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Hmm, well the press release seems to be saying, yes we will collaborate but
we both want to do our own thing. I suspect this is so that there is no in
fighting over the patents which could damage both companies and cause
problems if they are going to break the lead of the Korean manufacturers in
the future, though i suspect that they will end up at each others throats..
but behind the scenes instead of the all out war we have seen in this sector
before.

I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv though.. grin.
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In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv though.. grin.
Brian

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk of
my living room back.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk of
my living room back.

But the layout of many rooms fits the "telly in corner" method,
including the position of mains/aerial points, and how many pictures do
you hang on your walls at sitting-down eye-height? Above the fireplace
just gives you neck ache.

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In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv though.. grin.
Brian

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are
then placed across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that
needed the corner to conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For
me, the point of a flat screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a
picture and get a huge chunk of my living room back.

In my Victorian house with large bay windows and fireplace, there is
nowhere I could have a wall mounted TV. Above the fireplace would be too
high - and sitting with your back to the fireplace would be weird.

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:11:05 +0100
Roderick Stewart wrote:

In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv
though.. grin. Brian

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the
number that put them on little stands on top of items of furniture
which are then placed across a corner of the room, just like the old
TV that needed the corner to conceal the depth of the back end of the
CRT. For me, the point of a flat screen TV was to hang it on the wall
like a picture and get a huge chunk of my living room back.

Rod.

We can't find enough wall space to hang our pictures on, let alone put
a TV set up there as well. It fits just fine in the corner, standing on
top of the recording machine, and it's at the right height for
viewing.
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On 25/06/2012 11:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv though.. grin.
Brian

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are
then placed across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that
needed the corner to conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For
me, the point of a flat screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a
picture and get a huge chunk of my living room back.

In my Victorian house with large bay windows and fireplace, there is
nowhere I could have a wall mounted TV. Above the fireplace would be too
high - and sitting with your back to the fireplace would be weird.


Same here. I did try a wall mount in the alcove, so that the TV could be
pushed flush to the wall when required, listening to music etc. I
couldn't get used to it, so the TV now sits on a shallow stand. Still
saves a bunch of space compared to a CRT.

Rob

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In article , Andy Burns
wrote:
Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk of
my living room back.

But the layout of many rooms fits the "telly in corner" method,
including the position of mains/aerial points, and how many pictures do
you hang on your walls at sitting-down eye-height? Above the fireplace
just gives you neck ache.

The best placing depends on the layout of the room of course, but in my case I
don't have a fireplace (What would be the point of one anyway when you have
central heating?), so the TV was opposite my sofa in front of a straight wall,
the corners of the room being either unsuitable or otherwise occuped. Replacing
the huge box with a flat panel on the wall made the room seem a lot larger.

Viewing height can be whatever you like. I experimented by blu-tacking onto the
wall large sheets of paper the same sizes as the screens I was thinking of
buying, and ended up with something that exactly suits me. Anybody can do this,
which is why I'm surprised that so many just seem to use a flat screen as an
exact drop-in replacement for whatever they had before, without taking any
advantage at all of the fact that it's flat. Oh well. Each to their own.

Rod.
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Davey wrote:

We can't find enough wall space to hang our pictures on,

Yes, same he

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/201206251290.jpg

Also we have nowhere to put the black dolls' house.

Bill

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In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
The best placing depends on the layout of the room of course, but in my
case I don't have a fireplace (What would be the point of one anyway
when you have central heating?)

Decorative - although mine can be used if needed. Of course if all you do
in your living room is watch TV, a plain box of a room would be fine.

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Yes, it almost makes me want to buy a screen for my box, just in case anyone
comes over. The old tvs were heavy and too big.
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In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm not sure whether the world is ready for the roll up tv though..
grin.
Brian

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then
placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner
to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk
of
my living room back.

Rod.
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Nah, you get a nice reclining chair. At least that seems to be the way its
going.
Brian

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o.uk...
Roderick Stewart wrote:

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then
placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner
to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk
of
my living room back.

