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Panasonic TV fault today
Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? or the Beeb have been undoing some of the tweaks they put in place for the limpics, IIRC they usually do the changes on a Wednesday, tried a re-tune? |
Panasonic TV fault today
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? This is a DIY group. I suggest you take a chain saw to the TV set. But of course be sure to disconnect it from the mains before you start. Safety first! Bill |
Panasonic TV fault today
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Interesting that, with no updates whatsoever, my goodmans box keeps saying, no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete retune and at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in a transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or crap on the mains? MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters and that some systems handle that better than others do. "Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote:
MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters and that some systems handle that better than others do. Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished. Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the changes, while plenty of others could. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Panasonic TV fault today
Rod Speed wrote just
the puerile **** it always end up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. |
Panasonic TV fault today
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote: MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters and that some systems handle that better than others do. Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished. Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the changes, while plenty of others could. It's the BBC...........Funded by *us* and subbed by the backhanders the Guvmint give 'em....what could possibly go wrong or be at fault? |
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Hmm, well, it does seem a strange thing to affect though. The silly part is
that although the box claimed it had no signal, if you go to engineering info, it says the signal is fine, so its obviously confused! Can Freeview software get a virus i wonder? grin Brian -- -- From the sofa of Brian Gaff - Blind user, so no pictures please! "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Interesting that, with no updates whatsoever, my goodmans box keeps saying, no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete retune and at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in a transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or crap on the mains? MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters and that some systems handle that better than others do. "Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 05:25:27 +0100
Bill Wright wrote: Andrew Gabriel wrote: Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? This is a DIY group. I suggest you take a chain saw to the TV set. But of course be sure to disconnect it from the mains before you start. Safety first! Bill No angle grinder? -- Davey. |
Panasonic TV fault today
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Andrew Gabriel wrote: Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? Have you tried a reset to defaults and a new scan? -- *The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop digging! Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Panasonic TV fault today
On 15/08/2012 23:29, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. Sounds a bit like DAB radio except they just go sullen and silent when crashed by an incoming unplayable noisy datastream. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? More likely that they have reacted badly to various Olympics channels vanishing or by coincidence you both have dodgy aerial leads. I'll try mine tonight on terrestrial DTV to see if it has any problems. Regards, Martin Brown |
Panasonic TV fault today
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, "Mark Carver" writ:
On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote: MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters and that some systems handle that better than others do. Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished. Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the changes, while plenty of others could. My Panasonic Viera has suffered from this problem a few times in the past after changes to the software and/or transmitter. I can confirm that a reset and re-tune will fix the problems. -- P |
Panasonic TV fault today
Is it a Panasonic Freesat?
Mine does it. Regards David "Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? |
Panasonic TV fault today
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? If it's any use, I have the same problem on my Panasonic 26" Freeview TV receiving signals from Sandy Heath. It's only on BBC channels, and it was not corrected by a re-tune yesterday. If I switch to the input from my Panasonic DVD recorder, the signal seems OK and consistent. It's not the aerial connection then, as proved by other TVs around the house continuing to work on the BBC channels off the same downlead but through different STBs. |
Panasonic TV fault today
On 15/08/2012 23:29, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried. This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter. Exactly the same fault. Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware to their TV's? We are on the Heathfield transmitter and both of our TV's a Panasonic and a Toshiba have been intermittently having that problem for the past three days. Our signal comes back after a few moments. Each time it has been on BBC1. Last night around 9.20 I switched to BBC1 HD and it did not happen again. Derek |
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Panasonic TV fault today
On 16/08/2012 17:14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference. The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update. I emailed BBC transmitter engineering... You're not alone Post 11 onwards http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1658172 It's either something the Beeb have done, that Pannys don't like, or (more likely) something non compliant in the Panny's existing firmware. If it's the latter, it will have to be put right by Panasonic, via an over the air update. The downside is they are normally carried on the BBC Mux, which might provide a difficulty if you can't receive it ! Do the affected sets have an Ethernet and/or USB port ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
Panasonic TV fault today
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Mark Carver writes: On 16/08/2012 17:14, Andrew Gabriel wrote: OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference. The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update. I emailed BBC transmitter engineering... You're not alone Post 11 onwards http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1658172 It's either something the Beeb have done, that Pannys don't like, or (more likely) something non compliant in the Panny's existing firmware. If it's the latter, it will have to be put right by Panasonic, via an over the air update. The downside is they are normally carried on the BBC Mux, which might provide a difficulty if you can't receive it ! Do the affected sets have an Ethernet and/or USB port ? Mine doesn't (slightly too old for that I think). It has an SD card slot, and I did see a reference on the internet somewhere (about a different problem) that some can be updated by using this. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference. .... Casting my mind back a few months a normal reset/retune wouldn't solve a particular problem with certain Freeview Boxes. They kept asking you to do a retune after five minutes. The solution was to remove the aerial, do a retune cycle with no signal, plug the aerial back in and try again. All I know is that this worked on mine - it may have been a Grundig (crap) or a Goodmans (no problems so far) box. I probably read about it on Usenet or a Web Forum as it doesn't appear in the "manual". michael adams .... The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update. I emailed BBC transmitter engineering... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
I've been experiencing the "No Service" issue on my Panasonic plasma on BBC1 since yesterday evening. I switch over to another channel and back again to temporarily solve it. It has happened at least 7 times since yesterday evening and again this evening.
