Odd problem with Sky News.
 

Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening I
noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with the
same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from ,16:9 to 4:3
everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them making
anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my equipment that's
faulty because when I switch to other channels they are absolutely fine, any
ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a few
parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening I
noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with the
same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from ,16:9 to
4:3 everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them
making anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my equipment
that's faulty because when I switch to other channels they are absolutely
fine, any ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a
few parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg





Sorry about the oversized pics, now corrected..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/16....20x%20343).jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3...20x%20492).jpg

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On 05/06/2012 9:17 PM, Rick wrote:
Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening
I noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with
the same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from
,16:9 to 4:3 everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them
making anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my
equipment that's faulty because when I switch to other channels they are
absolutely fine, any ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a
few parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg






maybe your box was having a funny five minutes - did you try rebooting?

--
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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:17:23 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening I
noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with the
same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from ,16:9 to 4:3
everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them making
anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my equipment that's
faulty because when I switch to other channels they are absolutely fine, any
ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a few
parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg





All Sky boxes are capable of outputting 4:3 centre cutout and 4:3
letterbox as well as true 16:9 anamorphic. Check the picture setup
menu on the box.

Is it connected via SCART or HDMI (if available)

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...
On 05/06/2012 9:17 PM, Rick wrote:
Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening
I noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with
the same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from
,16:9 to 4:3 everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them
making anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my
equipment that's faulty because when I switch to other channels they are
absolutely fine, any ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a
few parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg






maybe your box was having a funny five minutes - did you try rebooting?




Yes I've tried that, it's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other 16:9
channels are fine, in fact what I've done is switched Sky news on the telly
between Sat and Freeview both (via HDMI) and combined the two pictures, so
you can get a better idea of the problem, most odd, that's why I wondered if
it's a transmission problem.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

"Graham." wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:17:23 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

Watching the jubilee celebrations on Sky news via satellite this evening I
noticed everything looks fat and stretched when viewing in 16:9, with the
same fault even on the adverts, switching the aspect ratio from ,16:9 to
4:3
everything looks normal, how can that be?

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them
making
anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my equipment that's
faulty because when I switch to other channels they are absolutely fine,
any
ideas?

I've managed to photo a couple of pictures off a TV screen, there are a
few
parallax errors but at least it gives an idea of the problem.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/169.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/4.3.jpg





All Sky boxes are capable of outputting 4:3 centre cutout and 4:3
letterbox as well as true 16:9 anamorphic. Check the picture setup
menu on the box.

Is it connected via SCART or HDMI (if available)


It's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other 16:9 channels are fine, I
also have a Freeview STB connected to the TV as well, so I've switched
between Sat and Freeview (both connected via HDMI) taken some photos and
combined the two pictures so that you can get a better idea of the problem,
switching between pillar box and widescreen on the satellite receiver works
on every other channel except Sky News, I've tried disconnecting the
receiver from the mains for around 5 minutes, however the fault remains,
which is most odd, that's why I'm assuming that it must be a transmission
problem.

BTW the Freesat and Freeview captions in the picture are the wrong way
around.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

It's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other 16:9 channels are fine, I
also have a Freeview STB connected to the TV as well, so I've switched
between Sat and Freeview (both connected via HDMI) taken some photos and
combined the two pictures so that you can get a better idea of the problem,
switching between pillar box and widescreen on the satellite receiver works
on every other channel except Sky News, I've tried disconnecting the
receiver from the mains for around 5 minutes, however the fault remains,
which is most odd, that's why I'm assuming that it must be a transmission
problem.

BTW the Freesat and Freeview captions in the picture are the wrong way
around.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg



That is weird then.
All I can suggest is connect it up via RGB SCART and see if it's an
HDMI related problem.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...


It's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other 16:9 channels are fine,
I
also have a Freeview STB connected to the TV as well, so I've switched
between Sat and Freeview (both connected via HDMI) taken some photos and
combined the two pictures so that you can get a better idea of the
problem,
switching between pillar box and widescreen on the satellite receiver
works
on every other channel except Sky News, I've tried disconnecting the
receiver from the mains for around 5 minutes, however the fault remains,
which is most odd, that's why I'm assuming that it must be a transmission
problem.

