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S Viemeister wrote:


Martin doesn't live in the UK.

In which case he probably can't have a legal Sky subscription in the
first place. Watching the overspill of UK domestic TV may be
questionable as well.

The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK
watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that
the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint
that doesn't extend much beyond the UK, another means to try a prevent
viewing outside the area for which broadcasting rights have been bought.

I believe all Sky subscriptions require installation at a fixed, UK,
address.

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Martin wrote:

Only the householder who owns the TV needs a TV licence.

It's not that. Who owns the TV(s) is not relevant.

Any household with at least one TV requires a licence, it doesn't matter who
buys that licence, as long as it's registered at the appropriate address.

Is this thread drift towards TV licences a new variant of Godwin's Law by the
way ?


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David Woolley wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:


Martin doesn't live in the UK.

In which case he probably can't have a legal Sky subscription in the
first place. Watching the overspill of UK domestic TV may be
questionable as well.

Yes, be careful about treading on the gaps in the pavement too.

The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK
watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that
the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint
that doesn't extend much beyond the UK,

Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a
large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is.

I believe all Sky subscriptions require installation at a fixed, UK,
address.

There's ways round that, Sky only pretend to care for the sake of their rights
holders, it's all extra revenue.


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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200
Martin wrote:
Davey
Martin wrote:
wrote:
Martin
wrote:
wrote
At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as
well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky
box is when we want to record two things at once and then
we use it to drive an ancient VCR.
With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi
channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do
one at only £120
With Freesat?
The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview.
http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel
recorders but costs.
I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the
license!
I neither need nor have a licence.
Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK?
I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday.

I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the
UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore.

Martin doesn't live in the UK.

Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household?

No, I have bought a TV license for the house that I live in, and it
covers all sets and occupants in that house. If Martin watches TV in
the UK, then the address that he is at must have a license. He could be
at somebody else's licensed place, but he hasn't said that.
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200
Martin wrote:
Davey
Martin wrote:
wrote:
Martin
wrote:
wrote
At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as
well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky
box is when we want to record two things at once and then
we use it to drive an ancient VCR.
With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi
channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do
one at only £120
With Freesat?
The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview.
http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel
recorders but costs.
I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the
license!
I neither need nor have a licence.
Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK?
I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday.

I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the
UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore.

Martin doesn't live in the UK.

Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household?

Let's try again, Martin.
Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK?
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"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200
Martin wrote:
Davey
Martin wrote:
wrote:
Martin
wrote:
wrote
At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as
well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky
box is when we want to record two things at once and then
we use it to drive an ancient VCR.
With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a multi
channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters. Panasonic do
one at only £120
With Freesat?
The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview.
http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel
recorders but costs.
I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the
license!
I neither need nor have a licence.
Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK?
I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday.

I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in the
UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore.

Martin doesn't live in the UK.

Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his household?

Let's try again, Martin.
Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK?

I think that he has already made it abundantly clear that, when watching TV
in the UK, he does so in circumstances that don't necessitate him having a
licence. For example, watching TV in the house of a friend or family member,
or in a hotel.
--
JohnT

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Mark Carver wrote:

David Woolley wrote:

The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK
watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that
the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint
that doesn't extend much beyond the UK,

Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a
large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is.

Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D?

http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:01:40 +0100
"JohnT" wrote:


"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:05:03 +0200
Martin wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:40:24 -0400, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 8/26/2012 6:41 PM, Davey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:50:33 +0200
Martin wrote:
Davey
Martin wrote:
wrote:
Martin
wrote:
wrote
At the house we have a Freeview TV and a Panasonic PVR as
well as the Sky box. So the only time we ever use the Sky
box is when we want to record two things at once and then
we use it to drive an ancient VCR.
With the money you save by stopping sky you could buy a
multi channel PVR. Well, two channel for starters.
Panasonic do one at only £120
With Freesat?
The two tuner Panasonic is Freeview.
http://www.promise.tv/ do a range of Freeview all channel
recorders but costs.
I don't watch enough TV to justify spending more than the
license!
I neither need nor have a licence.
Surely you need a license to legally watch TV in the UK?
I don't watch TV in UK except when I am holiday.

I don't see how that makes you exempt, though. You watch TV in
the UK, you need a license. Ask Charles Moore.

Martin doesn't live in the UK.

Has Davey bought a TV licence for each of the family in his
household?

Let's try again, Martin.
Why do you say that you do not need a license to watch TV in the UK?

I think that he has already made it abundantly clear that, when
watching TV in the UK, he does so in circumstances that don't
necessitate him having a licence. For example, watching TV in the
house of a friend or family member, or in a hotel.

He says that he only watches TV in the UK when on holiday, but has not
defined where on holiday he goes or stays. I thought he mentioned a
boat, which would itself need a licence, unless it was already covered
by a domestic or business license. If he only stays in hotels or places
that are already licensed, then let him say so, to end the matter. As
it is, it is not defined.
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Dave Farrance wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

David Woolley wrote:

The reason that Free to View existed was to stop people outside the UK
watching the channels. The reason that Free to Air is possible is that
the channels are on satellite multiplexes that have a ground footprint
that doesn't extend much beyond the UK,
Except they do, way beyond. All of France, a good chunk of Italy, and with a
large enough dish, and a clear sky, the Canary Is.

Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D?

http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php

I'm talking about 2D. We were on holiday in Tenerife in 2006, and the
apartments were fed by a 4 metre dish. Worked fine, BBC,ITV and C4.
Except on a day with torrential rain, (which of course was the very day we
could have done with it working !)

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Mark Carver wrote:

Dave Farrance wrote:
Are you talking about Astra 2A/B or 2D?
http://www.insatinternational.com/astra_footprint.php

I'm talking about 2D. We were on holiday in Tenerife in 2006, and the
apartments were fed by a 4 metre dish. Worked fine, BBC,ITV and C4.
Except on a day with torrential rain, (which of course was the very day we
could have done with it working !)

Fair enough. I'd guess that the programme rights-holders would assume
that the limited number of ex-pats and others that go to extremes to get
UK TV have marginal effect on their licencing revenue calculations.