S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 00:59:44h +0100, Ian observed:

All said without a hint of irony.

Many neo-fascists maintain a state of denial for
many years.

Applying the principles of doublethink helps as well
to maintain their position.

"When Mussolini was subjecting the Italian working class
to his castor oil 'treatments' and other bestial tortures,
Churchill became deeply impressed with his 'gentle and
simple bearing'."

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:01:00 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 07:57:24h +0100, Harry reported:

I asked my wife what happened when the caller turned out to be a
Welsh speaker who, heartened to find somebody to talk to,
*babbled on in* that language.

Does your wife regard all spoken communication which is not
in English to be "babbling"?

Wouldn't know seeing as it was me who mentioned babbling - as in "to
idly chatter". No offense was meant, but if you want to find some,
knock yourself out.

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

The fault here is with you wife's employers. If they expect a non-speaker to use Welsh they should be arrange lessons for her.

Gareth

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 13:59:41h +0100, Harry wrote:

Wouldn't know seeing as it was me who mentioned babbling -
as in "to idly chatter".

You may think that is a valid definition of babble, but it is not.

The definition of babble which relates to its most common use is

"to utter in an incoherently or meaninglessly repetitious manner"

Another other definition is

"to talk enthusiastically or excessively"

No offense as to your lack of knowledge of what the word
babble means in common use is herebly implied.

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On 14/07/2012 23:41, Gareth Owen wrote:

There were laws forbidden public office to welsh speaker enacted
c1540 which weren't repealed in their entirety until c1993. I was
educated entirely in english despite been a child of a welsh first
language family in the NW heartland of the language.

In what way would it have been an advantage to have been educated
entirely in Welsh?

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On 15/07/2012 00:59, Ian wrote:

That's "Fascist" by the way.

I'll have to take the word of an expert.

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 18:44:32h +0100, Silk declared:

I'll have to take the word of an expert.

Just an amateur at weekends then? ;)

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On 15/07/2012 21:17, J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 18:44:32h +0100, Silk declared:

I'll have to take the word of an expert.

Just an amateur at weekends then? ;)


An amateur? The horror!

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On 15/07/2012 14:41, Gareth Owen wrote:
The fault here is with you wife's employers. If they expect a non-speaker to use Welsh they should be arrange lessons for her.


No, the fault lies with the morons who make the rules. Welsh deserves to
die with a bit of dignity.

All Welsh speakers can now also speak English - time to move on.

S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012
 

On 15/07/2012 15:59, J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, July 15th, 2012, at 13:59:41h +0100, Harry wrote:

Wouldn't know seeing as it was me who mentioned babbling -
as in "to idly chatter".

You may think that is a valid definition of babble, but it is not.

A foreign language is "babble" to anyone who doesn't understand it.
Don't be so touchy.