My signal strength is great 10/10 and if I unplug the aerial I receive a "No Signal" error message instead - so I know it's not a signal problem. Has anybody managed to solve it? Should I take the TV back to the shop as it is 3 years old on a 5 year warranty? |
Panasonic TV fault today
On 16/08/2012 17:32, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Mark Carver writes: On 16/08/2012 17:14, Andrew Gabriel wrote: OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference. The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update. I emailed BBC transmitter engineering... You're not alone Post 11 onwards http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1658172 It's either something the Beeb have done, that Pannys don't like, or (more likely) something non compliant in the Panny's existing firmware. If it's the latter, it will have to be put right by Panasonic, via an over the air update. The downside is they are normally carried on the BBC Mux, which might provide a difficulty if you can't receive it ! Do the affected sets have an Ethernet and/or USB port ? Mine doesn't (slightly too old for that I think). It has an SD card slot, and I did see a reference on the internet somewhere (about a different problem) that some can be updated by using this. Mine does have ethernet and built in freesat tuner which it is normally using. I put it on DTV terrestrial for the news and it seems fine apart from grumbling that new channels have been found do I want to retune. It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones. Regards, Martin Brown |
Panasonic TV fault today
It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones. Regards, Martin Brown My set is a Panasonic TX-L26X10B is three years old and has been faithfully retuned to cope with all the recent channel changes. Retuning this morning didn't make any difference. |
Panasonic TV fault today
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Martin Brown writes: It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones. TX-L26X10B, 3 years old. This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted. TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted. These all have integral freeview tuners. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Panasonic TV fault today
It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones. Regards, Martin Brown My set is a Panasonic TX-L26X10B is three years old and has been faithfully retuned to cope with all the recent channel changes. Retuning this morning didn't make any difference. |
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Panasonic TV fault today
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference. The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update. I emailed BBC transmitter engineering... Don't expect Panasonic UK service to be enthusiastic in resolving it either! I am still waiting to receive the card with the software update that would resolve acknowledged problems with Panasonic firmware following Phase 1 of the Rowridge Transmitter switchover back in March. Fortunately, the problem disappeared on Phase 2 of the switchover a few weeks later, but that just shows there is something fundamentally unstable and non-compliant with the Panny firmware, not that the problem has gone away. I haven't had any issues with the changes to the PSB mux for the Limpets, or the return to normal afterwards (I didn't do a retune to get the extra Limpet streams just in case), but I sure wouldn't want to be the proverbial "elephant hanging over a cliff with my tail tied to a daisy" waiting on a Panasonic UK rescue! Why can't Panasonic just contract engineers with proven ability to write compliant firmware? Most other vendors seem to manage OK. -- Kennedy |
Panasonic TV fault today
On 16/08/2012 23:15, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Martin Brown writes: It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones. TX-L26X10B, 3 years old. That is a surprise since I think my unaffected HD one is about the same age TX-L37G10B. (but I don't think it was ever used on terrestrial DTV over the Olympics since satellite had many more HD channels). If memory serves G/X/? signify freesat/network addon features. This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted. TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted. These all have integral freeview tuners. I have access to a TX-26LXD60 and a TX-?30L??? will check at the weekend. Although I'd have expected to have been rung up by now if there was anything funny going on with BBC1 ! Regards, Martin Brown |
Panasonic TV fault today
Well my Panasonic a few years old now had a function issue Panasonic took
their time, 3 years, to provide an upgrade so I doubt you will get anywhere my next TV will not be a Panasonic. Regards David wrote in message ... I've been experiencing the "No Service" issue on my Panasonic plasma on BBC1 since yesterday evening. I switch over to another channel and back again to temporarily solve it. It has happened at least 7 times since yesterday evening and again this evening. My signal strength is great 10/10 and if I unplug the aerial I receive a "No Signal" error message instead - so I know it's not a signal problem. Has anybody managed to solve it? Should I take the TV back to the shop as it is 3 years old on a 5 year warranty? |
Panasonic TV fault today
My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO. The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels.
Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update. J |
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Panasonic TV fault today
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wrote: My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO. The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels. Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update. J If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be effected? -- *Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:06:29 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote: If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be effected? Affected. -- *Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Your sig. separator is broken. |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote: In article , wrote: My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO. The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels. Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update. J If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be effected? Not necessarily. Other RXs might miss a detail that was 'out of spec' according to the standards. Or even have been programmed by someone sufficiently bright+cynical to include the relevant exception handler for what looked like an absurd input pattern. You know the old joke about 'press any key to continue'... ;- Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Panasonic TV fault today
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update. J If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be effected? Not necessarily. Even supposing that there is an unambiguous specification, Panasonic could be failing to comply with it, or the BBC could be failing to comply with it in a way that only affects some receivers. -- Richard |
Panasonic TV fault today
The TV has been on BBC channels for some considerable time this morning and no sign of the 'no signal' message!
Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever. Janet |
Panasonic TV fault today
No sign of the problem here this morning. Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever!
Janet |
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On 17/08/2012 13:50, Norman Wells wrote:
wrote: No sign of the problem here this morning. Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever! No problem here either having watched BBC1 for over an hour. I wonder if we'll ever get an explanation? There are a number of possible scenarios :- One is the Beeb have reversed something that got applied on Wednesday, in addition to the post Olympics rejig, to allow Panasonic time to rewrite and test their firmware, and quietly apply it via an over the air download. A few years ago the Beeb changed something in their MHEG code, that caused Topfield PVRs to go bananas. The Beeb reversed their upgrade, until Toppy had corrected their code, and made it available for download. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:27:15 +0200, Martin wrote:
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