my new Smart TV I have been exploring some of the more weird channels. Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. I have reasons to have this site looked at by Ofcom. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? (Please: No flames about the rights or wrongs of the site itself, this query seeks clarification about what is the status of this hybrid type of broadcasting). Ideas, facts, thoughts? think last year the government were moaning that a sex channel was doing the same thing on freeview and showing more than a licensed tv channel in the uk would - general concensus was that it escaped ofcom regulation. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
Freeview links to the Internet
On 28/02/2013 20:23, naffer wrote:
With my new Smart TV I have been exploring some of the more weird channels. Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. I have reasons to have this site looked at by Ofcom. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? (Please: No flames about the rights or wrongs of the site itself, this query seeks clarification about what is the status of this hybrid type of broadcasting). Ideas, facts, thoughts? http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/...-sex-channels/ there you go - seems as if, being legal in the home country allows it's internet (via tv) broadcast to uk -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
Freeview links to the Internet
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, naffer writes With my new Smart TV I have been exploring some of the more weird channels. Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. I have reasons to have this site looked at by Ofcom. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? (Please: No flames about the rights or wrongs of the site itself, this query seeks clarification about what is the status of this hybrid type of broadcasting). Ideas, facts, thoughts? Just had a look. God TV. "The Father has told us to get ready", Donate Now. "Prepare for Revival" Donate Now. "Become a God TV Angel" Donate Now. Target: 2.5 Million Dollars, Banked :1.804,348 Dollars. It appears to be a begging channel. -- Ian |
Freeview links to the Internet
Well there is a surprise.
maybe I could set up a support the uk disabled channel, or something grin. I can see it now, The next big thing in begging. No need to sit on street corners, just set up a web site and rake in the dosh. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Ian" wrote in message ... In message , naffer writes With my new Smart TV I have been exploring some of the more weird channels. Example: At #235 on Freeview there is a channel that links via my router to a "religious" channel. I have reasons to have this site looked at by Ofcom. Is this way of broadcasting is a TV prog. or internet link ? (Please: No flames about the rights or wrongs of the site itself, this query seeks clarification about what is the status of this hybrid type of broadcasting). Ideas, facts, thoughts? Just had a look. God TV. "The Father has told us to get ready", Donate Now. "Prepare for Revival" Donate Now. "Become a God TV Angel" Donate Now. Target: 2.5 Million Dollars, Banked :1.804,348 Dollars. It appears to be a begging channel. -- Ian |
Freeview links to the Internet
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:37:11 +0000, Ian
wrote: Just had a look. God TV. "The Father has told us to get ready", Donate Now. "Prepare for Revival" Donate Now. "Become a God TV Angel" Donate Now. Target: 2.5 Million Dollars, Banked :1.804,348 Dollars. It appears to be a begging channel. I once found myself working on a location shoot for the God channel. I'd never heard of it at the time, but there we were. It was an open-air pop concert at Alton Towers. I kid you not, they stopped for prayers halfway through... Rod. |
Freeview links to the Internet
Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort of thing
a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently. Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a little creepy? A kind of naivity coupled with blatent indoctrination. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Roderick Stewart" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:37:11 +0000, Ian wrote: Just had a look. God TV. "The Father has told us to get ready", Donate Now. "Prepare for Revival" Donate Now. "Become a God TV Angel" Donate Now. Target: 2.5 Million Dollars, Banked :1.804,348 Dollars. It appears to be a begging channel. I once found myself working on a location shoot for the God channel. I'd never heard of it at the time, but there we were. It was an open-air pop concert at Alton Towers. I kid you not, they stopped for prayers halfway through... Rod. |
Freeview links to the Internet
On 02/03/2013 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort of thing a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently. Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a little creepy? All religions are a little creepy, at best. |
Freeview links to the Internet
Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
On 02/03/2013 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote: Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort of thing a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently. Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a little creepy? All religions are a little creepy, at best. Mind you...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Freeview links to the Internet
Mark Carver wrote:
Mind you...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video Where've you been all week Mr Carver? Or was it a case of nowt to say, so saying nowt (uncommon on newsgroups I know)? Bill |
Freeview links to the Internet
Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote: Mind you...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video Where've you been all week Mr Carver? Or was it a case of nowt to say, so saying nowt (uncommon on newsgroups I know)? Ha, no, I've been in Belgium on some intensive work, and by the time I sat down down with a glass or two of 'multi-alcoholic-unit' local Belgian beer, I was too tired and emotional to contribute anything sensible in here ! -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Freeview links to the Internet
On 02/03/2013 11:27, Mark Carver wrote:
Mike O'Sullivan wrote: On 02/03/2013 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote: Oh I'm not surprised. There was i think a programme about this sort of thing a few years ago from the USA. It all started there apparently. Is it me or are all semi religeous radio and tv stations just a little creepy? All religions are a little creepy, at best. Mind you...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/feb/12/lightning-vatican-peter-basilica-video As creepy s a Scottish Cardinal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21649475 Derek |
Freeview links to the Internet
Some thoughts about GOD TV programming.
