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Brian Gaff February 24th 13 04:51 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
Well, I'm of course not able to say, but from what I heare, as long as the
dish is aligned well and is big enough for where the person lives, there
are no issues with it at all.
I sytill have freeview, and its always losing program guide info, stations
appear in daft places etc, so I'd actually suggest Freeview is a bit of a
mess at the moment.

Brian

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"Clive" wrote in message
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From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?

I've got both, Freeview on the TV and a separate Freesat/HDD/Blu-Ray
cutter and the picture from the satellite is always good.
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Brian Gaff February 24th 13 04:53 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
Maybe we could start a business selling dish heaters to those who get a lot
of snow then?

Brian

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"Bill" wrote in message
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From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?


You have stated the main advantage.

After this it does depend somewhat on the location of the consumer, there
are some areas where Freeview reception is not good and satellite would be
better.
Satellite is less likely to suffer from local interference, thermostats,
trees, other radio transmitters, radio hams, CBers etc. and by the look
of news reports 4G too.

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There again satellite can suffer from problems in heavy rain and snow,
rain is temporary for the duration of the storm and can be mitigated by
using a larger dish. Snow can be similar, except when it sticks to the
dish, as it did to me a couple of weeks ago, when I lost all satellite
comm's for a day until the snow melted.

There is normally less to go wrong with a Freeview aerial than a dish,
alignment is not so critical and fewer electronics to fail.

Most TVs have a built in Freeview RX whereas a sat' RX would, obviously,
be needed for satellite.

OK they were disadvantages and you only asked for advantages, but I hope
it gives a slightly wider view. I'm sure others will be along with other
ideas too.

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tim..... February 24th 13 05:18 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 

"rbel" wrote in message ...

From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations?


ITYM a smaller selection of stations (if you ignore all of the dross)

Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?


No chance.

My Sat stopped working last Monday because we had half an inch of snow
overnight

tim



David Woolley[_2_] February 24th 13 05:57 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
Bill wrote:

Satellite is less likely to suffer from local interference, thermostats,
trees, other radio transmitters, radio hams, CBers etc. and by the look


Although, if the trees are on the line of sight, they will affect it
more than for DTT.

R. Mark Clayton February 24th 13 06:10 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 

rbel wrote in message ...

From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations?


Better bit rate, more HD, you can watch local programs from other areas.

Is it less prone to interference/reception problems?


Usually unless you have trees in the way.

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rbel[_2_] February 24th 13 06:38 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:16:15 +0000, rbel wrote:


From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?


Many thanks for the responses.

Having again looked through the Radio Times at the additional
programmes available via satellite (eg Sky) there still appears to be
very little that appeals to either of us. It is really a case of
ensuring that we can continue to receive the BBC stations and a couple
of others that SWMBO watches regularly in the future, post 4G roll-out
and, if possible mitigate the Freeview reception problems we
experience during to stormy weather due to the trees between us and
the Beacon Hill transmitter.

Beacon Hill and the trees are to the west of the property but we do
have relatively clear line of site to the east which I understand is
the direction of the relevant satellite.

I have been contemplating updating our TV and the recent reports of
the potential 4G problems, together with our close proximity to a
major transmitter serving most of the main phone organisations, are
leading me to look at the various alternatives. I appreciate that
filters will be available but I gather that there is no guarantee that
they will function in situations such as we have where channel 60 is
to carry the BBC output and close proximity to a 4G transmitter.

At the moment it is a case of looking at Freesat and deciding what, if
any, advantages it would provide over Freeview.
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rbel

David Kennedy[_2_] February 24th 13 06:44 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
On 24/02/2013 14:21, Bill Wright wrote:
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:16:15 +0000, rbel wrote:

From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?


A larger selection of rubbish is about it. The disadvantage is the
dish.

Steve

Who cares about a chuffin little dish 18" across? They're everywhere,
haven't you noticed, like windows and doors.

Bill

These days surely unless it's a new build, most houses have an aerial
and all new tvs sold have freeview so get a dish and you've got both.
The only real decision id SD or HD

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David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Richard Tobin February 24th 13 06:46 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
In article , rbel wrote:

From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?


It has the disadvantage that you need a separate cable to each tuner.

-- Richard


David Kennedy[_2_] February 24th 13 06:48 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
On 24/02/2013 14:48, NY wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:16:15 +0000, rbel wrote:

From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?

A larger selection of rubbish is about it. The disadvantage is the
dish.

Steve

Who cares about a chuffin little dish 18" across? They're everywhere,
haven't you noticed, like windows and doors.


The problem is not dish as such, it's the fact that it's usually mounted
on a wall relatively low down (eg first floor window level) whereas a TV
aerial, as well as being a bit smaller, is usually mounted higher up and
towards the ridge of the roof (eg on a chimney) where it is less visible.


That is surely due to most people going for the "free" installation from
Sky. Their installer want to put it as close to the set and as low as
possible to save them time. One installer told a neighbour that they
were not allowed by Sky to do roof installs and ended up nailing the
bracket to the fence...


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David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Woody[_4_] February 24th 13 06:54 PM

Satellite v Freeview
 
rbel wrote in message
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From a consumer's perspective does satellite viewing have any
advantages over Freeview other than a wider selection of
stations? Is
it less prone to interference/reception problems?
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rbel



Satellite has advantages - it is less likely to breakdown for
one, and you can watch any region not just the one where you
live.

Other replies have made the usual mistake - satellite does NOT
mean Sky. Freesat is pretty well a copy of Freeview. I have Humax
boxes for Freeview HD and Freesat HD and it is a close call
between them most of the time. The extra (mainly c**p) channels
available on Sky are a bonus if you are really bored out of your
nrain but most aren't worth the trouble.

There are comments about satellite dishes and their locations
with which in the main I would agree. I would have to agree that
most dish installs are done by poorly paid poorly motivated Sky
staff who erect the dish in the easiest place with the shortest
cable run. For most houses in the UK (other than older ones with
very steep/tall roofs) the dish can 'see' over the roof if it is
1m above the rear gutter - there is no need for it to be on the
front of the house. Likewise it does not need to be high up
provided it has clear sight roughly SSE.

Others have made comment about picture quality. Do remember that
Sky boxes run heavily *******ised software and are notoriously
deaf. My Humax Freesat box shows 90%+ signal and quality, but any
Sky box (and I have acces to three) on the same connection shows
only about 80% signal and 70% quality. OK these are subjective
and unrelated levels, but from what I have seen the picture
quality is consistently better and has less artifacts than off
any non-Sky box.

There is one real benefit of Sky: there are loads of radio
stations (many more than Freesat and including Classic FM)
generally at better audio quality than on Freeview. Incidently
don't be confused between Freesat (to which I refer) and Freesat
from Sky which is a different thing altogether.

There's an old joke: what do you find on the back of most
satellite dishes? A council house.

I rest my case, m'lud.


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Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com




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