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bugbear wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the
last episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark
(intended as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class
1930s and the central joke of the programme is the values of that era)
a section of the audience booed.

Nice to hear you acknowledge that such remarks belong in the past.

Clearly you aren't aware that I am strongly in favour of gender
equality. I think you might be falling into the trap of assuming that
because a person is against uncontrolled immigration and
multiculturalism he must subscribe to all the other views that the
left/liberal sheep hate so much. You need to learn that some of us think
about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot be neatly
fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our opinions.

Here, for your future information, are my view in a nutshell:
Gender equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. However, we must bear in mind the fact that men and women are
different. It's wrong to pretend that they are the same. For instance
the absurd new rules on car insurance, which unfairly disadvantage young
women.
Racial equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to discuss.
Immigration: It should be stopped completely except for people this
country really needs (paying students, fully qualified professionals).
The population is going to increase unsustainably as it is, thanks to
all the S Asians breeding like flies.
Illegal immigrants: Straight into jail and then straight on the boat, no
arguing.
Multiculturalism: It doesn't work.
The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
Unmarried mothers: should be made to live either with their parents or
in an unpleasant hostel, not given a council flat.
The BNP: are racist idiots.
Wind turbines etc. CO2 emissions world-wide are increasing 3% a year.
The UK accounts for 2% of the total. If we cut our emissions by half it
would slow down world emissions by 4 months. The Industrial Revolution
showed that cheap energy is the key to economic growth. Why are we
taxing energy when the US and China aren't? Are we determined to become
a poor nation?
Childcare costs for married women who want to work: should be paid by
the state.
People who have a lifetime on the dole: should be dealt with most severely.
Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a choice: ten
years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one. The tough ones to
have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no telly. Otherwise just the
same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to give two months remission.
Every 'A' level passed to give four months remission. Every decent
degree to give a year's remission. (No soft subjects obviously). No-one
to leave prison until they are literate. Until you can read you stop inside.
Capital punishment: Never. Far too risky.
Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists and armed robbers.
Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone found in an occupied
house without good reason to be invited to leave. The form of words to
be prescribed and to be in plain English. No translations will be
available. If they don't immediately leave they are to have no rights
whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or boiled alive in virgin olive
oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bill

BBC let something slip through today
 

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:48:48 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

bugbear wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

That Golden Years one is very good. The only thing that spoilt the
last episode was that when a character made a deeply sexist remark
(intended as a joke because the thing is based in the middle class
1930s and the central joke of the programme is the values of that
era) a section of the audience booed.

Nice to hear you acknowledge that such remarks belong in the past.

Clearly you aren't aware that I am strongly in favour of gender
equality. I think you might be falling into the trap of assuming that
because a person is against uncontrolled immigration and
multiculturalism he must subscribe to all the other views that the
left/liberal sheep hate so much. You need to learn that some of us
think about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot
be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our
opinions.

Here, for your future information, are my view in a nutshell:
Gender equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. However, we must bear in mind the fact that men and women
are different. It's wrong to pretend that they are the same. For
instance the absurd new rules on car insurance, which unfairly
disadvantage young women.
Racial equality: It's so obvious this is right there's nothing to
discuss. Immigration: It should be stopped completely except for
people this country really needs (paying students, fully qualified
professionals). The population is going to increase unsustainably as
it is, thanks to all the S Asians breeding like flies.
Illegal immigrants: Straight into jail and then straight on the boat,
no arguing.
Multiculturalism: It doesn't work.
The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
Unmarried mothers: should be made to live either with their parents
or in an unpleasant hostel, not given a council flat.
The BNP: are racist idiots.
Wind turbines etc. CO2 emissions world-wide are increasing 3% a year.
The UK accounts for 2% of the total. If we cut our emissions by half
it would slow down world emissions by 4 months. The Industrial
Revolution showed that cheap energy is the key to economic growth.
Why are we taxing energy when the US and China aren't? Are we
determined to become a poor nation?
Childcare costs for married women who want to work: should be paid by
the state.
People who have a lifetime on the dole: should be dealt with most
severely. Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a
choice: ten years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one.
The tough ones to have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no
telly. Otherwise just the same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to
give two months remission. Every 'A' level passed to give four months
remission. Every decent degree to give a year's remission. (No soft
subjects obviously). No-one to leave prison until they are literate.
Until you can read you stop inside. Capital punishment: Never. Far
too risky. Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists
and armed robbers. Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone
found in an occupied house without good reason to be invited to
leave. The form of words to be prescribed and to be in plain English.
No translations will be available. If they don't immediately leave
they are to have no rights whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or
boiled alive in virgin olive oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bill




Oh come on, Bill. Why waste virgin olive oil, when used engine or
chippy oil will do just as well?
I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.
--
Davey.

