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I guess this is why freesat exists.
Brian

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On 15/06/2012 10:56, David wrote:
Last week was on holiday in Ramsbottom, Lancashire in my caravan and
found that this town only receives from a relay with only about half the
Freeview programs.
To me it is a large populated area and the people there are being cheated
as like the rest of us pay the taxes etc. I had thought the half
program transmitters would be in small low populated areas way out in the
country villages.
Regards
David
High Wycombe is the same. only the 3 muxex. you would have thought they
could have had 4 at least.

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I use Freesat BBC1 does give me local Leeds Programs as does ITV1.
It is HD that maybe you refer to, BBC blanks out local news out and ITV1
gives us Manchester news.
So at least ITV got more sense than the BBC.
Regards
David



"J G Miller" wrote in message ...

On Friday, June 15th, 2012, at 21:39:55h +0100, Scott wrote:

An alternative argument is that through Freesat (and a clue lies i the
name) these services are in the main provided universally.

I concur with your points except on the following details.

The BBC commercial tv stations are not available on Freesat,
because the BBC prefers that people pay money to Uncle Rupert to
watch them if they cannot receive them via Freeview.

Not all ITV-1 regional news opt outs are available on Freesat,
so viewers in some areas are deprived of their most appropriate 5
minute news bulletin.

Cymraeg viewers living outside of the range of a terrestrial
transmitter are deprived of S4C Clirlun.

Surely this is unjustifiable since S4C Clirlun is funded by
television receiving licence fees?

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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:38:14 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

And from the opposite perspective, were Bristol Ilchester
Crescent and Bristol Kings Weston the only two "relays"
which did not tranmit Channel 5 but do carry all six
multiplexes?

Oooh no, there was also:-

Guildford
Hemel Hemstead
Pontypool
Aberdare
Lark Stoke
Malvern
Bromsgrove
Brierly Hill
Fenton
Chesterfield
Idle
Keigthly Keighley
Pendle Forest
Saddleworth
Lancaster
Rosneath



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On Saturday, June 16th, 2012, at 09:38:14h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

Oooh no, there was also:-

Thanks for the extensive list.

So clearly on relays there was no correspondence between
the availability of Channel 5 and digital television services
from that site except in a few unusual cases.

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J G Miller wrote:
On Saturday, June 16th, 2012, at 09:38:14h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

Oooh no, there was also:-

Thanks for the extensive list.

So clearly on relays there was no correspondence between
the availability of Channel 5 and digital television services
from that site except in a few unusual cases.

Indeed.

It also might indicate that suitable UHF allocations
for C5 analogue were 'held back' in some areas, to allow (18 mths later)
better coverage for DTT.

(If true, the right decision IMHO)

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On Saturday, 16 June, 2012, at 09:41:26h +0100, CD wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:00:51 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller wrote:

Challenge, and Challenge +1

I think you'll find those 2 are FTA on Sat.

Yes they have only just recently gone FTA on satellite, but have
they been added to the Freesat EGP yet?

When I checked yesterday on one website Freesat EPG listing,
they were not present.

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On Saturday, June 16th, 2012, at 10:03:06h +0100, David Park wrote:

I use Freesat BBC1 does give me local Leeds Programs as does ITV1.

That is true for you, but for viewers in some areas, the most appropriate
ITV-1 region is encrypted.

In other words, your particular experience in no way negates what I wrote --

Not all ITV-1 regional news opt outs are available on Freesat,
so viewers in some areas are deprived of their most appropriate 5
minute news bulletin.

The affected areas are Anglia West, Central South West, Meridian North,
Meridian South East, Tyne Tees South, and Yorkshire East.

However since the huge amalgamation of ITV local news which took place,
it may be the case that some of the above no longer have an opt out
for the particular sub-region.

As far as I am aware Meridian South East still has a dedicated opt out,
so Freesat viewers there will still be deprived.

Of course when ITV plc finally becomes a single national commercial TV
network, all of the local news will disappear and it will just be
"advertising regions" as is the case with Channel 4 and Channel 5.

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In article , says...

On Friday, June 15th, 2012, at 14:12:01h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

I can't remember the last time I watched any COM mux channel,
other than out of morbid interest.

And now that "Filth" is FTA on satellite ...


But seriously, what about ITV-3, ITV-4, Dave [maybe?] and Quest ? ;)

And Film4.

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In article ,
lid says...

J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, June 15th, 2012, at 14:12:01h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

I can't remember the last time I watched any COM mux channel,
other than out of morbid interest.

But seriously, what about ITV-3, ITV-4, Dave [maybe?] and Quest ? ;)

I'll concede, ITV 3 and 4 are probably the most useful services on the COMs.

Personally, I don't watch ITV 3 because I saw it all 20-30 years ago, same
applies to ITV 4, plus I'm not a sports fan. Dave, well yes, seen all that on
BBC 2 over the last 5 years, Quest contains documentaries that have been, or
turn up later on C4 or C5. Also Film 4, nothing on there that doesn't/won't
crop up on C4 eventually.

YMMV

Depends on your taste in films, but Film4 show loads of unusual and hard
to gets that are never shown on C4.

The other channels that can occasionally have a decent film or show on
are the two extra C5 spots.

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In article ,
lid says...

We were about to embark at Dover, when lid (Mark
Carver) came up to me and whispered:

much more than the four
analogues available pre DSO.

Did you misspell 5?

Quite a few of the relay transmitter (including my mother's which is how
come I took an interest) were never converted to show C5 so the 4
channels was it.