If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream. If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ and lots more steams, all running in parallel. The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA features. More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests! They appear to have studios in Jerusalem. In summary I think it reasonable to assume that this is a money machine which streams religious videos on the basis of their dramatic quality often with conflicting messages so as to attract the attention of the weak minded, then beg for money. And the Israeli angle: Is this a front organisation that is directing money into Israel, with the support of the Israeli authorities? If so, it's probably not very legal in the UK. My OP was sent to get a clarification as to what part of Ofcom I should direct a complaint, especially about their political role in evicting Bedouin villages. |
Freeview links to the Internet
On 03/03/2013 20:22, Buddlington wrote:
Some thoughts about GOD TV programming. If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream. If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ and lots more steams, all running in parallel. The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA features. More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests! They appear to have studios in Jerusalem. In summary I think it reasonable to assume that this is a money machine which streams religious videos on the basis of their dramatic quality often with conflicting messages so as to attract the attention of the weak minded, then beg for money. And the Israeli angle: Is this a front organisation that is directing money into Israel, with the support of the Israeli authorities? If so, it's probably not very legal in the UK. My OP was sent to get a clarification as to what part of Ofcom I should direct a complaint, especially about their political role in evicting Bedouin villages. you'd need to know where in europe it's streamed from - if it's legal in that country, ofcom can't really do anything. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
Freeview links to the Internet
It seems to be streaming from Israel.
That says two things: 1. It's harder to stop in UK & elsewhere, & 2. Who are the real beneficiaries? BUT, does its route via Freeview give Ofcom a reason to look? |
Freeview links to the Internet
"Buddlington" wrote in message
... Some thoughts about GOD TV programming. If you look at on Freeview you get the UK stream. If you look at it via the internet you'll see that there are USA,UK,ASIA,OZ and lots more steams, all running in parallel. The odd thing is that the material, videos of events & lectures, is rotated around the various streams. So yesterday's UK programmes are tomorrow's USA features. More interesting is that they have material from very creepy "preachers" who have been utterly discredited elsewhere. Very oddly, they have a common theme of support for Israel even to the point of supporting efforts by the Israeli authorities in their plans to evict Arabs so as to plant forests! They appear to have studios in Jerusalem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe they are 'Christian Zionists' who believe that the return of the Jews to Palestine is a prerequisite of the second coming of Christ, and all the Jews must convert to Christianity. So they're not really pro Jewish. -- Max Demian |
Freeview links to the Internet
Is this true?
If so, then someone could pay for a Freeview channel and then switch to the net and broadcast anything? Why can't Ofcom stop this abuse? Why does the Freeview Company allow it? |
Freeview links to the Internet
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT), naffer
wrote: This ain't about religion, this is relevant to a Digital-TV Group. I think that they only get away with this scam on Freeview because they can exploit the fact that many new TVs are "Smart" in that they can automatically link to users' wireless routers and the web. I'm sure this nonsense has gone on for ages via Astra but I thought Freeview was terrestrial and subject to some sort of UK control. If the internet stream is selected by the TV or PVR then it's nothing to do with Freeview. Think of it as a bit like a link on a web page, where the web page is the software in your receiver, directing you to somewhere else. The material to which it directs you is not the responsibility of any of our broadcasters just because you watch it on the same screen. Rod. |
Freeview links to the Internet
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:17:18 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT), naffer wrote: This ain't about religion, this is relevant to a Digital-TV Group. I think that they only get away with this scam on Freeview because they can exploit the fact that many new TVs are "Smart" in that they can automatically link to users' wireless routers and the web. I'm sure this nonsense has gone on for ages via Astra but I thought Freeview was terrestrial and subject to some sort of UK control. If the internet stream is selected by the TV or PVR then it's nothing to do with Freeview. Think of it as a bit like a link on a web page, where the web page is the software in your receiver, directing you to somewhere else. The material to which it directs you is not the responsibility of any of our broadcasters just because you watch it on the same screen. I think the OP may have been talking about the internet channels that *are* include in the Freeview EPG at LCNs 225 to 236. The Freeview channel information from freeview.co.uk (the official site) includes them in the list of Freeview channels: http://www.freeview.co.uk/wp-content...annelGuide.pdf Streamed Channels Only available with a compatible Freeview HD box or TV - 2012 model onwards; broadband required 225 VISION 226 CCTV 227 Sports 228 Christian 229 Connect 2 230 Vision 2 231 Racing TV 232 The Space 233 Showcase 234 Connect 4 235 God TV 236 Sony SAB -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
Freeview links to the Internet
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:44:00 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:17:18 +0000, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT), naffer wrote: This ain't about religion, this is relevant to a Digital-TV Group. I think that they only get away with this scam on Freeview because they can exploit the fact that many new TVs are "Smart" in that they can automatically link to users' wireless routers and the web. I'm sure this nonsense has gone on for ages via Astra but I thought Freeview was terrestrial and subject to some sort of UK control. If the internet stream is selected by the TV or PVR then it's nothing to do with Freeview. Think of it as a bit like a link on a web page, where the web page is the software in your receiver, directing you to somewhere else. The material to which it directs you is not the responsibility of any of our broadcasters just because you watch it on the same screen. I think the OP may have been talking about the internet channels that *are* include in the Freeview EPG at LCNs 225 to 236. The Freeview channel information from freeview.co.uk (the official site) includes them in the list of Freeview channels: http://www.freeview.co.uk/wp-content...annelGuide.pdf Streamed Channels Only available with a compatible Freeview HD box or TV - 2012 model onwards; broadband required 225 VISION 226 CCTV 227 Sports 228 Christian 229 Connect 2 230 Vision 2 231 Racing TV 232 The Space 233 Showcase 234 Connect 4 235 God TV 236 Sony SAB Further - The on-screen information says that LCN228 Christian and LCN235 God TV are "Powered by CONNECT-TV". Connect-TV holds a licence for this purpose from Ofcom. From this it seems that there are three types of licence: TLCS - Television Licensable Content Service Licence DTPS - Digital Television Programme Service Licence DTAS - Digital Television Additional Service Licence Connect-TV has a DTAS. http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-bro...updates/122011 -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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