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In article , Bill Wright wrote:
Prison overcrowding: On sentencing they should be given a choice: ten
years in a normal prison or five years in a tough one. The tough ones to
have the thermostat turned down to 19C and no telly. Otherwise just the
same. Every 'O' level passed in prison to give two months remission.
Every 'A' level passed to give four months remission. Every decent
degree to give a year's remission. (No soft subjects obviously). No-one
to leave prison until they are literate. Until you can read you stop inside.
Capital punishment: Never. Far too risky.
Corporal punishment: Bring it back for muggers, rapists and armed robbers.
Citizens' right to defend their property: Anyone found in an occupied
house without good reason to be invited to leave. The form of words to
be prescribed and to be in plain English. No translations will be
available. If they don't immediately leave they are to have no rights
whatsoever. They can be shot, stabbed, or boiled alive in virgin olive
oil by the occupier as he sees fit.

Bravo to that, particularly the bit about prisoners earning remission by
acquiring educational qualifications. Prison seems such an obscene waste of
money in terms of what it achieves, that at least it would be a step in the
right direction to ensure that the inmates didn't waste all of that expensive
time.

I would only add to the prison specifications that neither the tough nor the
soft options should include access to any computer games. From my own
admittedly limited observations, they all seem to be about killing people,
which given the circumstances would appear to be counterproductive.

Rod.
--

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Bill Wright wrote:
You need to learn that some of us think about each separate issue for ourselves, and unlike you cannot be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that describes all our opinions.

You object to me generalising about you, and promptly generalise about me.

Was that dumb retaliation, or simple hypocrisy?

BugBear

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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go out
in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly because
Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry
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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:28:14 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright wrote:
snip
I would only add to the prison specifications that neither the tough
nor the soft options should include access to any computer games.
From my own admittedly limited observations, they all seem to be
about killing people, which given the circumstances would appear to
be counterproductive.

Reduce the police force to Dutch levels and close half the prisons
like the Dutch are planning to do.

As half of our prisoners are there on drugs related charges if we
decriminalise drugs then you could close half our prisons, and free up
enormous amount of police time to do some proper policing

If we created a nationalised opiate manufacturing centre we could
buy up Afghan poppies putting money into their economy and
it would then cost a pittance to give drugs to registered users on the NHS

Steve Terry
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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories

It needs even more protection against Labour.

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TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:49:37 -0000
"Steve Terry" wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go
out in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly
because Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry

And I'm now reading that, due to a differential in subsidies, some
high-output turbines are being de-rated to get below the threshold
which then pays more.
--
Davey.

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Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:31:53 +0000, bugbear
wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:
You need to learn that some of us think about each separate issue for ourselves,

and unlike you cannot be neatly fitted into a rigid compartment that
describes all our opinions.
You object to me generalising about you, and promptly generalise about me.

Was that dumb retaliation, or simple hypocrisy?

Note that all feminists are raving lefties

I'm a feminist. I believe in full gender equality. What more do you want?

and that he doesn't propose
castration for men whose actions result in young single mothers.
Nor do I propose sterilisation for the females, which is the equivalent.
Come on, you know as well as I do that these girls get pregnant in order
to get a flat. The result is another child (or several) with no stable
family life and no father figure. The children become a burden on the
state, and so it goes on.

Bill

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In message , Steve Terry
writes
Martin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:13:39 +0000, Davey
wrote:

I would also remove, by whatever means is easiest, any
wind turbine to which anybody has any objection, for any reason.

The first large ship that breaks down in a storm near an off shore
wind farm will remove several wind turbines. If one hits a Siemens
transformer/junction box in the German Bight, the lights could go out
in North Germany. ATM the risk to the latter is slight mainly because
Siemens have technical problems with their implementation.

Crazy thing is wind turbines actually use power when the wind isn't
blowing, and cost more to build and maintain than they produce.

We used to be world leaders in nuclear power, now whilst pretending
we don't want it Southern England has become dependent on
French nuclear stations.

Steve Terry

After Scottish independence, SE can draw power from the former Faslane
nuclear submarine base located on the Thames. :¬)
--
Ian