But the layout of many rooms fits the "telly in corner" method, including
the position of mains/aerial points, and how many pictures do you hang on
your walls at sitting-down eye-height? Above the fireplace just gives you
neck ache.

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LCDs don't seem that heavy to me. Obviously plasmas are, but who wants one
of them these days, they create lots of rfi, burn in and take maga current.

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:51:26 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote:

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then
placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner
to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a
flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk
of
my living room back.

But the layout of many rooms fits the "telly in corner" method,
including the position of mains/aerial points, and how many pictures do
you hang on your walls at sitting-down eye-height? Above the fireplace
just gives you neck ache.

and many modern houses don't have strong enough internal walls to
support the weight of a TV.
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Have you heard the track Franks 2000 inch TV by Weird al? I have it some
place, but its bound to be on the web somewhere.

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Davey wrote:

We can't find enough wall space to hang our pictures on,

Yes, same he

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/201206251290.jpg

Also we have nowhere to put the black dolls' house.

Bill

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On 25/06/2012 13:11, Roderick Stewart wrote:
In [email protected] w.co.uk, Andy Burns
wrote:
Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number that
put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are then placed
across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that needed the corner to
conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For me, the point of a flat
screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a picture and get a huge chunk of
my living room back.
But the layout of many rooms fits the "telly in corner" method,
including the position of mains/aerial points, and how many pictures do
you hang on your walls at sitting-down eye-height? Above the fireplace
just gives you neck ache.
The best placing depends on the layout of the room of course, but in my case I
don't have a fireplace (What would be the point of one anyway when you have
central heating?), so the TV was opposite my sofa in front of a straight wall,
the corners of the room being either unsuitable or otherwise occuped. Replacing
the huge box with a flat panel on the wall made the room seem a lot larger.

Viewing height can be whatever you like. I experimented by blu-tacking onto the
wall large sheets of paper the same sizes as the screens I was thinking of
buying, and ended up with something that exactly suits me. Anybody can do this,
which is why I'm surprised that so many just seem to use a flat screen as an
exact drop-in replacement for whatever they had before, without taking any
advantage at all of the fact that it's flat. Oh well. Each to their own.

Rod.
The old TV had the advantage of using the corner but the height to view
was never aided or hindered by the deep CRT. So to my mind the only
advantage of the flat panel TV is that it can butt up against the wall
at the same height as our old CRT used to be but without protruding into
the room.

TV is supposed to be relaxing, not a way to get neck ache. Long live
the cabinet mounted TV stand. I have noticed council estates seem to
have the highest mounted TV's.

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http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...1206/12-0625E/

Great news.

I bet ITV4 will look fantastic. :¬)
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In article , Gary wrote:
So to my mind the only
advantage of the flat panel TV is that it can butt up against the wall
at the same height as our old CRT used to be but without protruding into
the room.

As you wish, but to me the advantage of a flat TV that can be placed
anywhere or hung on the wall at any height was that I didn't need to be
content with the same as before just because it was the same as before, but
could start again from first principles. I can now have the display
wherever I'm most comfortable looking, rather than suffer the restriction
of placing it where it used to be physically easiest to support a great big
heavy box. In other words, the flat screen is a piece of technological
progress that has given me more freedom rather than less, so it seemed
silly not to make use of it.

And the picture is bigger and better.

And it consumes less power.

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In article , Ian wrote:
In message , Mark Carver
writes

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201206/12-0625E

Great news.

I bet ITV4 will look fantastic. :¬)

Or possibly not, but your holiday snaps will look tremendous. Even if
you've only used one of the more recent smartphones, they'll be sharper
than HDTV.

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:25:46 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:19:01 +0100, Bob Latham
wrote:

In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:

Many don't quite seem ready for flat screen ones, judging by the number
that put them on little stands on top of items of furniture which are
then placed across a corner of the room, just like the old TV that
needed the corner to conceal the depth of the back end of the CRT. For
me, the point of a flat screen TV was to hang it on the wall like a
picture and get a huge chunk of my living room back.

I don't wish to hang a tv on the wall because....

