OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able to watch
videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from disk/memory. Probably .avi
and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD images. Resolution not
critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

Issues: main ones I see so far ( and I drew on Bill Wright's request for
help with MP3 players for a similar set of circs last year) a

- battery life: I am sure the hospital won't allow PSUs plugged into
their sockets so need several hours minimum between recharges;

- battery recharge: given the above, is the only practicable answer
to daily use to have 2 devices and swap them each day? Or is there a
device which has removable batteries but is also...

- light: this has to be capable of being handled by a pretty poorly
patient;

- easy to use: the patient knows MS products and VLC so those would
probably be better than - say - Linux.

This seems to be pointing to a couple of tablets. But I've not been
there, done them. And if I may quote from Bill Wright last year "Please
don't answer with a lot of detail and technicalities. I just don't have
the time or the energy at the moment. Just some basic info would be
great."

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In article ,
Robin wrote:
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able to watch
videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from disk/memory. Probably .avi
and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD images. Resolution not
critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

Issues: main ones I see so far ( and I drew on Bill Wright's request for
help with MP3 players for a similar set of circs last year) a

- battery life: I am sure the hospital won't allow PSUs plugged into
their sockets so need several hours minimum between recharges;

Daughter 2, in maternity wing of major NHS hospital had no problem in using
mains outlets for phone and iplayer.

I'd check up on this before spendfing lots on battery operated items

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Robin wrote:


Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.


Hospitals generally want to get you out as soon as you are stable, so I
would assume most of the time will be in a nursing home.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Robin wrote:

- battery life: I am sure the hospital won't allow PSUs plugged into
their sockets so need several hours minimum between recharges;
Have you asked? Don't, because you'd get the official answer. But the
reality is different. I have considerable experience here (four
hospitals; countless wards) and only once did anyone say anything. That
turned out to be a an auxiliary who was just talking ********. It is
normal now for patients to have their phones on charge and to be using
laptops etc.
For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones etc
are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.

This seems to be pointing to a couple of tablets. But I've not been
there, done them. And if I may quote from Bill Wright last year "Please
don't answer with a lot of detail and technicalities. I just don't have
the time or the energy at the moment. Just some basic info would be
great."
In the event, Hil was too ill for a long time to use anything herself,
but visiting times were very flexible, so I would take something in (it
varied, we had a little Archos player and sometimes I used the laptop.)
I would record a hour or so of stuff she wanted to see and we'd sit
together and watch it. That as all she wanted. She wasn't up to watching
any more telly. Your patient will most likely be the same, at least for
a while.
You have to be sensitive about noise levels. Some wards are noisy and
you can play programmes at normal volume, but some are very quiet, so
earphones are good.
As regards visiting times, I found that as long as as I avoided doctor
rounds etc I was welcome at any time. This was unofficial of course, but
since I was going in at mealtimes and feeding Hil the staff were glad I
was there. And at other times, as long as we were quiet there was no
problem. I made a point of being generally useful when Hil was in the
stroke ward, helping the other patients a bit, all that sort of stuff.
The staff are overstretched in that sort of ward so they are always glad
of help.
The clinical and nursing staff are generally pragmatic and humane. The
problems come from the beancounters upstairs. I have found myself in
many a conspiracy with staff in order to circumvent absurd rules imposed
from above.
The visits rules are there to back up the staff when people are stupid.
For instance this African woman was in the next bed. She was very ill
(this was in HDU) yet the whole bloody tribe turned up and they were
very noisy, wailing and going at it. You can't have that in HDU. This is
not Africa, and anyway I doubt if it did her any good having all that
wailing going on. It would have put the wind up me.
Then there was the time when the entire congregation of this woman's
church turned up and started holding a happy-clappy service at the
bedside. What a racket! They were soon booted out.

With practice you can play the NHS like a good old violin. You just need
to get into the mindset, and manipulate individuals on that basis.

