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In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Are you sure ? You don't need to get your head examined, do you Bill ?

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On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:35:53 +0000, Bill Wright
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In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Bill

I didn't pick up on that, but I have to say it's the first situation
comedy on the Home Service that has made me laugh in a good while.

Most of them are embarrassingly dire.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bwp6g

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I don't think they understood it really.
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In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
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Graham. wrote:
I didn't pick up on that, but I have to say it's the first situation
comedy on the Home Service that has made me laugh in a good while.

Most of them are embarrassingly dire.

Eh? Like Old Harry's Game? Bleak Expectations? Clare in the Community?

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Mark Carver wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Are you sure ? You don't need to get your head examined, do you Bill ?

Had it done mate! They said it was all in the mind. So that's all right
then.

Bill

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Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:35:53 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really
sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Bill

I didn't pick up on that, but I have to say it's the first situation
comedy on the Home Service that has made me laugh in a good while.

Most of them are embarrassingly dire.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bwp6g

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the last
episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark (intended
as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class 1930s and the
central joke of the programme is the values of that era) a section of
the audience booed. This showed that they had totally misunderstood the
was the comedy worked, and reminded the rest of us what a deeply
intolerant lot the left/liberal people can be.

Bill

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Graham. wrote:
I didn't pick up on that, but I have to say it's the first situation
comedy on the Home Service that has made me laugh in a good while.

Most of them are embarrassingly dire.

Eh? Like Old Harry's Game? Bleak Expectations? Clare in the Community?

I have this odd thing that moments in programmes take me back to where I
was when i first heard them.
Claire in the Community: The Barlboro' junction on the M1, just leaving
the southbound and going onto the roundabout.
Old Harry's Game: the services on the M74 somewhere well north of
Carlise, just parking in a corner near some machinery.
Bleak Expectations: my office.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the last episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark (intended as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class 1930s and the central joke of the programme is the values of that era) a section of the audience booed.

Nice to hear you acknowledge that such remarks belong in the past.

BugBear

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Bill Wright wrote:
In 'Mr and Mrs Smith' on R4 at 11.30 someone said something really sceptical about anthropogenic global warming. Or was I dreaming?

Perhaps it was a joke.

BugBear

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bugbear wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the
last episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark
(intended as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class
1930s and the central joke of the programme is the values of that era)
a section of the audience booed.

Nice to hear you acknowledge that such remarks belong in the past.

Clearly you aren't aware that I am strongly in favour of gender
equality. I think you might be falling into the trap of assuming that
because a person is against uncontrolled immigration and
multiculturalism he must subscribe to all the other views that the
left/liberal sheep hate so much. You need to learn that some of us think
about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot be neatly
fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our opinions.

Here, for your future information, are my view in a nutshell:
Gender equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. However, we must bear in mind the fact that men and women are
different. It's wrong to pretend that they are the same. For instance
the absurd new rules on car insurance, which unfairly disadvantage young
women.
Racial equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to discuss.
Immigration: It should be stopped completely except for people this
country really needs (paying students, fully qualified professionals).
The population is going to increase unsustainably as it is, thanks to
all the S Asians breeding like flies.
Illegal immigrants: Straight into jail and then straight on the boat, no
arguing.
Multiculturalism: It doesn't work.
The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
Unmarried mothers: should be made to live either with their parents or
in an unpleasant hostel, not given a council flat.
The BNP: are racist idiots.
Wind turbines etc. CO2 emissions world-wide are increasing 3% a year.
The UK accounts for 2% of the total. If we cut our emissions by half it
would slow down world emissions by 4 months. The Industrial Revolution
showed that cheap energy is the key to economic growth. Why are we
taxing energy when the US and China aren't? Are we determined to become
a poor nation?
Childcare costs for married women who want to work: should be paid by
the state.
People who have a lifetime on the dole: should be dealt with most severely.
Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a choice: ten
years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one. The tough ones to
have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no telly. Otherwise just the
same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to give two months remission.
Every 'A' level passed to give four months remission. Every decent
degree to give a year's remission. (No soft subjects obviously). No-one
to leave prison until they are literate. Until you can read you stop inside.
Capital punishment: Never. Far too risky.
Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists and armed robbers.
Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone found in an occupied
house without good reason to be invited to leave. The form of words to
be prescribed and to be in plain English. No translations will be
available. If they don't immediately leave they are to have no rights
whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or boiled alive in virgin olive
oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bill

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:48:48 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

bugbear wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the
last episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark
(intended as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class
1930s and the central joke of the programme is the values of that
era) a section of the audience booed.

