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Mark[_13_] September 19th 12 02:09 PM

Another retune?
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100
Mark wrote:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

En el artículo , Davey
escribió:

Is she right, and if so, what's this one for?

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/


My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this.


Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance?


Well it managed to for DSO.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?


Davey September 19th 12 02:55 PM

Another retune?
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:41 +0100
Mark wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:55 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:59:20 +0100
Mark wrote:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:22 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , Davey
escribió:

Is she right, and if so, what's this one for?

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/1...tune_tomorrow/

My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this.


Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance?


Well it managed to for DSO.


How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience
of their ESP abilities.
--
Davey.


Mark Carver September 19th 12 03:04 PM

Another retune?
 
On 19/09/2012 13:55, Davey wrote:

Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance?


Well it managed to for DSO.


How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience
of their ESP abilities.


Because AIUI the broadcasters enter the post DSO PIDs etc into the mux
info tables about 24 to 36 hours *before* DSO occurs, so more advanced
receivers are not totally surprised when everything changes. I assume
the Humax flags this in the form of its own internally generated caption.

That's different to the MHEG pop up captions, that are transmitted by
the broadcasters. I've not seen any of those so far (on my receivers
that accept MHEG gunk)


--
Mark
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Peter Duncanson September 19th 12 04:33 PM

Another retune?
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:04:57 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 19/09/2012 13:55, Davey wrote:

Why would it, it's not due until lunchtime, would it know in advance?

Well it managed to for DSO.


How did it know for that? I don't have a PVR, so I have no experience
of their ESP abilities.


Because AIUI the broadcasters enter the post DSO PIDs etc into the mux
info tables about 24 to 36 hours *before* DSO occurs, so more advanced
receivers are not totally surprised when everything changes. I assume
the Humax flags this in the form of its own internally generated caption.

That's different to the MHEG pop up captions, that are transmitted by
the broadcasters. I've not seen any of those so far (on my receivers
that accept MHEG gunk)


The only MHEG pop up caption I've seen recently was a DSO warning
(Northern Ireland, 10 and 24 October).

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Jim Lesurf[_2_] September 19th 12 05:31 PM

Another retune?
 
In article , Mark Carver
wrote:


However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s
internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even
support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it,
I'd have called you mad.


Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so.


No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for
some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV...

Slainte,

Jim

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Roderick Stewart[_2_] September 19th 12 06:22 PM

Another retune?
 
In article , Mortimer wrote:

Yes, as myself and others firmly believe, DTT (in its present DVB-T* form)
will be dead sometime in the next decade.


So do you believe the only option will be for every house then to get a
satellite dish with as many LNBs as they want devices connected to it - or
else to get cable or internet feed (and pay for the vast amount of data that
TV-over-internet will generate)?

Terrestrial TV has the advantage that it is reasonably unobtrusive: an
aerial on the roof is less noticeable on the wall of the house (why are
dishes rarely mounted on a chimney, clear of house walls etc?). It is also
fairly tolerant of alignment errors so it can be used while mobile (eg in a
caravan) without spending a long time aligning it at the satellite.


And nobody can tell what you're watching.

Rod.
--


Mortimer September 19th 12 07:21 PM

Another retune?
 
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark Carver
wrote:


However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s
internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even
support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it,
I'd have called you mad.


Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so.


No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for
some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV...


My old house was about 200 yards from the local exchange and I'm sure the
cables took a fairly direct route. I could get 8 Mbps without any problem.
At my new house I can get about 4-6 Mbps. My parents' holiday cottage, out
in the middle of nowhere used to get a fairly respectable 3-4 Mbps despite
being several miles from the exchange, though I noticed when we were there
the other week that the speed had dropped to 0.5-1 Mbps :-( Mind you, this
is streets ahead of dial-up which was the only option until a few years ago
when BT installed new lines to the village.

All these are the sync speed reported by the router; the typical throughput
as reported by speedtest.net is a bit lower (eg around 7 Mbps on my line
with 8 Mbps sync).

All these lines are with PlusNet for internet, though with BT or TalkTalk
for phone rather than using a dedicated PlusNet phone line.


Mark Carver September 19th 12 07:50 PM

Another retune?
 
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Mark Carver
wrote:


However, if you'd said to me 10 years ago that I'd have a 29 Mb/s
internet feed by 2010, when at the time BT said my line couldn't even
support 512k, and in 2011 I'd be watching 720p HD TV programmes on it,
I'd have called you mad.


Things have changed, and improved, and will continue to do so.


No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for
some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV...


Well, to be fair, we were one of the first towns in the UK to have VDSL/FTTC,
(not least because all the posh homes are five miles from the exchange).

Check your exchange's status on this site:-

https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchanges/bt/fttc

--
Mark
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www.paras.org.uk

Bill Wright[_2_] September 19th 12 08:43 PM

Another retune?
 
Jim Lesurf wrote:

No sign of any such 'change' here. It has been stuck at circa 2 mbps for
some years. OK for net radio if reliable. Not much use for HDTV...

Slainte,

Jim

1.4 here. I wish Ionica had worked.

Bill

Andy Champ[_2_] September 19th 12 09:44 PM

Another retune?
 
On 19/09/2012 09:59, Mark wrote:
My Humax PVR hasn't nagged me about this.


Mine didn't until this evening (Hannington)

Andy


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