Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

In article ,
Roderick Stewart wrote:

So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)

I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive

I'm not sure what you're objecting to. You're interacting with a
computer program in the TV. You choose options and get different
results, rather than just watching a fixed sequence. "Interactive"
doesn't imply two-way communication across a network.

-- Richard

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:07:41 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:


So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)

I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive

I'm not sure what you're objecting to. You're interacting with a
computer program in the TV. You choose options and get different
results, rather than just watching a fixed sequence. "Interactive"
doesn't imply two-way communication across a network.

On that basis, anything with knobs on can be called interactive. I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Rod.

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more.

and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

tim

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:53:05 -0000, "tim....."
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more.

and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

:-)

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.

--
SteveT

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:53:05 -0000, "tim....."
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick
writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD
satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked
out
the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in
the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player
(which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this
receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is
the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the
Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left
slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the
whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or
whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more.

and there was me thinking you were going to explain how the thousands of
available "programs" on YouTube were going to be incorporated into an EPG
:-)

:-)


An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse, which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.

Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

"Rick" wrote:

An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse, which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?

Do you mean a Youtube app built into your TV rather than an app on the Pi?

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:48:55 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

I
don't see the Freeview red button as anything other than a gimmicky
and needlessly complicated way of watching a different channel.

Yes - completely agree with that. It's an odd definition of
"interactive" to my mind.

Someone seems to have come up with the description "interactive" years
ago, and it has stuck. The red button text service is also described as
interactive. That is perhaps slightly more understandable in that the
viewer is "interacting" with the TV by frequent button-pressing.


Don't forget about the occasional programme where you can join in by
using the red button service.

It's been used mainly on quiz shows (Play Along), but I've noticed that
most of the time it only works for Sky viewers, even on the Beeb.
--
Ian

Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.
 

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Rick" wrote:

An annoying feature on Youtube is that on almost every other application
on
my Samsung smart TV and Raspberry Pi, I can use a keyboard and mouse,
which
makes life so much easier, however the Youtube app insists that you can
only
use the rather tedious scroll and select using the remote control when
searching, which is a right PITA, does anyone here know why this is?

Do you mean a Youtube app built into your TV rather than an app on the Pi?


The Youtube app built into the Samsung smart TV will only allow me to search
with the remote control, where almost every other function will work quite
happily and speedily from a wireless keyboard and mouse, the Samsung's
remote also operates the Raspberry Pi via Anynet+ and although just like the
TV most of the Pi's apps can be controlled using a wireless keyboard and
mouse (e.g. BBC iplayer) the Youtube program on the Pi seems to be the one
applications that won't accept commands other than from a remote control,
making searching a rather ponderous process.