Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

Is there any standardisation of the interface and transmission of internet
delivered tv?
I ask as it seems to me that it would be much easier for people if there
was a kind of client built into so called smart tvs that were all the same
on all the channels rather than disperate web site designs etc. Certainly
from my point of view, I use a client to view bbc stuff quite easily on a
computer, but sites like ch 4 itv and demand 5 have all got completely
inpenetrable systems and cannot be used with the client.

Seems odd when you consider that most tvs that use off air or cable use the
same interface for all channels.

Brian

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Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

Brian Gaff wrote:
Is there any standardisation of the interface and transmission of internet
delivered tv?

That would deny the web designers their raison d'etre!

I suspect what you are seeing is the perceived need of web designers to
control the user experience, as against the original concept, that came
from CERN, of simple semantic markup that allowed the browser to format
the stuff to the users' tastes.

Often this means that sites are designed empirically against a recent
version of IE, and, if you are lucky a recent one of Firefox, running
full screen, at at least 1024x768, with keyboard and mouse.

I think you are finding a couple of decades of the history of the
commercial web!

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

Yes indeed, but my point is that for ease of use it might be nice if they
all had a standard interface, there is no reason why they should not have
the complicated mouse driven one, but it would make using stuff for those
not interested in the complexities so much easier.

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:
Is there any standardisation of the interface and transmission of
internet delivered tv?

That would deny the web designers their raison d'etre!

I suspect what you are seeing is the perceived need of web designers to
control the user experience, as against the original concept, that came
from CERN, of simple semantic markup that allowed the browser to format
the stuff to the users' tastes.

Often this means that sites are designed empirically against a recent
version of IE, and, if you are lucky a recent one of Firefox, running full
screen, at at least 1024x768, with keyboard and mouse.

I think you are finding a couple of decades of the history of the
commercial web!

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Yes indeed, but my point is that for ease of use it might be nice if
they all had a standard interface, there is no reason why they should
not have the complicated mouse driven one, but it would make using
stuff for those not interested in the complexities so much easier.

Bear in mind that from the POV of a maker of consumer equipment the point
of 'standards' is that everyone else should adopt the 'standard' created by
that maker. Hence all the clashes over +/- specs for DVD, DCC versus
MiniDisc, etc, etc, right back to 45rpm 7" versus LP or different types of
cylinder, film sizes, etc.

The maker doesn't want to have to adopt (and pay fees for) someone else's
'standards'. They either want to be the one charging others and control
what they can do, or be part of a 'pool' who so control 'standards'.

People are developing things like HTML5, etc. But in reality we generally
get multiple 'standards' foisted on us by different companies as a part of
their 'competition'.

Hence the concerns some of us have wrt open standards and IPR games that
affect choice.

Slainte,

Jim

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Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

The nearest thing at the moment seems to be youview (www.youview.com) which is still in its infancy: only launched on the 4th of this month. Needs yet another set-top box though.

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes indeed, but my point is that for ease of use it might be nice if they
all had a standard interface, there is no reason why they should not have
the complicated mouse driven one, but it would make using stuff for those
not interested in the complexities so much easier.


One problem with standard interfaces is it is too easy to repackage the
interface, with your own commercial payload. That's why most video
feeds are wrapped in Flash, rather than simple links to the stream itself.

As already hinted, it would also confirm that the commercial artists,
called web designers, aren't actually providing any value for their
salaries.

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 09:42:45h +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I ask as it seems to me that it would be much easier for people if there
was a kind of client built into so called smart tvs that were all the same
on all the channels rather than disperate web site designs etc.

Have you been totally igoring recent postings on this topic.

The open command standard for delivering content over the Internet is HibbTV.

http://www.hbbtv.ORG/

Version 1.0 of the HbbTV specification has been approved by ETSI as
ETSI TS 102 796 v1.1.1 in June 2010.

http://www.etsi.ORG/deliver/etsi_ts/102700_102799/102796/01.01.01_60/ts_102796v010101p.pdf

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

On 15/07/2012 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
Is there any standardisation of the interface and transmission of internet
delivered tv?
I ask as it seems to me that it would be much easier for people if there
was a kind of client built into so called smart tvs that were all the same
on all the channels rather than disperate web site designs etc. Certainly
from my point of view, I use a client to view bbc stuff quite easily on a
computer, but sites like ch 4 itv and demand 5 have all got completely
inpenetrable systems and cannot be used with the client.

Seems odd when you consider that most tvs that use off air or cable use the
same interface for all channels.

Brian

I think that the BBC with the iPlayer goes out of its way to avoid a
standard methodology - to make it harder for the content to be recorded.

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Michael Chare

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

Michael Chare wrote:

I think that the BBC with the iPlayer goes out of its way to avoid a
standard methodology - to make it harder for the content to be recorded.

Which is kind of pointless given they broadcast it in clear at 720x576
or 1920x1080 in the first place ...

Standardisation of internet delivered content?
 

In article , Andy
Burns
wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:

I think that the BBC with the iPlayer goes out of its way to avoid a
standard methodology - to make it harder for the content to be
recorded.

Which is kind of pointless given they broadcast it in clear at 720x576
or 1920x1080 in the first place ...

These things don't have to make sense or be rational. They are decisions
made by suits anxious to please other suits. Many of whom are clueless
about 'technology'.

Slainte,

Jim

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