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Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll
get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? -- Allan Jones - N/B 'Keeping Up' www.keeping-up.co.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:14:06 +0100
"Allan" wrote: Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? Why not just get a Freeview STB, and not have to worry? You could even get an HD box. Then throw out anything to do with Murdoch! -- Davey. |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
Allan wrote:
Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? If you cancel your subscription, all the Free to Air, and Free to View channels will continue as normal, until that series of card expires, (probably in two to three years) Remove the card completely (and reboot it), and the box will still receive all Free to Air channels, however Ch 101, 102, and 103 will revert to BBC 1 London, BBC 2 England, and ITV Central W. (You will still find your correct regional versions of BBC 1 and 2 in the 9xx range, but not ITV) You won't get the handful of Free to View channels, Pull the card out, and see for yourself. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
On 25/08/2012 14:14, Allan wrote:
Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? take the card out - what you can now see is what you'll continue to get. pretty sure they dont scramble channel 5 anymore. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... On 25/08/2012 14:14, Allan wrote: Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? take the card out - what you can now see is what you'll continue to get. pretty sure they dont scramble channel 5 anymore. -- Gareth. If I take the card out, I don't get ITV any more. I can get 4 and 5 but channel 103 simply tells me to insert a card. That's what I need to get around. |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Allan wrote: Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? If you cancel your subscription, all the Free to Air, and Free to View channels will continue as normal, until that series of card expires, (probably in two to three years) Remove the card completely (and reboot it), and the box will still receive all Free to Air channels, however Ch 101, 102, and 103 will revert to BBC 1 London, BBC 2 England, and ITV Central W. (You will still find your correct regional versions of BBC 1 and 2 in the 9xx range, but not ITV) You won't get the handful of Free to View channels, Pull the card out, and see for yourself. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. Thanks for a helpful reply. However if I take the card out and reboot, I don't get ITV any more; channel 103 simply tells me to insert a card. Allan |
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Allan wrote:
Thanks for a helpful reply. However if I take the card out and reboot, I don't get ITV any more; channel 103 simply tells me to insert a card. Interesting ! What's you ITV region with the card inserted ? What do you get at Ch 973 ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
On Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:14:06 PM UTC+1, Allan wrote:
Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? -- Allan Jones - N/B 'Keeping Up' www.keeping-up.co.uk You only need a card to 'regionalise' the main channels. Your existing card will still work till the cards are changed by Sky. Your 103 disappearing isnt normal. Any box I install without a card gets all the free to view channels albeit with the box reverting to factory default ie BBC1/2 London & ITV Central and all other postcodes being in the 970s |
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Allan wrote:
If I take the card out, I don't get ITV any more. I can get 4 and 5 but channel 103 simply tells me to insert a card. That's what I need to get around. You have *rebooted* the box, i.e. removing the power plug for 10 seconds ? Switching on/off with remote or front panel will not reboot it. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Any box I install without a card gets all the free to view channels albeit with the box reverting to factory default ie BBC1/2 London & ITV Central and all other postcodes being in the 970s You mean Free to *Air*, Free to View channels are encrypted and still require a card -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk There are no 'free to view' channels left. Used to only be CH5/5*/5Live but they are all 'free to air' now |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
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There are no 'free to view' channels left. Used to only be CH5/5*/5Live but they are all 'free to air' now The 'Sony' branded channels are still FTV I think ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Sky -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
There are no 'free to view' channels left. Used to only be CH5/5*/5Live but they are all 'free to air' now The 'Sony' branded channels are still FTV I think ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Sky -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk Youre right..though I was thinking of popular channels! |
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On Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:51:13 PM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
