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Rick February 15th 13 11:36 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.html


Ian February 16th 13 02:04 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml


My TV already does that.
--
Ian

Peter Duncanson February 16th 13 02:16 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:36:24 -0000, "Rick" wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.html


YouTube is already accessible via Humax Fox T2 Freeview boxes and
possibly other recent makes and models of Freeview box (I have no
experience with others). Some TV with an internet connection include a
YouTube app.



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David Park[_2_] February 16th 13 09:42 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
Does it need a new box?
If so I see no advantage over having my laptop plugged into the TV set.
Regards
David



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Brian Gaff February 16th 13 10:46 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
Why though. seems daft to me.

Brian

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UnsteadyKen[_2_] February 16th 13 11:33 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.

Peter Duncanson February 16th 13 12:29 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:33:28 -0000, UnsteadyKen
wrote:


Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.


Or YouTube might just be assigned a channel number in the EPG in the
same way as BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, BoxOffice365 and The Space (Ch 901,
903, 907 and 908 respectively). Those are all services using the
internet rather than satellite TV.



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Rick February 16th 13 12:50 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml


My TV already does that.


and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat





Max Demian February 16th 13 02:10 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:36:24 -0000, "Rick" wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.html


YouTube is already accessible via Humax Fox T2 Freeview boxes and
possibly other recent makes and models of Freeview box (I have no
experience with others). Some TV with an internet connection include a
YouTube app.


My Sony has a YouTube app, but how do I get "YouTube TV" on it? Is it the
same as "Google TV"?

--
Max Demian



Peter Duncanson February 16th 13 03:20 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:29:25 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:33:28 -0000, UnsteadyKen
wrote:


Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.


Or YouTube might just be assigned a channel number in the EPG in the
same way as BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, BoxOffice365 and The Space (Ch 901,
903, 907 and 908 respectively). Those are all services using the
internet rather than satellite TV.


It appears from this blog item from Giles Cottle, Head of Strategy at
Freesat, that YouTube will be part of the new "free time"
specification of Freesat. That is the one that includes the "backward"
entries in the EPG.
http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/why-fre...ouse-on-html5/

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Brian Gaff February 16th 13 07:05 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
Once upon a time life was simple.......

Brian

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"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...

Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.




Brian Gaff February 16th 13 07:08 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
As I say, what is the point. I see those on Freeview too, I need to connect
to the internet, so why have channel markers on the transmission, why not
make them wholly on line like most things are.Are they trying to fool folk
into thinking its all coming via the sat or the transmitter?

also, a lot of the online stuff, like the ones you subscribe to for films
seem unable to do audio description on the films that had it in the cinema.

Brian

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:33:28 -0000, UnsteadyKen
wrote:


Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.


Or YouTube might just be assigned a channel number in the EPG in the
same way as BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, BoxOffice365 and The Space (Ch 901,
903, 907 and 908 respectively). Those are all services using the
internet rather than satellite TV.



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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)




UK Traveller February 17th 13 06:03 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.


and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?
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Ian February 17th 13 06:41 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
In message , UK Traveller
writes
"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...-launch-tv-cha
nnel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?


No, the point is that you will.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...aunch-tv-chann
el-freesat
--
Ian

Peter Duncanson February 17th 13 07:03 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?


No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


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Peter Duncanson February 17th 13 07:21 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?


No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


I'll explain a little more. When you use YouTube from a computer or
handheld device you select what you what to view. The information saying
what it is you want to view is transmitted from your device to the
YouTube computers somewhere in the world. The material you have asked
for is then sent to your computer/device. It is a two way process with
data going from your device to the YouTube computers and then video and
audio data coming back in the reverse direction.

Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.

--
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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

alan February 17th 13 08:17 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On 16/02/2013 14:20, Peter Duncanson wrote:

It appears from this blog item from Giles Cottle, Head of Strategy at
Freesat, that YouTube will be part of the new "free time"
specification of Freesat. That is the one that includes the "backward"
entries in the EPG.


So Youtube TV is going to have in the EPG the many millions of videos
that the customer can chose from?




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Max Demian February 17th 13 11:47 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


I'll explain a little more. When you use YouTube from a computer or
handheld device you select what you what to view. The information saying
what it is you want to view is transmitted from your device to the
YouTube computers somewhere in the world. The material you have asked
for is then sent to your computer/device. It is a two way process with
data going from your device to the YouTube computers and then video and
audio data coming back in the reverse direction.

Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.


So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)

--
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Peter Duncanson February 17th 13 11:47 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:17:57 +0000, alan wrote:

On 16/02/2013 14:20, Peter Duncanson wrote:

It appears from this blog item from Giles Cottle, Head of Strategy at
Freesat, that YouTube will be part of the new "free time"
specification of Freesat. That is the one that includes the "backward"
entries in the EPG.