Nice to hear you acknowledge that such remarks belong in the past.

Clearly you aren't aware that I am strongly in favour of gender
equality. I think you might be falling into the trap of assuming that
because a person is against uncontrolled immigration and
multiculturalism he must subscribe to all the other views that the
left/liberal sheep hate so much. You need to learn that some of us
think about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot
be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our
opinions.

Here, for your future information, are my view in a nutshell:
Gender equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. However, we must bear in mind the fact that men and women
are different. It's wrong to pretend that they are the same. For
instance the absurd new rules on car insurance, which unfairly
disadvantage young women.
Racial equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. Immigration: It should be stopped completely except for
people this country really needs (paying students, fully qualified
professionals). The population is going to increase unsustainably as
it is, thanks to all the S Asians breeding like flies.
Illegal immigrants: Straight into jail and then straight on the boat,
no arguing.
Multiculturalism: It doesn't work.
The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
Unmarried mothers: should be made to live either with their parents
or in an unpleasant hostel, not given a council flat.
The BNP: are racist idiots.
Wind turbines etc. CO2 emissions world-wide are increasing 3% a year.
The UK accounts for 2% of the total. If we cut our emissions by half
it would slow down world emissions by 4 months. The Industrial
Revolution showed that cheap energy is the key to economic growth.
Why are we taxing energy when the US and China aren't? Are we
determined to become a poor nation?
Childcare costs for married women who want to work: should be paid by
the state.
People who have a lifetime on the dole: should be dealt with most
severely. Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a
choice: ten years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one.
The tough ones to have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no
telly. Otherwise just the same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to
give two months remission. Every 'A' level passed to give four months
remission. Every decent degree to give a year's remission. (No soft
subjects obviously). No-one to leave prison until they are literate.
Until you can read you stop inside. Capital punishment: Never. Far
too risky. Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists
and armed robbers. Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone
found in an occupied house without good reason to be invited to
leave. The form of words to be prescribed and to be in plain English.
No translations will be available. If they don't immediately leave
they are to have no rights whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or
boiled alive in virgin olive oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bill




Oh come on, Bill. Why waste virgin olive oil, when used engine or
chippy oil will do just as well?
I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.
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In article , Bill Wright wrote:
Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a choice: ten
years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one. The tough ones to
have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no telly. Otherwise just the
same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to give two months remission.
Every 'A' level passed to give four months remission. Every decent
degree to give a year's remission. (No soft subjects obviously). No-one
to leave prison until they are literate. Until you can read you stop inside.
Capital punishment: Never. Far too risky.
Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists and armed robbers.
Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone found in an occupied
house without good reason to be invited to leave. The form of words to
be prescribed and to be in plain English. No translations will be
available. If they don't immediately leave they are to have no rights
whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or boiled alive in virgin olive
oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bravo to that, particularly the bit about prisoners earning remission by
acquiring educational qualifications. Prison seems such an obscene waste of
money in terms of what it achieves, that at least it would be a step in the
right direction to ensure that the inmates didn't waste all of that expensive
time.

I would only add to the prison specifications that neither the tough nor the
soft options should include access to any computer games. From my own
admittedly limited observations, they all seem to be about killing people,
which given the circumstances would appear to be counterproductive.

Rod.
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Bill Wright wrote:
You need to learn that some of us think about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our opinions.

You object to me generalising about you, and promptly generalise about me.

Was that dumb retaliation, or simple hypocrisy?

BugBear

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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go out
in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly because
Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:28:14 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright wrote:
snip
I would only add to the prison specifications that neither the tough
nor the soft options should include access to any computer games.
From my own admittedly limited observations, they all seem to be
about killing people, which given the circumstances would appear to
be counterproductive.

