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Bill Wright[_2_] September 22nd 12 04:57 PM

Another retune?
 
Davey wrote:

Maybe, but this particular recent case was specifically incomers, and
the bells concerned were the clock chimes. Nobody else had any problem
with them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-newcomer.html


That's a bad mistake they're made. They'll be ostracised, and worse.
Rural villages are very good at giving people the cold shoulder. They'll
effectively live alone. Local tradesmen and shops will be cool and
offhand. Kids will pull faces at them in the street. The guy will have
empty pews on each side of him on Sundays.

Eventually they'll move out.

What a classic example of ****ting in your own nest.

Bill

tim..... September 22nd 12 05:38 PM

Another retune?
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Davey wrote:

Maybe, but this particular recent case was specifically incomers, and
the bells concerned were the clock chimes. Nobody else had any problem
with them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-newcomer.html


That's a bad mistake they're made. They'll be ostracised, and worse. Rural
villages are very good at giving people the cold shoulder. They'll
effectively live alone. Local tradesmen and shops will be cool and
offhand. Kids will pull faces at them in the street. The guy will have
empty pews on each side of him on Sundays.


ISTM that the church authorities have behaved unreasonably: "But because it
cannot be turned off at night church leaders have been forced to silence the
bell completely"

WTF century are they living in?

tim



Steve Thackery[_2_] September 22nd 12 05:46 PM

Another retune?
 
tim..... wrote:

ISTM that the church authorities have behaved unreasonably: "But because
it cannot be turned off at night church leaders have been forced to
silence the bell completely"

WTF century are they living in?


Indeed. And what rubbish that it can't be turned off at night. There
are countless ways of achieving that end - turret clock specialists
throughout the land are always being asked to do this very thing.

--
SteveT



charles September 22nd 12 05:50 PM

Another retune?
 
In article , tim.....
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Davey wrote:

Maybe, but this particular recent case was specifically incomers, and
the bells concerned were the clock chimes. Nobody else had any problem
with them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-newcomer.html


That's a bad mistake they're made. They'll be ostracised, and worse.
Rural villages are very good at giving people the cold shoulder.
They'll effectively live alone. Local tradesmen and shops will be cool
and offhand. Kids will pull faces at them in the street. The guy will
have empty pews on each side of him on Sundays.


ISTM that the church authorities have behaved unreasonably: "But because
it cannot be turned off at night church leaders have been forced to
silence the bell completely"


WTF century are they living in?



It's more "in which century was the clock built?" to retro-fit a mechanism
that silence the bell at night would cost a small fortune.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18


Steve Thackery[_2_] September 22nd 12 07:33 PM

Another retune?
 
charles wrote:

It's more "in which century was the clock built?" to retro-fit a
mechanism that silence the bell at night would cost a small fortune.


It depends on what you mean by "a small fortune". It's a common
request and the techniques are well established.

As a clockmaker (but not a turret clock specialist) I think I could
sort something out for a few hundred quid. There are many ways to do
it.

--
SteveT



Davey September 22nd 12 08:03 PM

Another retune?
 
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:43:45 +0100
"Norman Wells" wrote:

Davey wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:36:02 +0100
Martin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:54:57 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:41:43 +0100
lid wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:00:41 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

lid wrote:

Their simple alternative is to move to a surburban area and
complain about pollution /crime /lack of parking.
and traffic jams, and schools full of kids who don't speak
English so your kids get a poor deal, and crowded pavements, and
nightmarish pushing and shoving on public transport, and
graffiti, and people not speaking to their neighbours.

Very true.
Also many who move to the country start moaning about farmyard
smells, cocks crowing, church bells,

That was my favourite one. I think the council should have told
him where to go, instead of telling the church to mute its bells.

There are local residents who don't like their sleep being
disturbed by church bells too. It's not just newcomers.


Maybe, but this particular recent case was specifically incomers,
and the bells concerned were the clock chimes. Nobody else had any
problem with them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-newcomer.html
And anyway, I consider that the sound of church bells is part of
being in the country, so should be tolerated. Even if done as
Church Bell Ringing, it only happens on specific days at specific
times. If you don't want to hear them, go to the pub.


What, every quarter of an hour?


No, to not hear the ringing of church bells, not clock chimes.
Church bells are normally rung on Saturdays for weddings, on Sundays,
and one weekday evening for practice. But you may have good idea......
--
Davey.

Bill Wright[_2_] September 23rd 12 02:02 AM

Another retune?
 
tim..... wrote:

ISTM that the church authorities have behaved unreasonably: "But because
it cannot be turned off at night church leaders have been forced to
silence the bell completely"

WTF century are they living in?


This one. For a start they think that they shouldn't use their money to
buy some custom made gadget that will prevent a mechanical clock
striking between certain hours.
Secondly they are not stupid. By turning the bells off completely the
blame for 'no bells at all' goes firmly to the people who complained.
Had they rigged up something to just turn them off at night no-one would
have noticed the lack of bells and they would have had no support. As it
is the complainers are besmirched. Good move. I should think the youths
of the village are even now rigging up a giant catapult to hurl bovine
excrement through the complainers' upstairs windows.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] September 23rd 12 02:03 AM

Another retune?
 
Steve Thackery wrote:
tim..... wrote:

ISTM that the church authorities have behaved unreasonably: "But
because it cannot be turned off at night church leaders have been
forced to silence the bell completely"

WTF century are they living in?


Indeed. And what rubbish that it can't be turned off at night. There
are countless ways of achieving that end - turret clock specialists
throughout the land are always being asked to do this very thing.

They are playing a cunning game.

Bill

Steve Thackery[_2_] September 23rd 12 02:55 AM

Another retune?
 
Bill Wright wrote:

Secondly they are not stupid. By turning the bells off completely the
blame for 'no bells at all' goes firmly to the people who complained. Had
they rigged up something to just turn them off at night no-one would have
noticed the lack of bells and they would have had no support. As it is
the complainers are besmirched. Good move.


It's true they are not stupid - they've cleverly achieved just what
they wanted.

But I honestly think they are being unreasonable. This has nothing to
do with newcomers to a village - striking turret clocks are to be found
all over the place, in cities, towns and villages. Some people will
adapt to the noise, others won't no matter how many years they live
there.

A public clock striking throughout the night is noise pollution, plain
and simple. There's no good reason to make a special case of a clock
just because it's been there for decades, or even centuries.

Night-time silencing can be achieved without irreversible changes to
the clock (thus without raising any conservation issues). Indeed, it
can be done without modifying the clock at all (by lifting the hammer
clear of the bell).

--
SteveT



Roderick Stewart[_2_] September 23rd 12 12:41 PM

Another retune?
 
In article , Steve Thackery
wrote:
A public clock striking throughout the night is noise pollution, plain
and simple.


It's not plain and simple. Public clocks were set up as a public service.
Some people still like them.

Rod.
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