BTW the Freesat and Freeview captions in the picture are the wrong way
around.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg



That is weird then.
All I can suggest is connect it up via RGB SCART and see if it's an
HDMI related problem.



Problem now solved, well sort of, about 100 channels down the list I found
another Sky News which works OK, checking out Lyngsat indicates that it's
Sky News Ireland, which I've now replaced the problem one with, when I'm a
bit more awake:) I'll try retuning the transponder and see if the original
UK one works and then find out whether it's a fault with that particular Sky
programme or if it has somehow got corrupted in my receiver and needs to be
reinstalled.

Thanks to both you and Gareth for your help and advice.

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:17:23 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

Sky haven't transmitted 4:3 for years and I could hardly imagine them making
anything in 4:3 nowadays, let alone adverts, it's not my equipment that's
faulty because when I switch to other channels they are absolutely fine, any
ideas?

I noticed that - they had a few stretchy-fat-vision ads on. Not that
they were originally older ads badly fitted, these were current ads
badly fitted by somebody who'd wandered in and fiddled with some
buttons.

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:45:16 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Yes I've tried that, it's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other 16:9
channels are fine, in fact what I've done is switched Sky news on the telly
between Sat and Freeview both (via HDMI) and combined the two pictures, so
you can get a better idea of the problem, most odd, that's why I wondered if
it's a transmission problem.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg


Both pictures look to have the wrong aspect ratio.

Steve

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Odd problem with Sky News.
 

"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:45:16 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Yes I've tried that, it's a Technomate TM 5402HD STB and all the other
16:9
channels are fine, in fact what I've done is switched Sky news on the
telly
between Sat and Freeview both (via HDMI) and combined the two pictures, so
you can get a better idea of the problem, most odd, that's why I wondered
if
it's a transmission problem.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/fault.jpg


Both pictures look to have the wrong aspect ratio.



They weren't grabs, just photos quickly taken off the TV screen using a
relatively cheap compact digital camera that unfortunately sufferers from
severe parallax errors (which I did apologies for in my original post).

Also the picture was only put up on Dropbox to give some idea of the
problem, which has been sorted now, hopefully my post explaining the
eventual outcome did show up on this tread, as for some reason although they
always appear on my computer, I know for a fact that they don't always show
up on others, presumably something to do the with Virgin Media server and
probably not unconnected with a declining interest in Usenet now that there
are so many other more up to date forms of social communication available.

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:30:03 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

hecking out Lyngsat indicates that it's
Sky News Ireland, which I've now replaced the problem one with,

Which is now exactly the same as the UK one; iirc, SNIre ceased some
time ago.

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:13:22 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:30:03 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

hecking out Lyngsat indicates that it's
Sky News Ireland, which I've now replaced the problem one with,

Which is now exactly the same as the UK one; iirc, SNIre ceased some
time ago.

The programme content may be the same but the adverts are different. I
just checked to confirm that.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Sunday, June 10th, 2012, at 15:06:36h +0100, Peter Duncanson explained:

The programme content may be the same but the adverts are different.

Prices are in EUROs rather than English punts, eh?

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:27:52 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, June 10th, 2012, at 15:06:36h +0100, Peter Duncanson explained:

The programme content may be the same but the adverts are different.

Prices are in EUROs rather than English punts, eh?

smile

The two differences I noticed when I looked early were that at one point
both SN UK and SN Eire were showing the same UNICEF charity advert but
the UK one had an English-accent voiceover and the Irish one an
Irish-accent voiceover It is likely that those two ads gave different
contact details. And then when SN UK was showing a QuickQuid advert
Irish SN was showing something else.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Odd problem with Sky News.
 

Peter Duncanson wrote:

The two differences I noticed when I looked early were that at one point
both SN UK and SN Eire were showing the same UNICEF charity advert but
the UK one had an English-accent voiceover and the Irish one an
Irish-accent voiceover It is likely that those two ads gave different
contact details. And then when SN UK was showing a QuickQuid advert
Irish SN was showing something else.

a PromptPunt advert? ... IGMC