So Youtube TV is going to have in the EPG the many millions of videos
that the customer can chose from?


I haven't seen a specification but I assume that it will be similar to
the access to BBC iPlayer and ITV Player from the EPG: you select the
channel, 901 for BBC, 903 for ITV or perhaps 910 for YouTube, and you
then see a screen that is the interface via broadband to the the BBC,
ITV or YouTube servers.

You then work your way through the onscreen menus just as you would on a
PC, tablet computer or other device.

Like this for the BBC:
http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/image...rfreesat02.jpg


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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Roderick Stewart[_3_] February 18th 13 10:52 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:47:04 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:


Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.


So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)


I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive while running those consumer justice programmes
that expose and explain the same kind of technologically based
dishonesty in others, such as "unlimited" internet services.

Rod.

Richard Tobin February 18th 13 11:07 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
In article ,
Roderick Stewart wrote:

So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)


I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive


I'm not sure what you're objecting to. You're interacting with a
computer program in the TV. You choose options and get different
results, rather than just watching a fixed sequence. "Interactive"
doesn't imply two-way communication across a network.

-- Richard

Roderick Stewart[_3_] February 18th 13 11:24 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:07:41 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:


So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)


I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive


I'm not sure what you're objecting to. You're interacting with a
computer program in the TV. You choose options and get different
results, rather than just watching a fixed sequence. "Interactive"
doesn't imply two-way communication across a network.


On that basis, anything with knobs on can be called interactive. I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Rod.

tim..... February 18th 13 11:53 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?


No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


I'll explain a little more.


and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

tim




Peter Duncanson February 18th 13 12:27 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:53:05 -0000, "tim....."
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


I'll explain a little more.


and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

:-)

--
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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Steve Thackery[_2_] February 18th 13 12:48 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.


Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.

--
SteveT

Rick February 18th 13 01:03 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:53:05 -0000, "tim....."
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked
out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in
the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is
the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more.


and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

:-)


An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse, which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?








Peter Duncanson February 18th 13 01:03 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.


Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.


Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Dave Farrance February 18th 13 04:07 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
"Rick" wrote:

An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse, which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?


Do you mean a Youtube app built into your TV rather than an app on the Pi?

Ian February 18th 13 06:01 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.


Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.


Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


Don't forget about the occasional programme where you can join in by
using the red button service.

It's been used mainly on quiz shows (Play Along), but I've noticed that
most of the time it only works for Sky viewers, even on the Beeb.
--
Ian

Rick February 18th 13 06:31 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 


"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Rick" wrote:

An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application
on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse,
which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can
only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?


Do you mean a Youtube app built into your TV rather than an app on the Pi?


The Youtube app built into the Samsung smart TV will only allow me to search
with the remote control, where almost every other function will work quite
happily and speedily from a wireless keyboard and mouse, the Samsung's
remote also operates the Raspberry Pi via Anynet+ and although just like the
TV most of the Pi's apps can be controlled using a wireless keyboard and
mouse (e.g. BBC iplayer) the Youtube program on the Pi seems to be the one
applications that won't accept commands other than from a remote control,
making searching a rather ponderous process.


Roderick Stewart[_3_] February 18th 13 06:48 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:07:34 +0000, Dave Farrance
wrote:


An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse, which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?


Do you mean a Youtube app built into your TV rather than an app on the Pi?


The "Youtube app" installed on my media centre PC works just fine with
a standard cordless mouse on my coffee table.

It's called Firefox.

Rod.

Peter Duncanson February 18th 13 07:15 PM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:01:12 +0000, Ian wrote:

In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.


Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


Don't forget about the occasional programme where you can join in by
using the red button service.

It's been used mainly on quiz shows (Play Along), but I've noticed that
most of the time it only works for Sky viewers, even on the Beeb.


That needs some means of communication back from the box to the
programme-maker. With a Sky box that would be via the phone line
connected to the box.

I don't know whether there are yet arrangements for that sort of reverse
communication on a Freeview or Freesat box with a broadband connection.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Ian February 19th 13 02:04 AM

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 
In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:01:12 +0000, Ian wrote:

In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.

Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


Don't forget about the occasional programme where you can join in by
using the red button service.

It's been used mainly on quiz shows (Play Along), but I've noticed that
most of the time it only works for Sky viewers, even on the Beeb.


That needs some means of communication back from the box to the
programme-maker. With a Sky box that would be via the phone line
connected to the box.

I don't know whether there are yet arrangements for that sort of reverse
communication on a Freeview or Freesat box with a broadband connection.


I've used it before, on a box without a net connection.

The last time was an Antiques Roadshow, where we had to predict the
value of objects.

It also used to be included in "Millionaire", and "Test the Nation".
--
Ian


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