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charles August 27th 12 11:08 PM

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In article ,
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:


But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


no, it's proper English useage. I have an O level in English Language.

-- Richard


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Mortimer August 27th 12 11:25 PM

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:


But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


no, it's proper English useage. I have an O level in English Language.


I've always spelled "usage" without an E in the middle, but it seems to be
one of those words which can be spelled either way.


Why is it correct to say "a hedge" or a "a hill" or "a hammock" but (to the
pretentious, at least) incorrect to say "a hotel"? And I've heard "an hotel"
(not "an 'otel") as a fairly common pronunciation especially by BBC
newsreaders, but I've put it down to bizarre BBC rules, like "half of one
percent" instead of "nought point five percent").

As far as I'm concerned, if the H is sounded (hotel, hedge, hammock), then
it's preceded by "a", as for any other consonant or consonant sound. If the
H is silent (honourable) then it's preceded by "an", as for any other vowel
or vowel sound.

As for "a(n) erb" - well, that seems to be much more common in the USA. It
took me ages when I watched "Pushing Daisies" to work out what Jim Dale, the
narrator, was talking about when he referred to erbs in the pies that the
piemaker made. It sounded odd to hear a British person made to use an
American pronunciation.


Mortimer August 27th 12 11:26 PM

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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Richard Tobin wrote:
But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


Anyone who thinks that's correct is an halfwit.


Is that "an halfwit" or "an 'alfwit"? :-)


Ian Jackson[_2_] August 27th 12 11:29 PM

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In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes
In article , Richard Tobin wrote:
But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


Anyone who thinks that's correct is an halfwit.

Pronounced, not doubt, " 'alfwit ".
--
Ian

Dave Farrance August 27th 12 11:47 PM

Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
 
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


That's the American pronunciation.

charles August 28th 12 12:07 AM

Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
 
In article , Mortimer
wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , Richard Tobin
wrote:
In article , Bill Wright
wrote:


But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


no, it's proper English useage. I have an O level in English Language.


I've always spelled "usage" without an E in the middle, but it seems to
be one of those words which can be spelled either way.



Why is it correct to say "a hedge" or a "a hill" or "a hammock" but (to
the pretentious, at least) incorrect to say "a hotel"?


Perhaps because the 'h' is followed by an 'o'.

[Snip]

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Bill Wright[_2_] August 28th 12 12:16 AM

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Ian Jackson wrote:

But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.

It's only a posh/Yorkshire thing. Most of us ordinary folk say "a hotel"
(with an aitch).


It's because your speech is influenced by watching Australian soap
operas. This is also the cause of the curious rising inflection.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] August 28th 12 12:20 AM

Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
 
charles wrote:
In article ,
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:


But the normal way is to say 'an hotel' and not pronounce the aitch.
That what everybody does.


Nowhere I've lived. It's just an affectation, like "erb".


no, it's proper English useage. I have an O level in English Language.


And that was from the days when an O Level was the equivalent of a
modern degree.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] August 28th 12 12:21 AM

Stopping Sky subscription but still using the box
 
Mortimer wrote:

Why is it correct to say "a hedge" or a "a hill" or "a hammock" but (to
the pretentious, at least) incorrect to say "a hotel"? And I've heard
"an hotel" (not "an 'otel") as a fairly common pronunciation especially
by BBC newsreaders, but I've put it down to bizarre BBC rules, like
"half of one percent" instead of "nought point five percent").

As far as I'm concerned,

What follows is rules that you've made up.

Bill

UnsteadyKen[_2_] August 28th 12 12:35 AM

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charles wrote...

Perhaps because the 'h' is followed by an 'o'.


An horse! an horse! my kingdom for an horse!

--
Ken O'Meara


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