All these experiences were gained in Yorkshire hospitals. It might be
different down south, you know, funny ideas and all that. I once went to
Bawtry and that was far enough for me.

Bill

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able to watch
videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from disk/memory. Probably .avi
and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD images. Resolution not
critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd want the 64gb
version if you plan on filling it with video which isn't cheap. It's a
brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a
Micro SD card slot so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.


--
Alex

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able to watch
videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from disk/memory. Probably .avi
and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD images. Resolution not
critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd want the
64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which isn't cheap.
It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab
has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something it
likes wouldn't it?

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones etc
are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.

In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.

The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at least
one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has to be
subject to a free PAT test, first.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In article , Robin wrote:


- easy to use: the patient knows MS products and VLC so those would
probably be better than - say - Linux.

Some confusion there. VLC works fine on Linux, as on other platforms. So
choosing MS would be a matter of habituation rather than wanting VLC.

As others have said, it looks like a tablet (or maybe one of the dedicated
portable DVD players?) might do best.

Slainte,

Jim

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able to watch
videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from disk/memory. Probably .avi
and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD images. Resolution not
critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks or days
so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd want the
64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which isn't cheap.
It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab
has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something it
likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones
etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.

In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.

The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at least
one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has to be
subject to a free PAT test, first.

I've had recent experience of both NHS and private hospitals in
Hampshire, none of them even bat an eyelid at any 'personal' electrical
kit plugged in to their sockets.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:25:24 -0000, "Robin" wrote:

- battery life: I am sure the hospital won't allow PSUs plugged into
their sockets so need several hours minimum between recharges;

Because of a chronic health problem I am in hospital for days, weeks
or sometimes months at a time. I always take a laptop and a phone.
Both are plugged in recharging as required and nobody has ever
objected. The possible interference with medical equipment has long
been disproved apart from very rare occasions when very sensitive
monitoring is being done.

Steve

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones
etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.

In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.

The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at least
one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has to be
subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

Bill

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd want the
64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which isn't cheap.
It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab
has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something it
likes wouldn't it?

Nope, AVPlayerHD is one of a number of apps that will play pretty much any
video file. I've not needed to convert anything on mine. You can upload
files either through a HTTPS session or syncing them through iTunes.


--
Alex

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In message , Bill Wright
writes
David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones
etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.
In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.
The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at
least one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has
to be subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?
--
Ian

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bill Wright
writes
David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones
etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.
In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.
The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at
least one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has
to be subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have eliminated a
lot of potential failures.

--
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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In message , charles
writes
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bill Wright
writes
David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones
etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.
In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.
The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at
least one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has
to be subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have eliminated a
lot of potential failures.

And a quick visual inspection would virtually eliminate all of those?
--
Ian

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , charles
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Bill Wright
writes
David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible. Most/all
hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on phones etc are
pretty well gone. If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket,
not one marked 'essential' as that is on a special circuit.
In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing. The NHS now
outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at least one of
those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it has to be
subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have eliminated a
lot of potential failures.

And a quick visual inspection would virtually eliminate all of those?

certainly the ones where the outer sheath doesn't reach the cord grip.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:03 +0000, wrote:


I wonder if anyone has ever taken in a soldering Iron? Knocking up a
brass model kit or a circuit board would be a good way of passing
time.
The late railway enthusiast, Rev Teddy Boston, apparently did a bit of
railway modelling in hospital but I don't know that included using a
soldering iron. (He also had more visitors than specified by the rules
but I think he got away with it.)

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:35:20 UTC, charles
wrote:

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have eliminated a
lot of potential failures.



Many many years before PAT tests we routinely cut off molded plugs and
fitited new MK ones - because all plugs had to be fitted by the
company electrician.........
--
Regards
Dave Saville

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:23:13 +0000 (UTC), Dave Saville
wrote:

Many many years before PAT tests we routinely cut off molded plugs and
fitited new MK ones - because all plugs had to be fitted by the
company electrician.........