There are no 'free to view' channels left. Used to only be CH5/5*/5Live but they are all 'free to air' now The 'Sony' branded channels are still FTV I think ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_Sky -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk Youre right..though I was thinking of popular channels! BTW do you know you can still use the 'yellow house' card to record with..as long as it was turned on to Sky+ in the 1st place. Woks only with 40GB boxes and some HD ones..think its the Samsung one |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Allan wrote: Thanks for a helpful reply. However if I take the card out and reboot, I don't get ITV any more; channel 103 simply tells me to insert a card. Interesting ! What's you ITV region with the card inserted ? What do you get at Ch 973 ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk OK I think I've cracked it. A reboot wasn't enough, I had to do a complete reload (reboot with "backup pressed" and now I have it defaulted to London BBC1 and Central ITV with no card inserted. Thanks Allan |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:18:39 +0100, Davey wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:14:06 +0100 "Allan" wrote: Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? Why not just get a Freeview STB, and not have to worry? You could even get an HD box. Then throw out anything to do with Murdoch! or a HD Freesat STB/PVR connected to your old Sky dish? -- Martin It gets complicated but here goes: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. On the boat we have exactly the same setup but without the VCR. The only time we use the Sky box is when we are travelling in an area where we can't get terrestrial TV from the boat (such as the southern end of the Staffs and Worcester Canal) and then we need to use the Sky box for even basic TV. That's when we particularly need to get all the basic channels on the satellite - otherwise my wife who is a fan of all the soaps would kill me (or worse still, refuse to act as crew at the locks). However power consumption is also an issue on the boat, so I have one of the old 12v Pace sets that consumes very little power. -- Allan Jones - N/B 'Keeping Up' www.keeping-up.co.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan"
wrote: "Martin" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:18:39 +0100, Davey wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:14:06 +0100 "Allan" wrote: Hi guys, sorry for a rather basic question here, but this way at least I'll get an informed answer instead of some sales-driven marketing flannel if I ask Sky. At the moment we have an old Sky box (not Sky+) and a Sky subscription which we are just about to cease because we don't watch anything on Sky any more. However we need to be able to continue watching the basic channels (BBCx, ITVx, Ch4 and Ch5) through the same old box. After we have cancelled presumably the Sky channels will be disabled for us, but what happens about ITV1? The box will not receive it without a card, but will it continue to do so with our old card? Or will I have to buy a new one-time-payment card (and are they still available from Sky?) like the one I bought many years ago but have since lost? Why not just get a Freeview STB, and not have to worry? You could even get an HD box. Then throw out anything to do with Murdoch! or a HD Freesat STB/PVR connected to your old Sky dish? -- Martin It gets complicated but here goes: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. On the boat we have exactly the same setup but without the VCR. The only time we use the Sky box is when we are travelling in an area where we can't get terrestrial TV from the boat (such as the southern end of the Staffs and Worcester Canal) and then we need to use the Sky box for even basic TV. That's when we particularly need to get all the basic channels on the satellite - otherwise my wife who is a fan of all the soaps would kill me (or worse still, refuse to act as crew at the locks). However power consumption is also an issue on the boat, so I have one of the old 12v Pace sets that consumes very little power. How can you use satellite on a boat? I thought the dish had to be aligned accurately with the satellite. Or is it gyroscopic? Or does the boat have to be stationary? |
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Scott wrote:
How can you use satellite on a boat? I thought the dish had to be aligned accurately with the satellite. Or is it gyroscopic? Or does the boat have to be stationary? Satellite reception on the move is possible, though pricey:- http://www.wmjmarine.com/marine-elec...e-sea-tel.html However, self adjusting systems for use on mobile homes etc, once stationary are much cheaper. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LUQSZK/ref=asc_df_B005LUQSZK9373621?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&t ag=hydra0b-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B005LU QSZK&hvpos=1o2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12225381062 128007092&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt= -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
"Scott" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan" wrote: It gets complicated but here goes: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. On the boat we have exactly the same setup but without the VCR. The only time we use the Sky box is when we are travelling in an area where we can't get terrestrial TV from the boat (such as the southern end of the Staffs and Worcester Canal) and then we need to use the Sky box for even basic TV. That's when we particularly need to get all the basic channels on the satellite - otherwise my wife who is a fan of all the soaps would kill me (or worse still, refuse to act as crew at the locks). However power consumption is also an issue on the boat, so I have one of the old 12v Pace sets that consumes very little power. How can you use satellite on a boat? I thought the dish had to be aligned accurately with the satellite. Or is it gyroscopic? Or does the boat have to be stationary? Sadly the boat usually has to be stationary - although I did once succeed in keeping a picture for more than quarter of an hour when travelling along the long straight river Witham from Boston towards Lincoln. Allan |
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan"
wrote: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 Steve -- Neural Network Software. http://www.npsl1.com EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com |
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Mark Carver wrote:
Scott wrote: How can you use satellite on a boat? I thought the dish had to be aligned accurately with the satellite. Or is it gyroscopic? Or does the boat have to be stationary? Satellite reception on the move is possible, though pricey:- http://www.wmjmarine.com/marine-elec...e-sea-tel.html However, self adjusting systems for use on mobile homes etc, once stationary are much cheaper. There's no problem using a minidish on a boat once it's tied up. Bill |
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Gotta love Amazons nice short links though eh?
