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David May 25th 12 09:44 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David

Brian Gaff May 26th 12 01:18 AM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

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...
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?


EBU and Azerbaijan.
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Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 01:39 AM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?


EBU and Azerbaijan.


The EBU member broadcasters contribute to EBU funds. I understand this
is roughly in accordance with each country's population size.


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Ian May 26th 12 03:14 AM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.
--
Ian

Mark Carver May 26th 12 10:05 AM

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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?

EBU and Azerbaijan.


The EBU member broadcasters contribute to EBU funds. I understand this
is roughly in accordance with each country's population size.


It's heavily sponsored too, though all of that is hacked and blanked out of
the programme for UK consumption by the Beeb.

Despite the proportionately larger contribution the BBC pay (mentioned by
another poster) it still remains an incredibly cough cost effective way for
the Beeb to fill three hours of peak time BBC 1.

Per min, it's probably cheaper than Frozen Planet, Hustle, Strictly Come
Dancing, etc.

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Mark Carver May 26th 12 11:25 AM

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Martin wrote:

Despite the proportionately larger contribution the BBC pay (mentioned by
another poster) it still remains an incredibly cough cost effective way for
the Beeb to fill three hours of peak time BBC 1.


Isn't it 9 hours or didn't the BBC show the semi finals?


Oh yes, I forgot about about those, (so easy to) they were tucked away on BBC
3, therefore probably making them BBC 3's most expensive programming; ever.

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Ian May 26th 12 12:21 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
In message , Martin
writes
On Sat, 26 May 2012 00:39:02 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?

EBU and Azerbaijan.


The EBU member broadcasters contribute to EBU funds. I understand this
is roughly in accordance with each country's population size.


UK should have gone for basing contributions on GDP and not
population, as is used in other international organisations and
agencies of which UK is a member.


Yes, it would then be cheaper every year.
--
Ian

PeterC May 26th 12 01:18 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:09:39 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 02:14:08 +0100, Ian
wrote:

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.


All the members. Some pay a lot more than others.


GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.


There's scope for a Western European Song Contest.


Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?
--
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Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 01:41 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 12:18:27 +0100, PeterC
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:09:39 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 02:14:08 +0100, Ian
wrote:

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.


All the members. Some pay a lot more than others.


GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.


There's scope for a Western European Song Contest.


Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?


Just give it time.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Bill Wright[_2_] May 26th 12 02:09 PM

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PeterC wrote:

Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?

We are actually at war with Pakistan.

Bill

Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 02:25 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:55:59 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 12:18:27 +0100, PeterC
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:09:39 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 02:14:08 +0100, Ian
wrote:

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

All the members. Some pay a lot more than others.


GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.

There's scope for a Western European Song Contest.


Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?


They haven't joined the EBU :-)

All the North African countries & Jordan are members too
http://www.ebu.ch/en/ebu_members/actives/index.php


The Vatican is also a member.

Isn't it time we had European Song Contest entry from the Vatican.

The Vatican's Swiss Guard could provide backing dancers:
http://www.tienda-medieval.com/blog/...rdia_suiza.jpg


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David May 26th 12 03:16 PM

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Bill might seem right depends where you live.
Regards
David

"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:09:48 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

PeterC wrote:

Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel
is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?

We are actually at war with Pakistan.


Does the MOD know?
--

Martin


Java Jive[_3_] May 26th 12 03:21 PM

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I know just the lyric, "The Vatican Rag" by Tom Lehrer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKWI41G8h_A

On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:25:42 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

The Vatican is also a member.

Isn't it time we had European Song Contest entry from the Vatican.

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Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 03:26 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:21:09 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

I know just the lyric, "The Vatican Rag" by Tom Lehrer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKWI41G8h_A


Ah, yes, but I don't think that would meet the contest rules. It is a
song contest not a singing contest. The songs have to be new.


On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:25:42 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

The Vatican is also a member.

Isn't it time we had European Song Contest entry from the Vatican.


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the dog from that film you saw[_3_] May 26th 12 03:27 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On 26/05/2012 2:14 AM, Ian wrote:
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.




apparently it does still work out as the cheapest 3 hours of prime time
event television of the year though.

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Phil Cook[_2_] May 26th 12 04:19 PM

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On 26/05/2012 13:35, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:25:42 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:


The Vatican is also a member.

Isn't it time we had European Song Contest entry from the Vatican.

The Vatican's Swiss Guard could provide backing dancers:
http://www.tienda-medieval.com/blog/...rdia_suiza.jpg


I was expecting the inquisition. :-)


You must be a nobody then. ;-)
--
Phil Cook

J G Miller[_4_] May 26th 12 04:38 PM

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On Saturday, May 26th, 2012, at 13:09:48h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

We are actually at war with Pakistan.


