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On 14/07/2012 18:45, Peter wrote:

I reckon that there is nobody in Wales older than 5 or 6 yrs who's
only language is Welsh


Parents who deliberately inflict this on their children for their own
selfish political reasons should be sent to prison.

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A straw man argument ? Could be you've never left the hall of the mountain king and seen daylight.

This is becoming dreary.

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On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 23:15:16h +0100, Silk declared:

A foreign language is "babble" to anyone who doesn't understand it.
Don't be so touchy.

Who is being touchy. I asked the question --

Does your wife regard all spoken communication which is not
in English to be "babbling"?

You have just answered the question as it applies to you -- that you
do indeed regard regard all spoken communication which is not in English
to be "babbling" to Anglophone monoglots.

Thank you for your answer, it reveals much and indicates that you
must never watch VO movies in languages which you do not understand
because of the babbling.

Your response will be recorded and may be used for statistical purpoises.

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On 15/07/2012 23:21, Gareth Owen wrote:
A straw man argument ? Could be you've never left the hall of the mountain king and seen daylight.

I see you've avoided giving the answer.

This is becoming dreary.

But at least we're able to understand each other using a common language.

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:19:20 +0100, Silk wrote:

On 14/07/2012 18:45, Peter wrote:

I reckon that there is nobody in Wales older than 5 or 6 yrs who's
only language is Welsh


Parents who deliberately inflict this on their children for their own
selfish political reasons should be sent to prison.


I don't think that politics comes into it. Obviously there will be the
mad minority, but most parents will speak Welsh as their first
language and probably live in a Welsh speaking community - this is how
children are monoglot for their first few years
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In article , J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 23:15:16h +0100, Silk declared:

A foreign language is "babble" to anyone who doesn't understand it.
Don't be so touchy.

Who is being touchy. I asked the question --

Does your wife regard all spoken communication which is not
in English to be "babbling"?

You have just answered the question as it applies to you -- that you
do indeed regard regard all spoken communication which is not in English
to be "babbling" to Anglophone monoglots.

The dictionary would have answered this for you.

Thank you for your answer, it reveals much and indicates that you
must never watch VO movies in languages which you do not understand
because of the babbling.

Non sequitur alert! How can hearing foreign speech as babble reveal
anything at all about anybody's viewing habits? For what it's worth, I only
know one language well enough to speak it, but often watch foreign movies
with subtitles. Even if there is an alternative English dubbed soundtrack
on the DVD or an American remake which is in English anyway, I will
*always* go for the original whenever possible. I've thoroughly enjoyed the
recent spate of foreign cop dramas that BBC4 has given us, and look forward
to enjoying more of them.

Your response will be recorded and may be used for statistical purpoises.

You can record mine as well if you like, for all the good it will do.
Statistics that are unrelated to real life are just a load of babble.

Rod.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/

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On 16/07/2012 02:00, J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 23:15:16h +0100, Silk declared:

A foreign language is "babble" to anyone who doesn't understand it.
Don't be so touchy.

Who is being touchy. I asked the question --

Does your wife regard all spoken communication which is not
in English to be "babbling"?

You have just answered the question as it applies to you -- that you
do indeed regard regard all spoken communication which is not in English
to be "babbling" to Anglophone monoglots.

I think you'll find "babble" is related to "Babel" as in the Biblical
story of the "Tower of Babel", where God started all this different
languages nonesense in the first place.

The story goes that God wasn't too happy about this tower, so he put a
spanner in the works by preventing people from being able to communicate
with each other and they just kind of wandered off when speaking loudly
and slowly in what had suddenly become their new language met with blank
looks implying madness on the part of the speaker.

Quite why anyone would wish to do this deliberately in the present day
without the help of a devine being is a complete mystery to me.

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:56 +0100, Silk wrote:

On 16/07/2012 02:00, J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 23:15:16h +0100, Silk declared:

A foreign language is "babble" to anyone who doesn't understand it.
Don't be so touchy.

Who is being touchy. I asked the question --

Does your wife regard all spoken communication which is not
in English to be "babbling"?

You have just answered the question as it applies to you -- that you
do indeed regard regard all spoken communication which is not in English
to be "babbling" to Anglophone monoglots.

I think you'll find "babble" is related to "Babel" as in the Biblical
story of the "Tower of Babel", where God started all this different
languages nonesense in the first place.

I think that is a coincidence that "babble" and "Babel" sound similar in
English.

The Oxford English Dictionary says of the verb "babble":

Etymology: Apparently the syllable /ba/ which is characteristic
of early infantile vocalization, this syllable being taken as
typical of childish speech, and hence of indistinct or nonsensical
talk + -le suffix 3. Compare prattle v. Compare also the name of
Babel (see Babel n.), which, although etymologically unrelated, may
have been associated with the verb in later use;

(The symbol "" is used to mean "from".)

The story goes that God wasn't too happy about this tower, so he put a
spanner in the works by preventing people from being able to communicate
with each other and they just kind of wandered off when speaking loudly
and slowly in what had suddenly become their new language met with blank
looks implying madness on the part of the speaker.

Quite why anyone would wish to do this deliberately in the present day
without the help of a devine being is a complete mystery to me.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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On Monday, July 16th, 2012, at 10:37:02h +0100, Peter wrote:

I don't think that politics comes into it.

Silk wants to have laws to take children away from
their Cymraeg speaking parents.

How is that not politics?

Children are already being taken away from their parents
because they are deemed obese.

http://www.dailymail.co.UK/health/article-432045/Children-care-fat.html

Not just in the UKofGB&NI but in the State of Victoria as well.

http://au.news.yahoo.COM/nsw/latest/a/-/article/14208997/obese-kids-taken-from-parents-care/

It is just the start of the process to require parents to
get a breeding licence fromt the state, something with which
the "cull the excess population" movement of certain posters
to this newsgroup actively support.

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On Monday, July 16th, 2012, at 11:06:35h +0100, Roderick Stewart asked:

How can hearing foreign speech as babble reveal
anything at all about anybody's viewing habits?

Because if you think the language is babble, you will not
listen to 90 minutes of "babbling" will you?

For what it's worth, I only know one language well enough to speak it,
but often watch foreign movies with subtitles.

Obviously because you do not consider foreign language speech
to be babble.

Statistics that are unrelated to real life are just a load of babble.

Are you implying that the statement of Silk and your statement
is not related to real life?