Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On 28/06/2012 18:11, Steve Terry wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 08:47, Steve Terry wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
snip
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?

My first Philips TV with remote was ultrasonic
If I jingled my keys in front of the TV it would change channel
I think it was a G11?
Steve Terry
I used to sell second hand G11s and I never saw a ultrasonic remote
one or IR come to that. the channels were tuned with a draw full of
variable resisters and positive action switches that had plastic
flags behind holes to show which one was selected. Gary

http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/g11...emote-control/

Steve Terry
That was interesting. As I said I never saw one. I did not say they did
not exist. I bet they cost a lot more.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On 28/06/2012 18:11, Steve Terry wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 08:47, Steve Terry wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
snip
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?

My first Philips TV with remote was ultrasonic
If I jingled my keys in front of the TV it would change channel
I think it was a G11?
Steve Terry
I used to sell second hand G11s and I never saw a ultrasonic remote
one or IR come to that. the channels were tuned with a draw full of
variable resisters and positive action switches that had plastic
flags behind holes to show which one was selected. Gary

http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/g11...emote-control/

Steve Terry
That would not work through glass windows.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On 28/06/2012 21:36, wrote:
On Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:42:14 UTC+1, Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 08:47, Steve Terry wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.
Philips colour TVs had remote controls in the 1970s when he did it.
People in Holland neither imported early US color TVs, nor bought
colour TVs before colour was transmitted here.
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?

My first Philips TV with remote was ultrasonic
If I jingled my keys in front of the TV it would change channel

I think it was a G11?

Steve Terry
I used to sell second hand G11s and I never saw a ultrasonic remote one
or IR come to that. the channels were tuned with a draw full of variable
resisters and positive action switches that had plastic flags behind
holes to show which one was selected. Smashing picture on a good one and
the faults were predictable and repairable. I made some good money with
those and had some happy customers. The refurbished ones were more
reliable than NEW.

Gary
Youre wrong. The G11 had a touch tuner with remote. http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/g11...emote-control/
The units I described were not wrong. The set was around for a long time
and were updated along the way, The majority were as I described and
later ones had different tuner draws . I saw ones fitted including
touch contact type. I said I did not see and I never got the remote
ones. They were relatively rare. But like winning the lottery if you
have, then it is not rare.

BUT the remote listed on that link is ultrasonic and would not work
through a window from the street.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On 29/06/2012 00:29, Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 21:36, wrote:
On Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:42:14 UTC+1, Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 08:47, Steve Terry wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.
Philips colour TVs had remote controls in the 1970s when he did it.
People in Holland neither imported early US color TVs, nor bought
colour TVs before colour was transmitted here.
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?

My first Philips TV with remote was ultrasonic
If I jingled my keys in front of the TV it would change channel

I think it was a G11?

Steve Terry
I used to sell second hand G11s and I never saw a ultrasonic remote one
or IR come to that. the channels were tuned with a draw full of
variable
resisters and positive action switches that had plastic flags behind
holes to show which one was selected. Smashing picture on a good one
and
the faults were predictable and repairable. I made some good money
with
those and had some happy customers. The refurbished ones were more
reliable than NEW.

Gary
Youre wrong. The G11 had a touch tuner with remote.
http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/g11...emote-control/
The units I described were not wrong. The set was around for a long
time and were updated along the way, The majority were as I described
and later ones had different tuner draws . I saw ones fitted
including touch contact type. I said I did not see and I never got
the remote ones. They were relatively rare. But like winning the
lottery if you have, then it is not rare.

BUT the remote listed on that link is ultrasonic and would not work
through a window from the street.
http://markhindes.easywebstore.co.uk...NIT_AZ99Y.aspx

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
On Thursday, June 28th, 2012, at 17:10:47 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

So we now have the G6, G8 and G11 not having remote controls.
Makes the original story even more a myth.

If it is a myth, there are two possibilities.

The Dutch person who claimed to have done this (if he actually existed
and was not a friend of a friend of a friend of the person telling
the story) told the story to ascertain how gullible the person he
was telling the story to was, or the poster to this group was
telling it to have a good laugh at those readers in the newsgroup
gullible enough to believe it.