Height. Whenever I've seen TVs on the wall they have been picture height,
which is normally head height standing up. This means that if you're sat
down, you're looking up at the TV. I seriously prefer to look down at TVs
(literally) which is very much more comfortable.

I don't wish to channel the wall out to hide the cables and certainly
don't want then hanging down the wall.

My flat screen is staying on a stand which I much prefer and can get at
the back of it very easily.

Also the best view is from a cone orthogonal to the centre of the
screen and not from a large oblique angle, depending on the set, even
if it does claim a 180 degree viewing angle.

For a good picture with Passive 3D, it's necessary for the viewer to be
nearly level with the centre of the screen and almost normal to it otherwise
there's cross-talk between the images.
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Roderick Stewart wrote:

As you wish, but to me the advantage of a flat TV that can be placed
anywhere or hung on the wall at any height was that I didn't need to be
content with the same as before just because it was the same as before, but
could start again from first principles. I can now have the display
wherever I'm most comfortable looking, rather than suffer the restriction
of placing it where it used to be physically easiest to support a great big
heavy box. In other words, the flat screen is a piece of technological
progress that has given me more freedom rather than less, so it seemed
silly not to make use of it.

How have you dealt with the cables, and auxiliary devices connected to it,
presumably they don't float in mid air, but require some form of housing ?



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Gary wrote:

I have noticed council estates seem to
have the highest mounted TV's.

It's a matter of intelligence.

Bill

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Roderick Stewart wrote:

Or possibly not, but your holiday snaps will look tremendous. Even if
you've only used one of the more recent smartphones, they'll be sharper
than HDTV.

Yes, but do you really want that? Think on.

Bill

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In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
As you wish, but to me the advantage of a flat TV that can be placed
anywhere or hung on the wall at any height was that I didn't need to be
content with the same as before just because it was the same as before,
but could start again from first principles. I can now have the display
wherever I'm most comfortable looking, rather than suffer the
restriction of placing it where it used to be physically easiest to
support a great big heavy box. In other words, the flat screen is a
piece of technological progress that has given me more freedom rather
than less, so it seemed silly not to make use of it.

Snag is all LCDs are considerably worse than CRT sets off axis.

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On 25/06/2012 18:55, Bill Wright wrote:
Gary wrote:

I have noticed council estates seem to have the highest mounted TV's.

It's a matter of intelligence.

Bill
I also thin they mount them so they CAN be seen from outside.

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On 25/06/2012 18:55, Bill Wright wrote:
Gary wrote:

I have noticed council estates seem to have the highest mounted TV's.

It's a matter of intelligence.

Bill
I also think they mount them so they CAN be seen from outside.

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Gary wrote:
On 25/06/2012 18:55, Bill Wright wrote:
Gary wrote:

I have noticed council estates seem to have the highest mounted TV's.

It's a matter of intelligence.

Bill
I also think they mount them so they CAN be seen from outside.

It was ever thus. In the 50s my dad used to sell aerials to people who
didn't have tellys.

Bill

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In message , Bill Wright
writes
Roderick Stewart wrote:

Or possibly not, but your holiday snaps will look tremendous. Even if
you've only used one of the more recent smartphones, they'll be
sharper than HDTV.

Yes, but do you really want that? Think on.

Bill

Now you can bore your friends in VHD
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As an aside, when I found photography was now not very easy, I went over to
recording sound on my holidays. However, a recording standing on a barely
cooled lava flow in some out of the way bit of the world tends to sound
exactly like a recording made standing in a field in surrey....

Brian

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In message , Bill Wright
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Roderick Stewart wrote:

Or possibly not, but your holiday snaps will look tremendous. Even if
you've only used one of the more recent smartphones, they'll be sharper
than HDTV.

Yes, but do you really want that? Think on.

Bill

Now you can bore your friends in VHD
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In article ,
Martin wrote:
In the early days of colour TV, it was common for Dutch people and
probably others to position the TV facing the window so that it could
be seen from outside. It was left switched on so that passers by could
appreciate the TV and the wealth of the occupants. A Dutch friend used
to walk along his street using his own Philips colour TV controller to
either switch the TVs off or to turn up the sound to maximum.

Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin wrote:
In the early days of colour TV, it was common for Dutch people and
probably others to position the TV facing the window so that it could
be seen from outside. It was left switched on so that passers by could
appreciate the TV and the wealth of the occupants. A Dutch friend used
to walk along his street using his own Philips colour TV controller to
either switch the TVs off or to turn up the sound to maximum.

Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.

How early is early? Maybe the Dutch got colour later than us, after
remotes had come in.

Bill

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On 6/26/2012 6:49 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
In the early days of colour TV, it was common for Dutch people and
probably others to position the TV facing the window so that it could
be seen from outside. It was left switched on so that passers by could
appreciate the TV and the wealth of the occupants. A Dutch friend used
to walk along his street using his own Philips colour TV controller to
either switch the TVs off or to turn up the sound to maximum.

Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.

I built a HeathKit colour TV in the early 60s - it had a remote control.

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On 6/26/2012 9:20 AM, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:50:52 -0400, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 6/26/2012 6:49 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
In the early days of colour TV, it was common for Dutch people and
probably others to position the TV facing the window so that it could
be seen from outside. It was left switched on so that passers by could
appreciate the TV and the wealth of the occupants. A Dutch friend used
to walk along his street using his own Philips colour TV controller to
either switch the TVs off or to turn up the sound to maximum.

Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.

I built a HeathKit colour TV in the early 60s - it had a remote control.

I am very impressed :-)

preen

I did a very good job, if I say so myself! I grew up doing that sort of
stuff - Dad was a scientist and inventor, and Mum was pretty good with
electronics, too.

Did it have unstable colours like most US TVs I saw in the mid 1960s?

It was better than most sets I saw back then.

I've been racking my brains/memory trying to remember a colour TV
that didn't have a remote controller. All the ones I have had did, but
I started late with colour TVs.

The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.

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On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:

The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.

with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.

It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been
radio controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time
ago! The manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.

Dad made a wired remote-control mute back in the 50s.

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On 26/06/2012 14:20, Martin wrote:
I've been racking my brains/memory trying to remember a colour TV
that didn't have a remote controller. All the ones I have had did, but
I started late with colour TVs.


We had a Grundig one, ca 1985, with no remote. (Hitachi tube, maybe
more of the insides than that)

Andy

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:52:50 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Have you heard the track Franks 2000 inch TV by Weird al? I have it some
place, but its bound to be on the web somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBF5bewa0ts

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"Martin" wrote in message
...

I've been racking my brains/memory trying to remember a colour TV
that didn't have a remote controller. All the ones I have had did, but
I started late with colour TVs.

My first colour TV was an 18" Sony that I bought in 1978 for £320 and lasted
until 1998. It didn't have a remote control and I didn't miss the lack.
Remotes only really became essential with teletext (which was also available
at the time but cost extra) and VCRs.

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"S Viemeister" wrote in message
...
On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:

The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.

with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.

It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been radio
controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time ago! The
manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.

Dad made a wired remote-control mute back in the 50s.

I ran a length of twisted flex terminated by a pendant switch from the TV to
my bed so I could switch it off without getting out of bed, so that's a kind
of remote control I suppose.

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In article ,
S Viemeister wrote:
On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:

The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.

with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.

It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been
radio controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time
ago! The manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.


The early remote controls were "ultrasonic".

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On 26/06/2012 21:37, charles wrote:
In ,
S wrote:
On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:
The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.
with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.
It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been
radio controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time
ago! The manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.

The early remote controls were "ultrasonic".

They did not work through glass

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On 26/06/2012 21:37, charles wrote:
In article ,
S Viemeister wrote:
On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:

The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.

with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.

It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been
radio controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time
ago! The manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.


The early remote controls were "ultrasonic".



first remote tv i ever saw belonged to my grandmother.
it had 3 buttons - volume up and down and change channel - it would
cycle through them.
sticking the remote against my ear i could clearly hear the high pitched
sound issuing forth.

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.