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Another retune?
SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been
seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? -- Davey. |
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On 17/09/2012 23:36, Davey wrote:
SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. -- mb |
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:49:54 +0100
Mike Brown wrote: On 17/09/2012 23:36, Davey wrote: SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. Groan! Thanks. Will it ever end? -- Davey. |
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In message , Mike Brown
writes On 17/09/2012 23:36, Davey wrote: SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. Riveting stuff. Dave and Yesterday swap over to 12 and 19 Really and Gold (subscription) swap over to be 17 and 20 The Food Network moves to 48 (from 49) The Jewellery channel moves to 49 (from 60) Local TV services are reserved 8 (England and Northern Ireland) and 45 (Wales and Scotland) RTE1, RTE2 and TG4 are reserved 51, 52 and 53 - these start on a special www.ukfree.tv link icon "mini multiplex" for Northern Ireland on Wednesday 24th October 2012. Argos TV starts on 55 Text services move to 200-224: 200 BBC Red Button; 201 Teletext Holidays; 202 Rabbit; 203 Gay Rabbit; 204 1-2-1 Dating; 205 Mail Travel; 206 Sky Text. MHEG services move to 225-299: 225 VISION; 226 CCTV; 227 Sports Tonight; 228 Connect 1; 229 Connect 2; 230 Connect 3; 231 Racing TV; 232 The Space. -- Ian |
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This one is designed to confuse the elderly. having got them all used to the
channel numbers, they will now all be changed around on Wednesday. What it does not say is what happens if you don't do it? also, surely in this day and age we ought to be able to allocate whatever number we like to whichever channel we like? The Smart talk seems not to have any way of doing this so all of us who have got the hang of dialling in the numbers will now find that what was on 20 is now on 17 etc, all for the hopes of someone who has a tidy mind and wants to put like channels together. This will of course all fall apart the next time a channel is dead and a new one is inserted which is different to the old one. brain -- From the Bed of Brian Gaff. The email is valid as Blind user. "Davey" wrote in message ... SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? -- Davey. |
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"Mike Brown" wrote in message
... On 17/09/2012 23:36, Davey wrote: SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. As a matter of interest, how do punters find out about these things? When a transmitter such as Bilsdale has its DSO, there is loads of publicity: adverts on hoardings in the street, leaflets to all affected houses etc. But national retunes for changes in EPG number seem not to be publicised at all, and you need to keep checking industry forums to find out that they are imminent. Shame they couldn't have combined the EPG renumbering with the first (or second) DSO for Bilsdale :-( Why are they changing the EPG numbers? I wonder if HDD recorders, Windows Media Centre, etc, will have the intelligence to preserve existing recordings that have already been set: will an instruction to record on Yesterday on 12 be modified to one to record at the same date/time but now on 19? |
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In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
This one is designed to confuse the elderly. having got them all used to the channel numbers, they will now all be changed around on Wednesday. What it does not say is what happens if you don't do it? also, surely in this day and age we ought to be able to allocate whatever number we like to whichever channel we like? I suspect I'll find that the Panasonic PVR will have forgotten its entire list of programmes to be recorded, leaving a list with only the dates and times, no programme titles and blank spaces for the channels, so I'll have to do a bit of detective work, retune and enter the whole lot again. Rod. -- |
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OT.
Just returned from my trip to North Norfolk and for first time now it digital only got that counties regional tv. Never in past able to get Anglia always only reception was Lincolnshire/Yorkshire on analogue. So at least will better for locals as well as caravanners. Regards David "Davey" wrote in message ... SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? -- Davey. |
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"Mike Brown" wrote in message ... On 17/09/2012 23:36, Davey wrote: SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. Will numbers then make sense with other forms of TV transmissions EG. Freesat? Lounge TV is Freesat other rooms Freeview yes is very confusing for my wife. Regards David |
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"Davey" wrote in message
... SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? There's another one on 17th Oct (possibly) as the supposed regulatory body has ****ed up: http://www.a516digital.com/2012/09/f...shuffle-q.html This will run and run with trivial commercial whinges allowed to prevail. -- Max Demian |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
... "Davey" wrote in message ... SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? There's another one on 17th Oct (possibly) as the supposed regulatory body has ****ed up: http://www.a516digital.com/2012/09/f...shuffle-q.html This will run and run with trivial commercial whinges allowed to prevail. What a mess. Why couldn't DMOL and their predecessors who allocated LCNs do the job once and do it right, instead of doing it piecemeal over the years? Does anyone go through the channels sequentially until they find the one they want, instead of keying the digits for the desired channel? In other words, does Shopping Channel's argument for wanting a low LCN actually hold water? |
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"Mortimer" wrote in message o.uk... Does anyone go through the channels sequentially until they find the one they want, instead of keying the digits for the desired channel? Yes my wife does. Regards David |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:52 +0100, "Mortimer" wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message ... "Davey" wrote in message ... SWMBO, who watches a lot more TV than I do, reports that she has been seeing warnings recently about another re-tune being needed this week. We receive from Tacolneston. Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? There's another one on 17th Oct (possibly) as the supposed regulatory body has ****ed up: http://www.a516digital.com/2012/09/f...shuffle-q.html This will run and run with trivial commercial whinges allowed to prevail. What a mess. Why couldn't DMOL and their predecessors who allocated LCNs do the job once and do it right, instead of doing it piecemeal over the years? There are channels coming and going and channels being renamed all the time. Does anyone go through the channels sequentially until they find the one they want, instead of keying the digits for the desired channel? In other words, does Shopping Channel's argument for wanting a low LCN actually hold water? If I can't remember the number of a channel I press the button that displays the channel list. I can scroll through that until I see the one I want. It's not necessary to go through the channels sequentially in the sense of "tuning" to each one to see what it is. My Samsung TVs display the channel list as a series of tables with 24 channels in each. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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Davey wrote:
Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. Groan! Thanks. Will it ever end? Yes, as myself and others firmly believe, DTT (in its present DVB-T* form) will be dead sometime in the next decade. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... Davey wrote: Yes, national retune, Wednesday am, EPG reshuffle. Groan! Thanks. Will it ever end? Yes, as myself and others firmly believe, DTT (in its present DVB-T* form) will be dead sometime in the next decade. So do you believe the only option will be for every house then to get a satellite dish with as many LNBs as they want devices connected to it - or else to get cable or internet feed (and pay for the vast amount of data that TV-over-internet will generate)? Terrestrial TV has the advantage that it is reasonably unobtrusive: an aerial on the roof is less noticeable on the wall of the house (why are dishes rarely mounted on a chimney, clear of house walls etc?). It is also fairly tolerant of alignment errors so it can be used while mobile (eg in a caravan) without spending a long time aligning it at the satellite. |
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Mortimer wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message Yes, as myself and others firmly believe, DTT (in its present DVB-T* form) will be dead sometime in the next decade. So do you believe the only option will be for every house then to get a satellite dish with as many LNBs as they want devices connected to it - or else to get cable or internet feed (and pay for the vast amount of data that TV-over-internet will generate)? Terrestrial TV has the advantage that it is reasonably unobtrusive: an aerial on the roof is less noticeable on the wall of the house (why are dishes rarely mounted on a chimney, clear of house walls etc?). It is also fairly tolerant of alignment errors so it can be used while mobile (eg in a caravan) without spending a long time aligning it at the satellite. I broadly agree. However I didn't say it was necessarily a good idea to ditch DTT in its present form, I'm just predicting what will happen to the UHF broadcast bands, they will be sold to the 'Telcos'. Ofcom and their cohorts can only think in terms of 'bits per hertz'. Comparing DVB-T* with 4G LTE etc, it's no contest. However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it, I'd have called you mad. Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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En el artículo , Davey
escribió: Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/ -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: En el artículo , Davey escribió: Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/ My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100
Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Davey escribió: Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/ My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance? -- Davey. |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey
wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100 Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Davey escribió: Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/ My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance? Well it managed to for DSO. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:41 +0100
Mark wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100 Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Davey escribió: Is she right, and if so, what's this one for? http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/ My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance? Well it managed to for DSO. How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. -- Davey. |
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On 19/09/2012 13:55, Davey wrote:
Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance? Well it managed to for DSO. How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. Because AIUI the broadcasters enter the post DSO PIDs etc into the mux info tables about 24 to 36 hours *before* DSO occurs, so more advanced receivers are not totally surprised when everything changes. I assume the Humax flags this in the form of its own internally generated caption. That's different to the MHEG pop up captions, that are transmitted by the broadcasters. I've not seen any of those so far (on my receivers that accept MHEG gunk) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:04:57 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote: On 19/09/2012 13:55, Davey wrote: Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance? Well it managed to for DSO. How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. Because AIUI the broadcasters enter the post DSO PIDs etc into the mux info tables about 24 to 36 hours *before* DSO occurs, so more advanced receivers are not totally surprised when everything changes. I assume the Humax flags this in the form of its own internally generated caption. That's different to the MHEG pop up captions, that are transmitted by the broadcasters. I've not seen any of those so far (on my receivers that accept MHEG gunk) The only MHEG pop up caption I've seen recently was a DSO warning (Northern Ireland, 10 and 24 October). -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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In article , Mark Carver
wrote: However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it, I'd have called you mad. Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so. No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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In article , Mortimer wrote:
Yes, as myself and others firmly believe, DTT (in its present DVB-T* form) will be dead sometime in the next decade. So do you believe the only option will be for every house then to get a satellite dish with as many LNBs as they want devices connected to it - or else to get cable or internet feed (and pay for the vast amount of data that TV-over-internet will generate)? Terrestrial TV has the advantage that it is reasonably unobtrusive: an aerial on the roof is less noticeable on the wall of the house (why are dishes rarely mounted on a chimney, clear of house walls etc?). It is also fairly tolerant of alignment errors so it can be used while mobile (eg in a caravan) without spending a long time aligning it at the satellite. And nobody can tell what you're watching. Rod. -- |
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
