BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:37:06 +0100, lid
wrote:

If an independent Scotland puts in a heavy regulatory burden then
businesses will decide the game simply isn't worth the candle and will
withdraw from Scotland.

Excellent. Leaves more room in the market for pure Scottish
businesses to operate.

I would also expert an independent Scotland to have its own 'universal
delivery' postal service. The remote deliveries will cost it an arm
and a leg.

It'll save the English loads of dosh then. The more that's said
about this, the more I like it. Who needs a referendum, let's just go
for it now.

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On 26/08/2012 11:10, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:24:37 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Scott
wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence.

You can perhaps clarify if that simply means 'BBC Scotland' (the station)
or the entire BBC broadcast distribution in Scotland. Quite a large
distinction since in practice the TV 'station' is a part-time minor part of
all the BBC output delivered into Scotland.

I think Mr Salmond needs to clarify that.

Also of interest to know where this is reported. Your posting is
the only place I've noticed it. But I tend not to see TV news, etc,
over a weekend.

Google not working today?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-19374818
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...?newsfeed=true
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...eak-up-1278367
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/s...e?referrer=RSS

Can he help himself to the existing assets of the BBC?
Mal

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On 26/08/2012 13:22, Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC), Richard Tobin
wrote:

How is the BBC going to know which of my ISP's ip addresses are in
Scotland? Or are you assuming that there will no longer be
ISPs covering the whole of Britain?

I'm assuming Scotland will get a set of IP addresses that identify the
country as elsewhere.

Countries don't get a set of IP addresses. IP addresses are allocated
to ISPs. Would a currently UK-wide ISP have to start allocating
different addresses to users in Scotland?

You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.
You will have to have Scottish ISPs. Then they would get their own
address ranges and could be blacklisted like anyone else.

Actually, I'm quite looking forward to all those loonies up there
going off on their own. They would soon learn that the grass
ain't greener on the other side.

Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

Salmond will probably only want pure-bred Scottish people next.

This pure bred Scot don't live there no more and wont be going back.
I just wish that they had voted for independence years ago. How would
they have survived their banks going bust? Would pure bred Brown and
Darling have bailed them out?
Mal.

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On 26/08/2012 14:29, brightside S9 wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:45:14 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article ,
PeterC wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 21:22:17 +0100, Mal Travers wrote:

On 25/08/2012 16:34, Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)

Could someone please jam Salmond?
Mal

Wouldn't tar be better?

Oh, it was that sort of jam was it? I was assuming that he meant "under
the wheels of a 44-tonner".


Here's a little background info an Alex
See http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Salmond


I've always thought it strange that he married his now 75 year old wife
who was his boss in the Scottish Office when he was 27 and she was 44.
They were standing next to me one day at the races. He turned to her
saying, Stay there, I have something to do. He goes and speaks to some
people and then disappears with them into the hospitality room.
Mal

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:23:04 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:31:07 +0100, lid
wrote:

More practically, we could tell him to create his own currency (or
join the Euro). It will float free from the Pound. The Bank of England
will have no dealings with the Scottish government or currency.
Scottish citizens will need their own passports and their own
embassies around the world.

Independence should be all or nothing. No picking what to abandon or
keep.

Abso-bleedin-lutely.

And if an independent Scotland wants to remain (or more properly,
*join*) the EU, it will also *have* to adopt the Euro.

I very much doubt whether an independent Scotland would be able to join
the EU.

It was one of the fundamental priciples of the creation of the European
Communities that became the EU that existing borders would be left where
they were/are and harmonisation of laws and unification would reduce the
significance of the borders.

There are many borders between EU countries that are "disputed". If
Scotland were able to leave the UK, erect a new border and join the EU
it would open a can of words.



--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

In article , Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:
Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

If we were black, that would be racist.

Rod.
--

BBC in an independent Scotland - or why TV aerials in north Wales point to England
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Well I suppose if Scotland joined the space age and put up a satellite at
28E with higher output than the BBC on a tight beam and rely on FM
capture.

So the uplinks are FM? Really?

I meant the downlinks, but at 28E there have not been any FM ones for
several years.


Bill

PS Anyone want a Strong 1500MkII analog receiver?

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:08:05 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:46:16 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:23:04 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:31:07 +0100, lid
wrote:

More practically, we could tell him to create his own currency (or
join the Euro). It will float free from the Pound. The Bank of England
will have no dealings with the Scottish government or currency.
Scottish citizens will need their own passports and their own
embassies around the world.

Independence should be all or nothing. No picking what to abandon or
keep.

Abso-bleedin-lutely.

And if an independent Scotland wants to remain (or more properly,
*join*) the EU, it will also *have* to adopt the Euro.

I very much doubt whether an independent Scotland would be able to join
the EU.

but countries that were part of the former republic of Yugoslavia can
and eventually will.

Yugoslavia split when outside the EU.

Allowing the rearrangement of the EUs internal borders would be a
different matter.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:22:11 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC), Richard Tobin
wrote:

How is the BBC going to know which of my ISP's ip addresses are in
Scotland? Or are you assuming that there will no longer be
ISPs covering the whole of Britain?

I'm assuming Scotland will get a set of IP addresses that identify the
country as elsewhere.

Countries don't get a set of IP addresses. IP addresses are allocated
to ISPs. Would a currently UK-wide ISP have to start allocating
different addresses to users in Scotland?

You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.
You will have to have Scottish ISPs. Then they would get their own
address ranges and could be blacklisted like anyone else.

Actually, I'm quite looking forward to all those loonies up there
going off on their own. They would soon learn that the grass
ain't greener on the other side.

Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

Salmond will probably only want pure-bred Scottish people next.

Tiscali was issuing me with Swedish IP addresses at one point. Whois
confirmed this and if you put google.com into your browser it
redirected to google.se
The main problem was finding a smtp server that would accept outgoing
mail, I never did, and it was the only time, out of desperation, that
I used my own open relay.

The best their helpdesk could do was suggest that I must have chosen
Swedish instead of English as the language option when installing the
driver for the USB modem.

It lasted about a week, then one morning it had resumed issuing me
with UK addresses.



--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

In article , Martin wrote:
Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

If we were black, that would be racist.

He did say "without a legitimate reason". :-)

Considering the circumstances in which it would be "legitimate" to refer
to people in a particular category by a derogatory term and suggest
excluding them, it does seem to depend on what the category is. If the
category is "black" or "homosexual", or "disabled" or "female", to give
a few examples, there are laws that forbid it, but if you're Scottish it
seems to be perfectly OK.

Rod.
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