Brian -- -- From the sofa of Brian Gaff - Blind user, so no pictures please! "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... Scott wrote: How can you use satellite on a boat? I thought the dish had to be aligned accurately with the satellite. Or is it gyroscopic? Or does the boat have to be stationary? Satellite reception on the move is possible, though pricey:- http://www.wmjmarine.com/marine-elec...e-sea-tel.html However, self adjusting systems for use on mobile homes etc, once stationary are much cheaper. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LUQSZK/ref=asc_df_B005LUQSZK9373621?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&t ag=hydra0b-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B005LU QSZK&hvpos=1o2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12225381062 128007092&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt= -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Gotta love Amazons nice short links though eh? Well, 35 characters would have sufficed, instead of 233. http://amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LUQSZK |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:20:02 +0200, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:49:11 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan" wrote: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! Steve -- Neural Network Software. http://www.npsl1.com EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:17:17 +0200
Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:15:11 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:20:02 +0200, Martin wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:49:11 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan" wrote: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? -- Davey. |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:37:09 +0100, Davey
wrote: Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? Martin's GMT+2 hours posting time suggests he is not in the UK Steve -- Neural Network Software. http://www.npsl1.com EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: Gotta love Amazons nice short links though eh? Well, 35 characters would have sufficed, instead of 233. http://amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LUQSZK Oh, bugger. It took me all afternoon to type out the original link. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200
Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:37:09 +0100, Davey wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:17:17 +0200 Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:15:11 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:20:02 +0200, Martin wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:49:11 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:28:51 +0100, "Allan" wrote: At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. -- Davey. |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:19:11 +0200
Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 10:29:15 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Gotta love Amazons nice short links though eh? Well, 35 characters would have sufficed, instead of 233. http://amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LUQSZK One happy and one very unhappy customer :) it looks like a George Foreman grill gone to Mars. -- Davey. |
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On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200 Martin wrote: Davey Martin wrote: wrote: Martin wrote: wrote At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. Martin doesn't live in the UK. |
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S Viemeister wrote:
Martin doesn't live in the UK. In which case he probably can't have a legal Sky subscription in the first place. Watching the overspill of UK domestic TV may be questionable as well. The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint that doesn't extend much beyond the UK, another means to try a prevent viewing outside the area for which broadcasting rights have been bought. I believe all Sky subscriptions require installation at a fixed, UK, address. |
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Martin wrote:
Only the householder who owns the TV needs a TV licence. It's not that. Who owns the TV(s) is not relevant. Any household with at least one TV requires a licence, it doesn't matter who buys that licence, as long as it's registered at the appropriate address. Is this thread drift towards TV licences a new variant of Godwin's Law by the way ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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David Woolley wrote:
S Viemeister wrote: Martin doesn't live in the UK. In which case he probably can't have a legal Sky subscription in the first place. Watching the overspill of UK domestic TV may be questionable as well. Yes, be careful about treading on the gaps in the pavement too. The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint that doesn't extend much beyond the UK, Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is. I believe all Sky subscriptions require installation at a fixed, UK, address. There's ways round that, Sky only pretend to care for the sake of their rights holders, it's all extra revenue. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200 Martin wrote: Davey Martin wrote: wrote: Martin wrote: wrote At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. Martin doesn't live in the UK. Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household? No, I have bought a TV license for the house that I live in, and it covers all sets and occupants in that house. If Martin watches TV in the UK, then the address that he is at must have a license. He could be at somebody else's licensed place, but he hasn't said that. -- Davey. |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200 Martin wrote: Davey Martin wrote: wrote: Martin wrote: wrote At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. Martin doesn't live in the UK. Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household? Let's try again, Martin. Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK? -- Davey. |
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"Davey" wrote in message ... On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200 Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200 Martin wrote: Davey Martin wrote: wrote: Martin wrote: wrote At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. Martin doesn't live in the UK. Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household? Let's try again, Martin. Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK? I think that he has already made it abundantly clear that, when watching TV in the UK, he does so in circumstances that don't necessitate him having a licence. For example, watching TV in the house of a friend or family member, or in a hotel. -- JohnT |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
Mark Carver wrote:
David Woolley wrote: The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint that doesn't extend much beyond the UK, Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is. Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D? http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:01:40 +0100
"JohnT" wrote: "Davey" wrote in message ... On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200 Martin wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200 Martin wrote: Davey Martin wrote: wrote: Martin wrote: wrote At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky box is when we want to record two things at once and then we use it to drive an ancient VCR. With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do one at only £120 With Freesat? The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview. http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel recorders but costs. I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the license! I neither need nor have a licence. Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK? I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday. I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore. Martin doesn't live in the UK. Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household? Let's try again, Martin. Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK? I think that he has already made it abundantly clear that, when watching TV in the UK, he does so in circumstances that don't necessitate him having a licence. For example, watching TV in the house of a friend or family member, or in a hotel. He says that he only watches TV in the UK when on holiday, but has not defined where on holiday he goes or stays. I thought he mentioned a boat, which would itself need a licence, unless it was already covered by a domestic or business license. If he only stays in hotels or places that are already licensed, then let him say so, to end the matter. As it is, it is not defined. -- Davey. |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
Dave Farrance wrote:
Mark Carver wrote: David Woolley wrote: The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint that doesn't extend much beyond the UK, Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is. Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D? http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php I'm talking about 2D. We were on holiday in Tenerife in 2006, and the apartments were fed by a 4 metre dish. Worked fine, BBC,ITV and C4. Except on a day with torrential rain, (which of course was the very day we could have done with it working !) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
Mark Carver wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote: Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D? http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php I'm talking about 2D. We were on holiday in Tenerife in 2006, and the apartments were fed by a 4 metre dish. Worked fine, BBC,ITV and C4. Except on a day with torrential rain, (which of course was the very day we could have done with it working !) Fair enough. I'd guess that the programme rights-holders would assume that the limited number of ex-pats and others that go to extremes to get UK TV have marginal effect on their licencing revenue calculations. |
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