Now we do the exact opposite.
If it hasn't got a moulded plug it's almost certainly going to
get replaced with a lead that has.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

I was graetful for this and all the other replies. I am responding
briefly here because clearly you have the t-shirt. .

Friends lent me both an iPad and an Android based tablet (can't recall
what make/flavour) which I took in today. But they don't offer the same
interface as Windows. And when you can't recall where you are or what
day it is for more than 10 minutes it ain't the time to learn a new GUI.
(I think the same'd be true of Linux: it may be VLC Jim, but it ain't
Windows Explorer as we know it IIRC; you don't hibernate in the same
way; etc)

As regards plugging in, in ITU/HDU they wouldn't wear it - and I don't
blame them given the set-up there with the sockets on ceiling-mounted
wotsits which rotate. But they said main wards are less fussy and/or I
could recharge in the admin area.

Also, you were right so far that an hour or 2 is all that's needed (at
least for now).

So for now we are running with her netbook. Crappy picture compared to
the tablets but she knows how to use it and that helps her
self-confidence.

I'd look further at a tablet which came with XP/Vista/7 (all of which
she knows). But not Windows 8. And I ain't got time to do a custom
job.

As regards the North-South divide, I find a bars of Green & Blacks and
boxes of choccie bikkies smooth the path with the nurses. (I've never
understood the way people buy chocolates etc *after* hospital stays. I
can only speak as a visiting relative but it's always seemed to me
better to try to ingratiate onself as one goes along while it can still
make a difference in terms of warmer hands, gentler catheter insetions,
etc) I do apprecaite though that there are different strokes for
different folks. Eg I see nothing in filling a nurse's bath with coal
:)

Thanks again - and apologies in advance if I don't respond to any
follow-ups for a while


--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Robin wrote:

Thanks again - and apologies in advance if I don't respond to any
follow-ups for a while

I think I can speak for everyone who has contributed to this discussion
in hoping that the present crisis has a happy, or at least tolerable,
outcome.

Bill

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In article , Robin wrote:
I was graetful for this and all the other replies. I am responding
briefly here because clearly you have the t-shirt. .

Friends lent me both an iPad and an Android based tablet (can't recall
what make/flavour) which I took in today. But they don't offer the same
interface as Windows. And when you can't recall where you are or what
day it is for more than 10 minutes it ain't the time to learn a new GUI.
(I think the same'd be true of Linux: it may be VLC Jim, but it ain't
Windows Explorer as we know it IIRC; you don't hibernate in the same
way; etc)

It's of course your choice, based on the circumstances, but...

You'd have to say what versions/distros/etc of 'Linux' you have in mind.
And which 'Windows'. They both vary in GUI, and some 'Linux' distros adopt
a look and feel similar to various versions of 'Windows', precisely to make
life easer for those familiar with 'Windows' who struggle to cope with - or
simply don't want - changes.

Afraid I don't know why you think Explorer is relevant to VLC, nor why you
you think hibernation must be a problem.

FWIW Android is, under the commercial fluff, actually based on Linux. But,
as with iPlods, etc, the flexibility of the system may be tied down out of
sight of the user by the makers. Commercial vendors like to have their own
'look and feel' and hide anything they've, erm, 'borrowed' from elsewhere.
:-)

Hope all goes well,

Jim

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able
to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks
or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which
isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like
a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a
lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something
it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using AVPlayerHD.

--

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On 29/01/2013 13:48, Ashley Booth wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able
to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks
or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which
isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like
a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a
lot cheaper - half the price.


the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something
it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using AVPlayerHD.

The download links are all here

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/#download

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On 29/01/2013 13:48, Ashley Booth wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able
to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks
or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which
isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like
a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a
lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something
it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using AVPlayerHD.

You can simply type VLC into the search box on the iTunes store and
there are a number of choices most of them free

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On 29/01/2013 13:48, Ashley Booth wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be able
to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than weeks
or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video which
isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but something like
a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot so that will be a
lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to something
it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using AVPlayerHD.

