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Richard Tobin August 26th 12 01:34 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
In article ,
Martin wrote:

How is the BBC going to know which of my ISP's ip addresses are in
Scotland? Or are you assuming that there will no longer be
ISPs covering the whole of Britain?


I'm assuming Scotland will get a set of IP addresses that identify the
country as elsewhere.


Countries don't get a set of IP addresses. IP addresses are allocated
to ISPs. Would a currently UK-wide ISP have to start allocating
different addresses to users in Scotland?

-- Richard

JohnT[_7_] August 26th 12 01:42 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Scott
wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence.


You can perhaps clarify if that simply means 'BBC Scotland' (the station)
or the entire BBC broadcast distribution in Scotland. Quite a large
distinction since in practice the TV 'station' is a part-time minor part
of
all the BBC output delivered into Scotland.

Also of interest to know where this is reported. Your posting is
the only place I've noticed it. But I tend not to see TV news, etc,
over a weekend.



Google could have found this for you in about 0.001 milliseconds:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp... 45831251751A

--
JohnT


Paul Ratcliffe August 26th 12 02:22 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC), Richard Tobin
wrote:

How is the BBC going to know which of my ISP's ip addresses are in
Scotland? Or are you assuming that there will no longer be
ISPs covering the whole of Britain?


I'm assuming Scotland will get a set of IP addresses that identify the
country as elsewhere.


Countries don't get a set of IP addresses. IP addresses are allocated
to ISPs. Would a currently UK-wide ISP have to start allocating
different addresses to users in Scotland?


You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.
You will have to have Scottish ISPs. Then they would get their own
address ranges and could be blacklisted like anyone else.

Actually, I'm quite looking forward to all those loonies up there
going off on their own. They would soon learn that the grass
ain't greener on the other side.

Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

Salmond will probably only want pure-bred Scottish people next.

[email protected] August 26th 12 04:31 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:22:11 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe

Actually, I'm quite looking forward to all those loonies up there
going off on their own. They would soon learn that the grass
ain't greener on the other side.

Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

More practically, we could tell him to create his own currency (or
join the Euro). It will float free from the Pound. The Bank of England
will have no dealings with the Scottish government or currency.
Scottish citizens will need their own passports and their own
embassies around the world.

Independence should be all or nothing. No picking what to abandon or
keep.

Salmond will probably only want pure-bred Scottish people next.


are there any?

Ian Jackson[_2_] August 26th 12 04:53 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
In message , Paul Ratcliffe
writes



Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

Please be aware that all of Hadrian's Wall is well and truly in England
- at least 60 miles south at the furthest point.



--
Ian

Richard Tobin August 26th 12 04:56 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.


Really? How will that work? Does it apply only to ISPs, or businesses
in general?

-- Richard

[email protected] August 26th 12 09:37 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Owain
wrote:

On Aug 26, 3:56*pm, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.

Really? *How will that work? *Does it apply only to ISPs, or businesses
in general?


If an independent Scotland puts in a heavy regulatory burden then
businesses will decide the game simply isn't worth the candle and will
withdraw from Scotland.

A requirement for a universal pricing and service obligation model
regardless of whether the ISP is serving a customer in Drumgelloch or
Durness would put many ISPs off. Once the private sector has withdrawn
from the market there's no reason [1] why internet access shouldn't be
a nationalised or nationally franchised industry like the railways for
example.

Owain

[1] There are lots of reasons, actually, but unlikely to appeal to Mr
Salmond.


I would also expert an independent Scotland to have its own 'universal
delivery' postal service. The remote deliveries will cost it an arm
and a leg.

Paul Ratcliffe August 26th 12 11:28 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:53:35 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

Roll on putting the wall back up, and checkpoints on all the cross
border routes to keep the Jocks out of England without a legitimate
reason.

Please be aware that all of Hadrian's Wall is well and truly in England
- at least 60 miles south at the furthest point.


Yeah I know, but a new one could be built. The building industry
apparently needs a bit of stimulation. We could get the Jocks to
build it and pay them in cheap English booze. Have to make sure we
send them back over the wall though when they're sozzled, but that's
hardly going to be a challenge is it?

Paul Ratcliffe August 26th 12 11:29 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:31:07 +0100, lid
wrote:

More practically, we could tell him to create his own currency (or
join the Euro). It will float free from the Pound. The Bank of England
will have no dealings with the Scottish government or currency.
Scottish citizens will need their own passports and their own
embassies around the world.

Independence should be all or nothing. No picking what to abandon or
keep.


Abso-bleedin-lutely.

Salmond will probably only want pure-bred Scottish people next.


are there any?


I wouldn't know.

Paul Ratcliffe August 26th 12 11:32 PM

BBC in an independent Scotland
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:56:58 +0000 (UTC), Richard Tobin
wrote:

You're all missing the point...
There won't *BE* UK-wide ISPs if Bonkers-mad Salmond gets his way.


Really? How will that work? Does it apply only to ISPs, or businesses
in general?


Everything. Anything that is UK-wide now will have to have a Scottish
variant shaved off the side of it.
Otherwise the whole plan is a mess of inconsistency. Oh, err....


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