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Dave Plowman (News) March 4th 13 08:36 PM

The evil of the unions: remember those absurd mimes on TOTP?
 
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
personally i've always thought there should be a specific law saying
that unions must be politically unbiased.


Which union are you a member of? All union policy is defined by their
members. All you need to do to change that policy is get enough support at
annual conference time.

trade union members vote for every party under the sun, yet the unions
are all labour lovers and openly expect to influence government policy -
and yet complain that companies that donate to other parties are trying
to do the same.


If governments kept their nose out of industry, you might have a point.

they should try to be proper worker representing unions instead and keep
their nose out of politics.


And organisations like the CBI? And most industries that spend money
lobbying parliament, etc?

--
*I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met *

Dave Plowman London SW
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Graham.[_2_] March 5th 13 10:11 PM

The evil of the unions: remember those absurd mimes on TOTP?
 
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:28:35 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

Agreed. It's awful. It makes me cringe every time I hear it. The
original purpose may have been to "correct" the pitch of a singer with
indifferent abilities, but sometimes the effect is so extreme I can
only assume they're doing it deliberately because some philistine
actually likes it. I usually have to wash my ears out with something
by Bach or Beethoven as soon as possible.

I think the gadget must work on the same principle as what used to be
called a "PA Stabiliser", in other words by creating a suppressed
carrier modulated signal from the voice track, then reinserting the
carrier with a slight offset to change the pitch of the audio. Because
it changes the pitch of all the frequency components by the same
linear amount, the harmonic relationships between them are destroyed,
and the greater the shift the worse it sounds.

Rod.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:13:37 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

While on the subject of enhancing of talents or making them worse, this
device that puts people back in tune is terribly audible, and if ill used
can make established artists sound weird.


There was an analogue satellite channel for the nursing profession
that used a very similar technique to scramble the sound. I has a
degree of success inserting the ultrasonic BFO signal.

I am sure in principle Autotune is how you describe it, I am equally
sure it is implemented entirely with DSP techniques.

I heard an interview with Cher about how she liked its (over)use on
"Believe"
Personally I have the same contempt for it as I did for those bloody
Syndrums in the '70s & 80s

--
Graham.

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