Reduce the police force to Dutch levels and close half the prisons
like the Dutch are planning to do.

As half of our prisoners are there on drugs related charges if we
decriminalise drugs then you could close half our prisons, and free up
enormous amount of police time to do some proper policing

If we created a nationalised opiate manufacturing centre we could
buy up Afghan poppies putting money into their economy and
it would then cost a pittance to give drugs to registered users on the NHS

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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories

It needs even more protection against Labour.

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:49:37 -0000
"Steve Terry" wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go
out in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly
because Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry

And I'm now reading that, due to a differential in subsidies, some
high-output turbines are being de-rated to get below the threshold
which then pays more.
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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:31:53 +0000, bugbear
wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:
You need to learn that some of us think about each separate issue for ourselves,

and unlike you cannot be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that
describes all our opinions.
You object to me generalising about you, and promptly generalise about me.

Was that dumb retaliation, or simple hypocrisy?

Note that all feminists are raving lefties

I'm a feminist. I believe in full gender equality. What more do you want?

and that he doesn't propose
castration for men whose actions result in young single mothers.
Nor do I propose sterilisation for the females, which is the equivalent.
Come on, you know as well as I do that these girls get pregnant in order
to get a flat. The result is another child (or several) with no stable
family life and no father figure. The children become a burden on the
state, and so it goes on.

Bill

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In message , Steve Terry
writes
Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go out
in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly because
Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry

After Scottish independence, SE can draw power from the former Faslane
nuclear submarine base located on the Thames. :¬)
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:32:53 +0100, Martin wrote:

Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Now where have I heard that before...

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:11:07 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Come on, you know as well as I do that these girls get pregnant in order
to get a flat.

One of my carers works with young girls who are often put into that
group. She tells me she has never met a girl who got pregnant to get a
flat. She says most young girls who get pregnant intentionally really
want to have baby! That's certainly true in my family.

Steve

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:27:01 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Steve Terry
writes
Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go out
in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly because
Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry

After Scottish independence, SE can draw power from the former Faslane
nuclear submarine base located on the Thames. :¬)

Scotland will have to subsidise its own wind turbines, and buy our
nuclear generated power at a realistic price when the wind doesn't
blow.

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:48:48 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Immigration: It should be stopped completely except for people this
country really needs (paying students, fully qualified professionals).
The population is going to increase unsustainably as it is, thanks to
all the S Asians breeding like flies.

I've known two people who agree: a mid-brown Trinidadian man, amateur
historian (and drinking mate) who said that Enoch's speech was right - if
anyone bothered to listen to it properly and then an ex-girlfriend who was
from Cameroon.
Bothe came here with useful qualifications, gained more and worked.
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Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories

It needs even more protection against Labour.

Well I don't know, because the Blair government did seem to pump a lot
of money in.

Bill

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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories

It needs even more protection against Labour.

Well I don't know, because the Blair government did seem to pump a lot
of money in.

But they spent it in the wrong places and did even more damage than Tory
"cuts" (ie increases which aren't as much as asked for). AFAICT they
don't see it as a health service so much as an unemployment figure
fudging service by creating non-jobs. This has considerably worse
consequences than merely wasting money on their wages, because to make
them look busy and justified they have to do all sorts of crap which
interferes with the process of doctors and nurses actually getting on
with treating and caring for the patients.

And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

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In article , Stephen
Wolstenholme wrote:
Come on, you know as well as I do that these girls get pregnant in order
to get a flat.

One of my carers works with young girls who are often put into that
group. She tells me she has never met a girl who got pregnant to get a
flat. She says most young girls who get pregnant intentionally really
want to have baby! That's certainly true in my family.

Do they really want to earn the money to pay for their child's upbringing?

I really want a better house and a newer car. Can I expect the nation to pay
for these things just because I really want them?

Rod.
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:11:07 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Come on, you know as well as I do that these girls get pregnant in
order to get a flat.