You can simply type VLC into the search box on the iTunes store and
there are a number of choices most of them free

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

All these experiences were gained in Yorkshire hospitals. It might be
different down south, you know, funny ideas and all that. I once went to
Bawtry and that was far enough for me.

Bill

Tickhill Spital sounds like a medical condition, and Scrooby is a
Hanna Barbera character, or should be.

I'm in Batley tommorow.

Nice useful post by the way. Thanks.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Graham. wrote:
All these experiences were gained in Yorkshire hospitals. It might be
different down south, you know, funny ideas and all that. I once went to
Bawtry and that was far enough for me.

Bill

Tickhill Spital sounds like a medical condition, and Scrooby is a
Hanna Barbera character, or should be.
Ah but we have Goldthorpe, so called because property prices there are
the highest in the north of England. Crime there is almost non-existent.
The local grammar school is in the top five for the whole country. All
the dogs have pedigrees.


I'm in Batley tommorow.

Nice useful post by the way. Thanks.
My pleasure. If you meant me.

Bill

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

In message , Bill Wright
writes
Graham. wrote:
All these experiences were gained in Yorkshire hospitals. It might
be different down south, you know, funny ideas and all that. I once
went to Bawtry and that was far enough for me.

Bill
Tickhill Spital sounds like a medical condition, and Scrooby is a
Hanna Barbera character, or should be.
Ah but we have Goldthorpe, so called because property prices there are
the highest in the north of England. Crime there is almost
non-existent. The local grammar school is in the top five for the
whole country. All the dogs have pedigrees.

Surely not another place where "where all the women are strong, all the
men are good looking, and all the children are above average"?

I'm in Batley tommorow.
Nice useful post by the way. Thanks.
My pleasure. If you meant me.


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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

David Kennedy wrote:

On 29/01/2013 13:48, Ashley Booth wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be
able to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer
widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than
weeks or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good
solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video
which isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but
something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot
so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.




the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to
something it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using
AVPlayerHD.

You can simply type VLC into the search box on the iTunes store and
there are a number of choices most of them free

None of them are the VLC Media Player.

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

David Kennedy wrote:

On 29/01/2013 13:48, Ashley Booth wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/01/2013 08:03, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On 28/01/2013 07:45, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Robin" wrote in message
...
Background: seriously ill patient in hospital wants to be
able to watch videos - not broadcast or iPlayer but from
disk/memory. Probably .avi and .mkv wrappers. Possibly DVD
images. Resolution not critical but would prefer
widescreen.

Budget: I hope this will be used over months rather than
weeks or days so I'm game for £ several hundreds for a good
solution.

I don't think there's much point looking outside the Tablet
marketplace.

An iPad will do the job very nicely, but it sounds like you'd
want the 64gb version if you plan on filling it with video
which isn't cheap. It's a brilliant bit of kit IMO, but
something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Micro SD card slot
so that will be a lot cheaper - half the price.


the ipad would need all the mkv videos etc converting to
something it likes wouldn't it?

what about

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html

I can't find VLC Media Player on the Apps store. I'm using
AVPlayerHD.

The download links are all here

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/#download

In order to download the app you have to go to the Apps store. I don't
want to download the source code.

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"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
...

In order to download the app you have to go to the Apps store. I don't
want to download the source code.

I believe VLC player was only briefly available on the app store and was
then pulled by Apple as it infringed some of their rules

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/...tore-20121115/

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

Dr Zoidberg wrote:


"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
...

In order to download the app you have to go to the Apps store. I
don't want to download the source code.

I believe VLC player was only briefly available on the app store and
was then pulled by Apple as it infringed some of their rules

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/...gpl-ready-to-h
ead-back-to-the-app-store-20121115/

Sounds more like the submitter of VLC to the apps store, Applidium,
infringed the terms of the GPL.

If the problem has been resolved why isn't an app by VideoLan available
in the store?