And Pakistan really, really, really does have weapons
of mass destruction.

And the man who helped the CIA in tracking down Bin Laden's
location has just been sentenced to 33 years behind bars for
providing the information.

http://www.nytimes.COM/2012/05/24/world/asia/doctor-who-helped-find-bin-laden-given-jail-term-official-says.html

Java Jive[_3_] May 26th 12 05:54 PM

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To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:26:57 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Ah, yes, but I don't think that would meet the contest rules. It is a
song contest not a singing contest. The songs have to be new.

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Ian Jackson[_2_] May 26th 12 06:06 PM

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In message , Java Jive
writes

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:26:57 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Ah, yes, but I don't think that would meet the contest rules. It is a
song contest not a singing contest. The songs have to be new.


To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".


But at least you can still remember the tune, and probably nearly all of
the words. This is more than can be said for most of the entries for the
past ten years.
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Dickie mint May 26th 12 06:24 PM

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On 25/05/2012 20:44, David wrote:
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


From an old FoI:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805
2010 £283,190

Cheap TV! even including artiste fees, studio, lines/sat, etc

Richard

Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 06:57 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:06:16 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Java Jive
writes

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:26:57 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Ah, yes, but I don't think that would meet the contest rules. It is a
song contest not a singing contest. The songs have to be new.


To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".


But at least you can still remember the tune, and probably nearly all of
the words. This is more than can be said for most of the entries for the
past ten years.


Just returning to the original question -

Much of the cost of staging the contest is met by the host country.

Brief quotes from articles in The Times yesterday and today:

Cash-strapped Spain hopes for nul points at Eurovision
May 25 2012

Hosting Eurovision may be a badge of national pride for former
Soviet republics like Azerbaijan but it inspires financial terror in
some cash-strapped members of the European Union.

Spain's contestant has admitted that the crisis over the Euro single
currency and massive government spending cuts mean that victory in
Baku would be greeted with less than generous applause at home.
Pastora Soler joked that directors at the state broadcaster, TVE,
pleaded with her not to win because they could not afford the cost
of hosting next year's Eurovision.

"If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition
because it costs so much money," she told ABC Punto Radio.

This year's Eurovision has nul points for democracy
May 26 2012

Azerbaijan stages the most expensive and extravagant Eurovision
final in history tonight, ...

....
The Azerbaijani Government has refused to say how much
it spent on the 23,000-seat Crystal Hall, built for the event, but
researchers put the cost at $277 million (£177 million) based on
state orders for the construction.

They found that another $500 million had been lavished on
improvements in the capital, Baku. These included 1,000 London
taxis, nicknamed "aubergines" locally because of their purple
livery, to ferry visitors along the Caspian Sea shoreline between
the shimmering venue and city centre hotels, which have doubled
their rates to cash in on the influx of foreigners.

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Richard Tobin May 26th 12 10:17 PM

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In article ,
Java Jive wrote:

To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".


If so, it was a great improvement.

-- Richard

Java Jive[_3_] May 26th 12 11:19 PM

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I suspect that you are confusing the winsome pouting of Dana with
Julie Andrews in the film, and thinking she's an improvement. As far
as the actual *song* goes, it's not really an improvement - the same
sentiments expresses almost the same way with a very similar tune,
only sung at a different tempo to suit the winsome singer.

It really was an outrageous piece of plagiarism to claim it as a new
song.

On Sat, 26 May 2012 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

If so, it was a great improvement.

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Bill Wright[_2_] May 26th 12 11:47 PM

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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:09:48 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

PeterC wrote:

Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?

We are actually at war with Pakistan.


Does the MOD know?


Of course they do. Haven't you heard about the anti-terrorist
precautions for the Olympics?

Bill

Graham.[_2_] May 27th 12 03:54 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 22:19:37 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

I suspect that you are confusing the winsome pouting of Dana with
Julie Andrews in the film, and thinking she's an improvement. As far
as the actual *song* goes, it's not really an improvement - the same
sentiments expresses almost the same way with a very similar tune,
only sung at a different tempo to suit the winsome singer.

It really was an outrageous piece of plagiarism to claim it as a new
song.

On Sat, 26 May 2012 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

If so, it was a great improvement.


Original enough IMHO.
The genre is the same certainly. let's call it a whimsical wish-list.
Beyond that they are different songs.

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Graham.[_2_] May 27th 12 04:31 PM

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24:14 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

On 25/05/2012 20:44, David wrote:
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


From an old FoI:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805
2010 £283,190

Cheap TV! even including artiste fees, studio, lines/sat, etc

Richard


I spent the time trying to guess which visual elements were real and
which where virtual.

I decided that the water fountain was fake, but was proved wrong when
Jedward got its hair wet.