Given this group is known for picking up on the smallest detail, it would
apply to most. ;-)

--
*Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On Friday, June 29th, 2012, at 10:47:52h +0100, Dave Plowman observed:

Given this group is known for picking up on the smallest detail, it would
apply to most. ;-)

Yes it really is proven time and time again that the preference is to
discuss the munutiae rather than the topic at hand.

We now return you to the discussion about the agreement between
Panasonic and SONY to collaborate over OLED panels ...

(Obviously not "in progress" because the discussion on the
actual topic died after the second post -- the rest of the
thread is totally irrelevant to the subject.)

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, June 29th, 2012, at 10:47:52h +0100, Dave Plowman observed:

Given this group is known for picking up on the smallest detail, it
would apply to most. ;-)

Yes it really is proven time and time again that the preference is to
discuss the munutiae rather than the topic at hand.

Of course.

We now return you to the discussion about the agreement between
Panasonic and SONY to collaborate over OLED panels ...

Well, unless there are those with inside information, the discussion will
be limited.

(Obviously not "in progress" because the discussion on the
actual topic died after the second post -- the rest of the
thread is totally irrelevant to the subject.)

'Twas ever thus.

--
*Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On Friday, June 29th, 2012, at 12:39:13h +0100, Dave Plowman suggested:

Well, unless there are those with inside information, the discussion will
be limited.

On the actual initial news yes, but the discussion could open up
to the wider of issue of what implications this has for future
OLED development, will they decrease in price and gradually
supplant LCDs, or whether not it is all a bit pointless in
view of the latest developments with cystal LED screens.

http://www.engadget.COM/2012/01/09/sony-fights-the-oled-future-with-new-crystal-led-prototype/

So much relevant discussion could be engaged in without
any need to lengthy discussions about some man claiming
to have used a remote control to change TVs in people's
windows over 30 years ago which has nothing to do with
*digital* tv today.

Such topics should be confined to the newsgroup uk.media.tv.misc

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

On 29/06/2012 00:29, Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 21:36, wrote:
On Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:42:14 UTC+1, Gary wrote:
On 28/06/2012 08:47, Steve Terry wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
Except that early colour TVs didn't have remote controls.
Philips colour TVs had remote controls in the 1970s when he did it.
People in Holland neither imported early US color TVs, nor bought
colour TVs before colour was transmitted here.
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?

My first Philips TV with remote was ultrasonic
If I jingled my keys in front of the TV it would change channel

I think it was a G11?

Steve Terry
I used to sell second hand G11s and I never saw a ultrasonic remote one
or IR come to that. the channels were tuned with a draw full of
variable
resisters and positive action switches that had plastic flags behind
holes to show which one was selected. Smashing picture on a good one
and
the faults were predictable and repairable. I made some good money
with
those and had some happy customers. The refurbished ones were more
reliable than NEW.

Gary
Youre wrong. The G11 had a touch tuner with remote.
http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/g11...emote-control/
The units I described were not wrong. The set was around for a long
time and were updated along the way, The majority were as I described
and later ones had different tuner draws . I saw ones fitted
including touch contact type. I said I did not see and I never got
the remote ones. They were relatively rare. But like winning the
lottery if you have, then it is not rare.

BUT the remote listed on that link is ultrasonic and would not work
through a window from the street.
This is the set that I was describing. the remote set was rare and the
touch or soft touch were also rare.
http://www.philipstv.org.uk/blog/wp-...3/no-3-660.jpg

you can see the hole with the little flag behind it to show the selected
button.

I NEVER SAID THEY DID NOT DO REMOTE CONTROL . I SAID I NEVER SAW ONE
.. I WAS NOT WRONG. and the sets are as I described.

Sorry to shout but it was obviously not getting through, even though I
was quoted correctly.

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 

In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
Well, unless there are those with inside information, the discussion will
be limited.

On the actual initial news yes, but the discussion could open up
to the wider of issue of what implications this has for future
OLED development, will they decrease in price and gradually
supplant LCDs, or whether not it is all a bit pointless in
view of the latest developments with cystal LED screens.

Most probably regard OLED as one of those nice ideas in a lab, but of
limited application in practice. They've been around for a long time
without becoming main stream. Likely with good reason.

--
*Beware - animal lover - brakes for pussy*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.