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Dave Plowman (News) June 27th 12 11:40 AM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
In article ,
JohnT wrote:
Colour television commenced in the Netherlands on 21st September 1967.
Here in the UK, I got a 19" colour TV in 1968 (can't remember the
make), followed by a Saba in 1972, then a Philips two years after that.
None of them had remote controls. The first TV I got with remote was a
Grundig in the late 1970s. There wasn't any great demand for remote
controls with only 3 channels to watch.


That was my thinking. By the time remote controls were common, colour TV
was also. So no real point in bragging about having one. Unless colour
didn't start in the Netherlands until the late '70s, or take up was very
slow. And if people didn't want it why brag about having one?

--
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Dave Plowman (News) June 27th 12 11:48 AM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
In article ,
Martin wrote:
Trying to remember the first Philips TVs with remote controls. Third
generation colour sets? Just when did Holland go colour?


In the 1970s.


I already posted evidence that Philips had remote controls long before
that. Time to admit that you or your memory are wrong?


Well, I had a second generation Philips colour set, a G6. Bought when BBC1
and ITV went colour, so not the earliest one. There were dual standard
colour sets before it. And despite being the posh 25" one in a cabinet
with doors - no remote. A pal later bought a G8 - again top of the range,
but no remote. So my guess is it would be the late '70s before remotes
became available on most makes - and rather later before they became
standard. By which time colour TV was no longer a novelty.

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Max Demian June 27th 12 01:16 PM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
first remote tv i ever saw belonged to my grandmother.
it had 3 buttons - volume up and down and change channel - it would
cycle through them.
sticking the remote against my ear i could clearly hear the high pitched
sound issuing forth.


First one I saw was on an IIRC Grundig TV. A hybrid design with some
valves. Switching it 'off' via the remote left the valve heaters on. So it
would switch on again quickly. Of course the average owner never read the
warnings, and left it in standby. Kept the fire service quite busy.


Though these 'instant on' sets were only around for a few years, they lead
to superstitious people insisting on unplugging their sets for a generation
after.

--
Max Demian



J G Miller[_4_] June 27th 12 01:42 PM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 10:30:22h +0100, JohnT wrote:

There wasn't any great demand for remote controls with only 3
channels to watch.


Those who could afford color televisions back then had no
need of remote controls, because they got their manservant
to change the channels for them.

Now, you just cannot get the staff ...
which is why remote controls are so essential.

Zimmy[_2_] June 27th 12 04:04 PM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
On 26/06/2012 21:40, Gary wrote:
On 26/06/2012 21:37, charles wrote:
In ,
S wrote:
On 6/26/2012 11:52 AM, Martin wrote:
wrote:
The HeathKit remote was quite unlike modern ones, its signal(not
infrared) worked little motors which turned the dials on the TV.
with a physical mechanical link? I saw that sort described in the web.
It was wireless, and didn't require line-of-sight - it may have been
radio controlled, but I don't remember for sure - it was a _long_ time
ago! The manual may be in one of the old boxes in the loft.


The early remote controls were "ultrasonic".

They did not work through glass


Indeed. Martin's story sounds like a 'memory amalgam' :-)

Z

Bill Wright[_2_] June 27th 12 06:52 PM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 10:30:22h +0100, JohnT wrote:

There wasn't any great demand for remote controls with only 3
channels to watch.


Those who could afford color televisions back then had no
need of remote controls, because they got their manservant
to change the channels for them.


There was a problem though. We always used to send the servants to bed
at nine. Father fitted bells in their rooms, but I remember our elderly
butler getting quite annoyed when he was summoned to get up, put on his
uniform, and come down to switch to Late Night Line Up. He was, it later
transpired, a crypto-Bolshevik.

Bill

J G Miller[_4_] June 27th 12 09:21 PM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
On Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, at 17:52:27h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

He was, it later transpired, a crypto-Bolshevik.


And as we all now know, the worst kind of Bolshevik is the crypto kind. ;)

R. Kennedy McEwen June 28th 12 12:30 AM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
In article , JohnT
writes

Colour television commenced in the Netherlands on 21st September 1967.
Here in the UK, I got a 19" colour TV in 1968 (can't remember the
make), followed by a Saba in 1972, then a Philips two years after that.
None of them had remote controls.


We had a Saba in 1972 too and that definitely had a remote - start of
the trend where many functions were only available on the remote. I
know the date fairly well because it was before my sister was even
expected - we would never have been able to afford one after that! It
wasn't worth bragging about: as I recall someone on the school bus said
they had a TV remote control too - his kid sister!

Trouble was the Saba used an ultrasonic remote, rather than the modern
IR versions. That, combined with my mother's knitting and sewing
machines weren't a good mix: knit one, purl one - change 3 channels up!
It had 16 preset channels, but only 3 were broadcast at the time, so
repeat tuning didn't quite fit. The resonant frequency of the L-C
circuits in the remote drifted badly with temperature too - in summer
the volume button sometimes controlled brightness.
--
Kennedy


R. Kennedy McEwen June 28th 12 12:34 AM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
In article , Gary
writes
My brothers TV had a good 'off' it fired a solenoid and literally reset
the on off switch on the TV. It was an ITT with ultrasonic remote.


My old 14" "Fidelity" still does that. I think the ITT set was
basically the same chassis.
--
Kennedy


Dave Plowman (News) June 28th 12 12:36 AM

Sony and Panny to collaborate over OLED panels
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Those who could afford color televisions back then had no
need of remote controls, because they got their manservant
to change the channels for them.


There was a problem though. We always used to send the servants to bed
at nine. Father fitted bells in their rooms, but I remember our elderly
butler getting quite annoyed when he was summoned to get up, put on his
uniform, and come down to switch to Late Night Line Up. He was, it later
transpired, a crypto-Bolshevik.


You also had to be careful the help didn't see anything on TV that might
give them ideas above their station.

--
*Arkansas State Motto: Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Laugh.

Dave Plowman London SW
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