One of my carers works with young girls who are often put into that
group. She tells me she has never met a girl who got pregnant to get a
flat. She says most young girls who get pregnant intentionally really
want to have baby! That's certainly true in my family.
Steve

Maybe not intentionally but i know of girls who were happy being
pregnant knowing it put them at the top of the housing association ladder

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Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories

It needs even more protection against Labour.

It's so fecked now, maybe we should adopt the French system

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Tony Houghton wrote:

And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.
There's the cost of the spanking new building, and of course that surly
teenager behind the desk has to be paid, even though she regards
patients as an unwelcome interruption to her social networking.

Bill

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Steve Terry wrote:

Maybe not intentionally but i know of girls who were happy being
pregnant knowing it put them at the top of the housing association ladder

They do it deliberately. "Me dad were getting on me wick, so I thought
I'd better get a flat." I've heard it so many times.

Bill

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Steve Terry wrote:
Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
It needs even more protection against Labour.

It's so fecked now, maybe we should adopt the French system

As a very intensive NHS user for the last ten years I don't agree.

Bill

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Pre NHS about 1946 in late August I was walking the two miles home from
school along the A41 in Warwickshire, the blackberries were in great
abundance on the roadside brambles. I picked and popped them in my mouth as
I walked. Without a care in the world I became careless and did not notice a
wasp on the blackberry. The sting caused my lips swell and were looking like
a ducks bill. With my mother we cycled three miles to a Doctors he sat at
desk and wrote on slip of paper and said take this to the chemists and
charged my mother 7 shillings and sixpence. The chemist advised how to apply
the mixture and charged a shilling. I have always appreciated the NHS since.

Some 15 years later I did some work for that Doctor and added a tenner to my
charge, sweeter than blackberries.

Bill Burgoyne

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Steve Terry wrote:
Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
It needs even more protection against Labour.

It's so fecked now, maybe we should adopt the French system

As a very intensive NHS user for the last ten years I don't agree.

Bill

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In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a
quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in
these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the
best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Tony Houghton wrote:

And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.
There's the cost of the spanking new building, and of course that surly
teenager behind the desk has to be paid, even though she regards
patients as an unwelcome interruption to her social networking.

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability. Before 1997 if I needed
treatment I could get an appointment about two weeks away even if it was
a root filling. Now I usually have to wait a month for an assessment,
then another month before they actually do anything. The few remaining
NHS dentists are heavily oversubscribed (the targets Labour set were
aimed at getting as many people on their books as possible, never mind
whether they can provide a prompt service to them with decent
remuneration for more complicated procedures), and I've had to change
surgeries three times, looking further afield, as they left the NHS.

For the last few years all my dentists have been foreign and very young;
presumably just out of University, gaining experience before going on to
a better job in the private sector asap. They seem very well trained on
the whole, but for some things you can't beat experience, and I've had a
couple of very nasty extractions as a result.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a
quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in
these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the
best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
--

My dentist always explains the options.

Bill

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Tony Houghton wrote:

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability.

There must be regional variations. Near here there is a dentist with a
huge poster on his gable: NHS patients welcome.

Bill

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In article ,
Tony Houghton wrote:
For the last few years all my dentists have been foreign and very young;
presumably just out of University, gaining experience before going on to
a better job in the private sector asap. They seem very well trained on
the whole, but for some things you can't beat experience, and I've had a
couple of very nasty extractions as a result.

Have you checked recently? The recession seems to have hit private
dentists quite hard - around here anyway. So more are taking NHS patients.

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Bill Wright wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS. However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
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My dentist always explains the options.

Maybe.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/05may/Pa...omplaints.aspx

BugBear

BBC let something slip through today
 

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Bill Wright wrote:

Tony Houghton wrote:

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability.

There must be regional variations. Near here there is a dentist with a
huge poster on his gable: NHS patients welcome.

Yes, there are regional variations, but the "postcode lottery" was very
much part of Labour's NHS policy. From what I heard in the news at the
time I was lucky to find another NHS dentist each time one closed, other
areas were much worse off.

Labour also made a last minute attempt to reverse the declining numbers
of NHS dentists which appears to have been partially successful, but has
nowhere near solved the problem as they claim. Not that there ever was a
problem, if you believed everything else they said!

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