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:22:43 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

Having lived in a care home for over 11 years, and being a techy nerd,
I've got more plugs than you can shake a stick at. I've occasionally
had things failed.

- home-made extension lead, consisting of a pattress fitted to a piece
of wood with additional multiple cable clips

- home-made extension lead consisting of two 4-way adapters taped
together and running into an in-line insulated joiner complete with
cable grips

- phone charger with a frayed cord (5v, v low amps)

- computer speakers; powered by a wall-wart, the switch in the
speakers broke, so I fitten an in-line switch in the (6v low amp)
cable

- computer, as I was running it wth the side off.

All of which were failed for specious reasons in my belief.

Management of the sticky labels becomes a problem. After 11 years,
some of my equipment has developed a hard lacquer of stickyness!
mainly on the plugs.

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I know it doesn't answer your question, and I am sorry to hear of your
relative's ill health.

Last week I was in and was damn glad of my Note 2 with its huge
screen, HSDPA and iPlayer. Because PatientLine - or more accurately
the company that bought it out - now charges £10 a day for TV.

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Doug Paulley wrote:


- phone charger with a frayed cord (5v, v low amps)

Fire hazard. They can still put out enough watts into highish resistance
fault to start a fire. I think most care home fires are electrical.


- computer, as I was running it wth the side off.

Serious fire hazard, and danger of burns to anyone wearing anything
metal. PC power supplies might well generate over a kilowatt for long
enough to cause problems, before any fuse goes. The case will help to
contain any fire due to an internal fault.

I hope there were no short wave listeners or radio amateurs in or near
the home, as running a PC with case off will make RFI a big risk (as it
is, I suspect many PCs are built with boards that require a very good
case and cases that require a very good board, to make them compliant,
but using cheap cases and cheap boards.


All of which were failed for specious reasons in my belief.

I don't know who they use for the PAT testing, but PAT testing doesn't
have to be done by a qualified electrician, and for most of the things,
except for the PC, only really needs to be visual. That could mean that
the person they employ doesn't have the skills to evaluate the other
cases from first principles.

OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

charles wrote:
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bill Wright
writes
David Woolley wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

For a while bans were attempted in order to force patients to use
Patientline (etc) but that was soon seen as indefensible.
Most/all hospital equipment is RFI-proof. The days of bans on
phones etc are pretty well gone.
If you plug in look for an ordinary 13A socket, not one marked
'essential' as that is on a special circuit.
In terms of plugging in, the issue is PAT testing.
The NHS now outsources some work to private hospitals, and for at
least one of those, they allow equipment to be plugged in, but it
has to be subject to a free PAT test, first.
My experience is that this regulation is universally disregarded.

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have
eliminated a lot of potential failures.

IME after faulty flex, it's internal faults of switch mode PSUs leading to
excessive leakage to earth.(30ma)
and most things now have switch mode PSUs

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

"Steve Terry" wrote in message
...
charles wrote:
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have
eliminated a lot of potential failures.

IME after faulty flex, it's internal faults of switch mode PSUs leading to
excessive leakage to earth.(30ma)
and most things now have switch mode PSUs

But most 'things' now don't have an earth connection.

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OT[?]: Video player for hospital?
 

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:41:30 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Steve Terry" wrote in message
...
charles wrote:
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:

How many times do 'normal' things (computers, phones, TV sets etc)
actually fail a PAT test?

usually only if the flex is damaged. Moulded on plugs have
eliminated a lot of potential failures.

IME after faulty flex, it's internal faults of switch mode PSUs leading to
excessive leakage to earth.(30ma)
and most things now have switch mode PSUs

But most 'things' now don't have an earth connection.

Not via the mains lead, but the case/chassis could easily end up
earthed via interconnects to peripheral equipment.

The original Sky Digibox, Amstrad DRX200 did have a 3 core mains lead,
as did a Sony Sky box (IIRC)

As all Sky boxes were made to a strict BskyB spec, there must have
been a change.