The Irish score reporter had trouble with her vertical hold, and being
the final score it keeps being repeated on the news with the genlock
problem.


--
Graham.
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Scott[_4_] May 27th 12 08:46 PM

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?

I watched it for a short time last night and Graham Norton was dire
(IMO). I heard people complaining about him on the car radio today.

At least Wogan was a broadcasting legend who brought a distinctive
form of presentation to the Eurovision.

Mark Carver May 27th 12 09:04 PM

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Scott wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


He stepped down.

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Paul Ratcliffe May 27th 12 09:21 PM

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On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:30:19 +0200, Martin wrote:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805


That is £29,805 more than cost of staging the 1948 Olympic Games in
London.


A pointless comparison. Why don't you compare it to the cost of staging
the 2012 Olympic Games, seeing as both events occur in 2012.
FFS, some people...

Paul Ratcliffe May 27th 12 09:23 PM

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On Sun, 27 May 2012 19:46:47 +0100, Scott
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


It was his own choosing. Good timing I reckon.

J G Miller[_4_] May 27th 12 09:44 PM

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On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 20:04:27h +0100, Mark Carver explained:

He stepped down.


To avoid being pushed? ;)


Ian Jackson[_2_] May 27th 12 10:04 PM

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In message , Scott
writes
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?

I watched it for a short time last night and Graham Norton was dire
(IMO). I heard people complaining about him on the car radio today.

At least Wogan was a broadcasting legend who brought a distinctive
form of presentation to the Eurovision.


I got the impression that Graham Norton trying to 'do a Terry Wogan' -
making cynical, disparaging remarks about the artists, the songs, and -
in particular - the voting.
--
Ian

Peter Duncanson May 28th 12 12:20 AM

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On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:04:48 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Scott
writes
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?

I watched it for a short time last night and Graham Norton was dire
(IMO). I heard people complaining about him on the car radio today.

At least Wogan was a broadcasting legend who brought a distinctive
form of presentation to the Eurovision.


I got the impression that Graham Norton trying to 'do a Terry Wogan' -
making cynical, disparaging remarks about the artists, the songs, and -
in particular - the voting.


I got the same impression. I think the idea is to keep it light-hearted.

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Steve Terry[_2_] May 28th 12 04:40 AM

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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:38:08 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:
On Saturday, May 26th, 2012, at 13:09:48h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

We are actually at war with Pakistan.


And Pakistan really, really, really does have weapons
of mass destruction.

And the man who helped the CIA in tracking down Bin Laden's
location has just been sentenced to 33 years behind bars for
providing the information.


and the CIA caused the Russian plane crash in Indonesia, were
responsible for recent Russian rocket failures and all Russian
submarine disasters.

Nope, it was the US Navy that caused the Kursk to sink

Steve Terry
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Steve Terry[_2_] May 28th 12 05:01 AM

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Mark Carver wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Martin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
EBU and Azerbaijan.


The EBU member broadcasters contribute to EBU funds. I understand
this is roughly in accordance with each country's population size.


It's heavily sponsored too, though all of that is hacked and blanked
out of the programme for UK consumption by the Beeb.

Despite the proportionately larger contribution the BBC pay
(mentioned by another poster) it still remains an incredibly cough
cost effective way for the Beeb to fill three hours of peak time BBC
1. Per min, it's probably cheaper than Frozen Planet, Hustle, Strictly
Come Dancing, etc.

I'd rather watch three hours of Strictly Come Dancing repeats,
with the juice of jalapeño peppers squeezed into my eyes

Steve Terry
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Steve Terry[_2_] May 28th 12 05:03 AM

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Mark Carver wrote:
Scott wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


He stepped down.

To spend more time with his money

Steve Terry
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Ian May 28th 12 12:48 PM

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In message , Steve Terry
writes
Mark Carver wrote:
Scott wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David

(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


He stepped down.

To spend more time with his money

Steve Terry


Was he pushed, or did he have a bit of a fall?
--
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J G Miller[_4_] May 28th 12 01:37 PM

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On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.


Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

Peter Duncanson May 28th 12 01:41 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2012 09:14:07 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:31:40 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24:14 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

On 25/05/2012 20:44, David wrote:
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David

From an old FoI:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805
2010 £283,190

Cheap TV! even including artiste fees, studio, lines/sat, etc

Richard


I spent the time trying to guess which visual elements were real and
which where virtual.

I decided that the water fountain was fake, but was proved wrong when
Jedward got its hair wet.


Are you saying that Jedward are real?

They are. Unfortunately, some would say, Jedward are not a CGI creation
that can be switched off when not needed.


The Irish score reporter had trouble with her vertical hold, and being
the final score it keeps being repeated on the news with the genlock
problem.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson May 28th 12 01:54 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.


Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?


Yes.

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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)


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