... In article , Mark Carver wrote: However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it, I'd have called you mad. Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so. No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... My old house was about 200 yards from the local exchange and I'm sure the cables took a fairly direct route. I could get 8 Mbps without any problem. At my new house I can get about 4-6 Mbps. My parents' holiday cottage, out in the middle of nowhere used to get a fairly respectable 3-4 Mbps despite being several miles from the exchange, though I noticed when we were there the other week that the speed had dropped to 0.5-1 Mbps :-( Mind you, this is streets ahead of dial-up which was the only option until a few years ago when BT installed new lines to the village. All these are the sync speed reported by the router; the typical throughput as reported by speedtest.net is a bit lower (eg around 7 Mbps on my line with 8 Mbps sync). All these lines are with PlusNet for internet, though with BT or TalkTalk for phone rather than using a dedicated PlusNet phone line. |
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Mark Carver wrote: However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it, I'd have called you mad. Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so. No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... Well, to be fair, we were one of the first towns in the UK to have VDSL/FTTC, (not least because all the posh homes are five miles from the exchange). Check your exchange's status on this site:- https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/bt/fttc -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... Slainte, Jim 1.4 here. I wish Ionica had worked. Bill |
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On 19/09/2012 09:59, Mark wrote:
My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Mine didn't until this evening (Hannington) Andy |
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In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus Jim Lesurf wrote: No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... Slainte, Jim 1.4 here. I wish Ionica had worked. Bill We're supposed to be up to 30 next week or something like that;!... -- Tony Sayer |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:50:49 +0100
Mark Carver wrote: Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , Mark Carver wrote: However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it, I'd have called you mad. Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so. No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV... Well, to be fair, we were one of the first towns in the UK to have VDSL/FTTC, (not least because all the posh homes are five miles from the exchange). Check your exchange's status on this site:- https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/bt/fttc No point, there are no plans. At all. Ever, probably. -- Davey. |
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Davey wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:41 +0100 Mark wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100 Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Davey escribió: snip How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. Doesn't have a PVR!? Burn the witch, burn them now! Steve Terry -- Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and £5 bonus after activation at: http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:09:21 +0100
"Steve Terry" wrote: Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:41 +0100 Mark wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100 Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artÃ*culo , Davey escribió: snip How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. Doesn't have a PVR!? Burn the witch, burn them now! Steve Terry I'm a Luddite. I have a Sony Walkman, but no iPod/Pad. I don't need them. The last I heard, my brother still didn't have a TV set. And he is old enough to have retired. I'm not, but I have done so anyway. -- Davey. |
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Davey wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:09:21 +0100 "Steve Terry" wrote: Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:41 +0100 Mark wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100 Mark wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Davey escribió: snip How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience of their ESP abilities. Doesn't have a PVR!? Burn the witch, burn them now! Steve Terry I'm a Luddite. I have a Sony Walkman, but no iPod/Pad. I don't need them. The last I heard, my brother still didn't have a TV set. And he is old enough to have retired. I'm not, but I have done so anyway. Luddites are fine, it's Luddites without PVRs that have to be burnt. Steve Terry -- Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and £5 bonus after activation at: http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:44:08 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote: On 19/09/2012 09:59, Mark wrote: My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Mine didn't until this evening (Hannington) Mine still hasn't nagged. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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In article ,
Mortimer wrote: "Jim Lesurf" wrote in message All these are the sync speed reported by the router; the typical throughput as reported by speedtest.net is a bit lower (eg around 7 Mbps on my line with 8 Mbps sync). I check every now and then using the iplayer 'diagnostics' page as that is the route and server that are most relevant from my POV. I usually get a tad over 2 megs. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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In article , Mark Carver
wrote: Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , Mark Carver wrote: Check your exchange's status on this site:- https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/bt/fttc Just did that, but don't understand the jargon of what it showed - apart from noting that FTTC is a cross, not a tick. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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On 20/09/2012 09:38, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In , Mark Carver wrote: Jim Lesurf wrote: In , Mark Carver wrote: Check your exchange's status on this site:- https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/bt/fttc Just did that, but don't understand the jargon of what it showed - apart from noting that FTTC is a cross, not a tick. You need to move to a 'not as nice as you're in now' area I suspect :-( -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:09:54 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:00:14 +0100, Mark wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:44:08 +0100, Andy Champ wrote: On 19/09/2012 09:59, Mark wrote: My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this. Mine didn't until this evening (Hannington) Mine still hasn't nagged. Does it whine? Only when recording "Top Gear". -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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